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I feel like every few years the Mantis rumor comes up and we go into details on why you can't just swap trains - as the ride is designed based on the rider's heart location - going from standing to sitting position may (and would) change some forces.

 

As for attendance - the crowds of been more spread out hence why the "feel" of less crowds. Cedar Point has had roughly the same attendance for the past 20+ years (highest attended year was 1994) but back then the park closed around Labor Day. The park has slowly extended operating season and with their Halloween event growing in quality the crowd shifts to the fall. Same attendance numbers & longer seasons means crowds are more spread out. Whereas Saturdays in July used to be the busiest days of the season now it is Saturdays in October (if weather is nice).

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So it would appear that Jason McClure gave a little teaser as to what next year's new ride is going to be:

 

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Do you think this would rule out the Dark Ride thing? Considering those are made more for families if I understand correctly (please correct me if I'm wrong). And I also don't really think a Dark Ride would be aimed towards "thrillsters" but again, I could be wrong. If I were to take a guess, I'd say its something along the lines of MaXair or SkyHawk. Both pretty awesome, huge thrill rides that offer great views, lots o' airtime, and they look stunning! (Especially when both arms work )

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For the love of the Intamin Gods, please do SOMETHING with ma' Mean Streak. It deserves some lovin'

 

Now I'm going to take this with a grain of salt for now. I hope it's a water-coaster/slide for Soak City. That place could really use some newer attractions.

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So it would appear that Jason McClure gave a little teaser as to what next year's new ride is going to be:

 

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Do you think this would rule out the Dark Ride thing? Considering those are made more for families if I understand correctly (please correct me if I'm wrong). And I also don't really think a Dark Ride would be aimed towards "thrillsters" but again, I could be wrong. If I were to take a guess, I'd say its something along the lines of MaXair or SkyHawk. Both pretty awesome, huge thrill rides that offer great views, lots o' airtime, and they look stunning! (Especially when both arms work )

 

Can you give me the link?

 

What about a HUSS Top Spin?

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Yay!!! NO more Mean Streak in 2016. Hopefully. Please do NOT RMC Hybrid this coaster. Just put in an insane RMC woodie. I'm gonna have a marathon riding session next year on Mean Streak.

 

 

Can we please put a stop to all these "I heard an employee say" rumor mill things? This is coming from someone who worked at the park, we only get similar rumors that the general public gets. The only insider information you'll ever get is from someone higher up in the chain. So unless the person you talked to was in a suit and manages the park itself, odds are there is little truth to any of these rumors. And I assure you, there are very few entry level employees that get the chance to talk to the higher ups about new additions to the park. Those that do usually know better than to open their mouth about anything they are told.

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Well, it could still be that WMG style dark ride. Who remembers that Cedar fair trademark? Rougarou. Aka werewolf. I'd say a scary style fun dark ride where you're shooting werewolves would be teen oriented. It's be like curse of Darkastle but a coaster and you shoot the monsters!

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Cedar Point's new ride in 2015 will be thrill ride aimed at teens and other hard core thrillsters, rather than a family-oriented ride, said Jason McClure, the park's general manager.

 

I could be wrong, but it sounds like a new coaster to me. I guess it could be a dark ride. However, the park GM is making it seem like it will be a kick-butt ride, and on the matter of dark rides, Disney and Universal are really the only ones that make truly kick-butt dark rides in my opinion.

 

Regardless of if their next coaster is coming next year, or later on, it really should be a quality wooden coaster (something from RMC or GCI). If it's an RMC, I think Mean Streak should go to the junkyard and be replaced by a brand new woodie. I don't understand why most enthusiasts are dying for it to be Iron Horsed because the layout looks boring to me: it's seems like just a bunch of slightly-banked turns with only a few opportunities for airtime.

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Cedar Point's new ride in 2015 will be thrill ride aimed at teens and other hard core thrillsters, rather than a family-oriented ride, said Jason McClure, the park's general manager.

 

I could be wrong, but it sounds like a new coaster to me. I guess it could be a dark ride. However, the park GM is making it seem like it will be a kick-butt ride, and on the matter of dark rides, Disney and Universal are really the only ones that make truly kick-butt dark rides in my opinion.

 

Regardless of if their next coaster is coming next year, or later on, it really should be a quality wooden coaster (something from RMC or GCI). If it's an RMC, I think Mean Streak should go to the junkyard and be replaced by a brand new woodie. I don't understand why most enthusiasts are dying for it to be Iron Horsed because the layout looks boring to me: it's seems like just a bunch of slightly-banked turns with only a few opportunities for airtime.

 

Thing about having those turns undulate up and down in a banked turn with bunny hops. Or a double up on the overbank.

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Cedar Point's new ride in 2015 will be thrill ride aimed at teens and other hard core thrillsters, rather than a family-oriented ride, said Jason McClure, the park's general manager.

