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I've never heard of any issues regarding weapons and safety at CP, hence why they don't have metal detectors. I honestly think it sends the wrong message to the people visiting the park when the first thing they have to do is go through a metal detector and bag checks.

 

I've never heard anyone say anything like that for any park, why would anyone object to something that would be there to make them safer? There are people who carry around weapons, and while I'm not saying park violence is a common thing, I'd rather wait an extra minute or two to know no one has any sort of weapon. And just because they haven't had any issues doesn't mean they don't need them. Don't wait until something happens to install them, install them right away so nothing ever will happen.

 

Believe me, with the time I've spent in and around parks in my time, I've heard plenty of people comment saying "this is confidence inspiring" when the first thing they do is go through metal detectors and pat downs. And like I said, the extra staffing and cost of that infrastructure has got to be absurdly high. There are parks all over the place that have no bag checks/metal detectors at the front gate and remain perfectly safe.

 

Just because one or two morons act like idiots doesn't mean the park should have to spend tons of extra money and man power in response to it. Punish those who do it rather than inconveniencing your company and future guests. I could go into a whole rant about how our country is too damn scared of the boogeyman (thanks to the fear mongering media), but I'll spare that one for another day.

 

Steve, I've got to disagree with you on this one. If nothing else because of the number of guests entering Cedar Point, they need some type of screening. Your comment of "because of one or two idiots," look at airports these days and what has and will continue to be spent on security.

Why don't they install metal detectors. They are indispensable security systems.

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It would be a complete waste of money in both infrastructure and manpower, If someone wanted to get weaponry into the park it would be as easy as passing a bag containing same through any section of the publicly accessible part of the perimeter fence. The park has the benefit of having on site police which act as a major deterrent to any appreciable violent crime up to a active shooter situation.

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Raptor (Craptor) was running 2 trains, and was a one train wait. It was giving good rides, but was very sluggish due to the weather. The MCBR did not grab the trains. Neither while I was riding, or walking past, I didn't hear the MCBR grab the trains. It still sounds like the station's tire kickers are going to fall off.

 

Do you just call it Craptor because you don't like how it sounds when the trains dispatch? That's pretty lame if that's so, I've heard you talk about that a lot versus the ride itself. I think it runs just as well as Top Gun/Afterburn at Carowinds in my opinion.

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I noticed on Saturday one of the kickers on the transfer track didn't spin under its own power when the others did, but it would spin freely as a train passed through it, though, so it wasn't seized. I didn't ride Raptor Friday night. There was a pretty strong head wind (which gave me a TTD rollback!!) on Friday, I'm not surprised at all that Raptor was running a bit sluggish. I did ride Saturday, and it was running great! I always forget how good it is, it's my 2nd favorite invert behind Montu.

 

Despite the malfunctioning kicker, in my opinion Raptor didn't sound any different than SFGAm's Batman sounded when I rode it 2 months ago, they sounded exactly the same to me.

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Who cares about the tire kickers? They don't have any effect on the ride experience, your park experience or really anything at all. If the ride is open and functioning, why would anyone care if a few tires aren't working. Batman at Great Adventure has had some tires not working and the world didn't end.

 

Raptor is an outstanding coaster, we rode it 5 or 6 times over labor day weekend and I didn't notice anything wrong with the tire kickers, probably because I wasn't paying attention to them because... who cares?

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^I never said I did care. The ONLY reason I looked at the tire kickers on Saturday is because of this thread, had it not been brought of that it was supposedly noisy I would've never looked at them at all. As I said in my last post, I thought Raptor ran great, and I didn't think it made any more noise than any other B&M invert.

 

I always forget how forceful parts of Raptor are, my only complaint is that parts of it could use a paint job, but it's no big deal, since it runs just fine!

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As they always say: Don't fix whats not broken! I love the Raptor. that being said, I could do without the Mantis. Kinda painful on the legs if you don't stand the right way IMO. When I was on raptor this year, I forgot to put my phone in the pocket that had a zipper, and I didnt realize until we were about to descend the first hill... Scary experience but even with that, It was a great ride. I love the roar that thing has. Mantis has a nice loud roar too. Is it bad to like the B&M roar?

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I have to agree, Raptor is a great, forceful old school B&M invert, but it was snappy when I rode, and jerked my head a lot, way more than any other B&M that I've been on.

 

I suggest riding it in the front, and leaning your head forward on the cobra roll and the last turn. I know the old line about how you shouldn't have to ride the coaster a certain way to enjoy it and all that but it eliminates any minor headbanging (and it really is minor) that might occur.

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I have to agree, Raptor is a great, forceful old school B&M invert, but it was snappy when I rode, and jerked my head a lot, way more than any other B&M that I've been on.

Oh, that's a bit weird. When I went to CP for two consecutive days I rode raptor loads of times and (apart from a slight jerk in the cobra roll and a not so small one in the end) it was silky smooth. No sort of headbanging whatsoever. What made the ride even better was that, for most of the first day, the MCBR was not braking the ride at all which made it even better!

Maybe I just caught it in two good days, though.

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Thanks for posting the video. I wish it was an hour long; I find the behind the scenes stuff fascinating. And I'd forgotten about that damn song! Interesting to see how much work goes into running a ride like Dragster. Last time I was at Cedar Point it didn't break down at all until 10 p.m. The crew then ran the ride in some kind of manual/slow mode that didn't launch trains as frequently so it would stay up. Another example of Cedar Point's great customer service. Some parks would have closed it down and called it a night.

 

 

And Raptor is perfect, final "Vekoma turn" and all.

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Last time I was at Cedar Point it didn't break down at all until 10 p.m. The crew then ran the ride in some kind of manual/slow mode that didn't launch trains as frequently so it would stay up. Another example of Cedar Point's great customer service. Some parks would have closed it down and called it a night.
I agree. I got there at night and was trying to ride Millennium Force right before the park closed and it broke down about 30 minutes before closing. At a lot of places they would have just shut it down but the MF crew got it back up and running and cycled it and got us on the ride just in time, I was very grateful.
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Hey all, I was wondering what sort of crowd I should expect in the park for a Saturday during Halloweekends. I've always gone on Sundays in the past-usually quite dead-and I'm trying to decide if I should pony up for the Fast Lane Plus in advance. Thanks for your help!

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Hey all, I was wondering what sort of crowd I should expect in the park for a Saturday during Halloweekends. I've always gone on Sundays in the past-usually quite dead-and I'm trying to decide if I should pony up for the Fast Lane Plus in advance. Thanks for your help!

 

Definitely, definitely buy the Fast Lane Plus if you want to ride all of the coasters without waiting in hellacious lines...this is a no-brainer for a Saturday!!!

 

We have gotten in the habit of just skipping the park altogether on Saturday's when we go now. During the past couple of years, we have either gone golfing or taken the ferry to Put-In Bay and just gone to the park on Friday night (and sometimes Sunday for a few hours if we feel up to it). Then again, we have been to the park a lot and are within four hours so it is no big deal for us to skip the park on it's most crowded days.

 

Every time we have stayed at Camper Village or the Breakers for Halloweekends, the parking lot has been completely full on Saturday, with this year being no exception.

 

Below is a photo I took from the Space Spiral back in '09 on one of the last times we ever paid to enter the park on a Saturday during Halloweekends. I think the Space Spiral was one of about five rides we rode the entire day because of the long lines.

 

For the gentleman wanting to know about Columbus Day Sunday, I cannot comment as I have never visited during that time. If the weather is good, I would say that the park might be more crowded than a typical Sunday because of Monday's closings. If you want to be safe, I would spring for FL or you could risk waiting in long lines for the major coasters.

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