 

I could be wrong, but it sounds like a new coaster to me. I guess it could be a dark ride. However, the park GM is making it seem like it will be a kick-butt ride, and on the matter of dark rides, Disney and Universal are really the only ones that make truly kick-butt dark rides in my opinion.

 

Regardless of if their next coaster is coming next year, or later on, it really should be a quality wooden coaster (something from RMC or GCI). If it's an RMC, I think Mean Streak should go to the junkyard and be replaced by a brand new woodie. I don't understand why most enthusiasts are dying for it to be Iron Horsed because the layout looks boring to me: it's seems like just a bunch of slightly-banked turns with only a few opportunities for airtime.

 

Thing about having those turns undulate up and down in a banked turn with bunny hops. Or a double up on the overbank.

Keep in mind that Mean Streak is a nearly mirrored clone of the Texas Giant. There certainly are possibilities in terms of making the layout interesting. However, I would prefer a ground up RMC wooden coaster over an I-box conversion.

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Thing about having those turns undulate up and down in a banked turn with bunny hops. Or a double up on the overbank.

I guess you're right that they could Iron Horse it in that way, but I personally would rather have a new RMC built from scratch because they'd have a lot more freedom to get creative with it.

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If a new coaster is coming for 2015 it will not be a redux of Mean Streak. Unless they demolish it now, they wouldnt be done by next season considering how huge Mean Streak is, and if they did have plans to redo Mean Streak, they would have announced its closure by now a la Colossus. I see this being a flat ride of some sort, considering that:

 

1. Gatekeeper just opened last season and still has a bit of new ride buzz with the GP

2. The Hotel Breakers renovation is a major project in and of itself spanning this entire season

3. Theres little room for a new roller coaster, yet no rumblings of any ride closures or removals

 

This is just speculation on my part, though, and I would love to be proven wrong. If any park is going to surprise us, its Cedar Point.

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So it would appear that Jason McClure gave a little teaser as to what next year's new ride is going to be:

 

[attachment=0]kjhfkifiy.JPG[/attachment]

 

Do you think this would rule out the Dark Ride thing? Considering those are made more for families if I understand correctly (please correct me if I'm wrong). And I also don't really think a Dark Ride would be aimed towards "thrillsters" but again, I could be wrong. If I were to take a guess, I'd say its something along the lines of MaXair or SkyHawk. Both pretty awesome, huge thrill rides that offer great views, lots o' airtime, and they look stunning! (Especially when both arms work )

 

 

To place my thoughts into this 2015 debate. As much as I would like to see a new amazing roller coaster that breaks all records or offers something very special. I have to think the way that the article was worded would point to something big but not a large scale coaster. Maybe a small foot print or a state of the art dark ride. When they used the word teenagers that took it away from the large coaster factor for me. Just my thought. I would like to see something special and unique.

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Regarding attendance

I go to the park a lot and attendance is way down this year compared to last. I'm sure weather and lack of a major new coaster are part of the reason. I think Fastlane is also playing a role. When you have up to 50 percent of your ride capacity going to fastlane users it has to have some effect on how enjoyable the day is for everyone else. I think they got a little to greedy with it. I think a lot of people who had to wait 2 to 3 hours for a single ride simply aren't coming back this year. Had they kept it to a level similar to the first year of fastlane they would have been much better off.

 

Note: I am not a fastlane hater, I use it a lot

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Am I correct in understanding that if you don't have Fastlane you could be in for long waits? I have platinum passes so we will at least get in the hour early but being this is our honeymoon we do not have the money to purchase Fastlane, we are going the end of the month on a Sunday and Monday and were hoping to be able to get in everything we want if planned accordingly.

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Well, it could still be that WMG style dark ride. Who remembers that Cedar fair trademark? Rougarou. Aka werewolf. I'd say a scary style fun dark ride where you're shooting werewolves would be teen oriented. It's be like curse of Darkastle but a coaster and you shoot the monsters!

 

So you saying shooting at werewolves is something teens will enjoy.

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Thing about having those turns undulate up and down in a banked turn with bunny hops. Or a double up on the overbank.

I guess you're right that they could Iron Horse it in that way, but I personally would rather have a new RMC built from scratch because they'd have a lot more freedom to get creative with it.

 

Contradiction? You can get much more creative when being limited by what's already there instead of having a blank canvas to work from. Plus it would be a lot cheaper to just give it the RMC treatment rather than to demolish and start from scratch.

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For the low attendance, I think we can also blame how awful Detroit is right now, I don't see nearly as many Michigan license plates in the parking lot as I used to.

 

I live outside Detroit and why does Detroit being awful have to do with Cedar Point attendance?

 

He's clearly referencing the economic problems.

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