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P. 2017: Top Thrill Dragster RETIRED!?!?!?

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The bottom half is concrete and the top half is steel. But I would imagine in order to achieve the look Cedar Point wanted to go for, steel was the only way to go so it was able to look good and support the coaster. I'm sure it won't rust that bad. Look at all the other coaster around Cedar Point, are they badly rusted? No. And they use the same steel, I'm sure, that is going into this keyhole tower.

 

Even if it does start to rust, they can just repaint it.

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It's odd that they are made out of steel however. I'd imagine that they woul rust or just not look great. I was expecting them to be concrete.

Steel doesnt rust if its painted and kept well

I too thought the keyholes would be concrete but steel works too

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At first I thought the keyholes would be concrete too. After seeing steel, it makes more sense. The higher in the air concrete structures get, the more unstable it becomes. With the trains vibrations and Sandusky's weather, cracking would come sooner than later. Either way CP will make sure it is done right and I am looking forward to it. Still can't believe their last big addition was Maverick in 2007 (Shoot the Rapids doesn't count). The off season and my 9 hour drive there will be the most anxious ever!

 

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At first I thought the keyholes would be concrete too. After seeing steel, it makes more sense. The higher in the air concrete structures get, the more unstable it becomes. With the trains vibrations and Sandusky's weather, cracking would come sooner than later. Either way CP will make sure it is done right and I am looking forward to it. Still can't believe their last big addition was Maverick in 2007 (Shoot the Rapids doesn't count). The off season and my 9 hour drive there will be the most anxious ever!

 

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After dragster in 2003 ($25M), which was a disaster(financially). And then another big $21M dollar investment (Maverick), plus the state of the economy afterwards. It makes sense it took this long for their next big coaster.

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Who's to say Cedar Point hasn't invested in anything since 2007? The park as a whole has gone through so many improvements in those years, it's crazy! Luminosity, Windseeker, Planet Snoopy, new light package on several rides and throughout the whole park, Shoot The Rapids, new paint on Millennium Force, Dinosaurs...that's all I can think of off the top of my head. Just because a new coaster isn't revealed doesn't mean the park isn't putting millions of dollars into the park's well being.

 

Plus, who's to say Top Thrill Dragster was a financial disaster? As far as I know, it is easily the most photographed/filmed roller coaster in the world. The only other coaster that's more popular in the park than TTD is Millennium...(with the exception of Raptor on some days). Just because you don't personally like a roller coaster doesn't mean it was a financial disaster...

 

Hope those key holes are big enough, wouldn't that be a kick in the shorts if they come up a bit small

Somehow I knew when the picture arose this would come up...

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Still can't believe their last big addition was Maverick in 2007 (Shoot the Rapids doesn't count).

Shoot the Rapids cost about the same as Raptor. I'd say that's a pretty decent sized investment!

 

It most definitely was a big investment and a nice addition to the park after White Water Landing was removed. I asked some roller coaster friends and "GP" friends (20 people) if they would specifically go to CP just for Shoot the Rapids and they said no. They do not represent the entire population but if they would pass on a semi thrilling ride on their trip, good chances so will the GP. STR is a great family ride and water ride when it is hot. I'm not saying it is an unpopular ride, what I meant was it didn't draw super huge crowds to the park from season open to close.

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Who's to say Cedar Point hasn't invested in anything since 2007? The park as a whole has gone through so many improvements in those years, it's crazy! Luminosity, Windseeker, Planet Snoopy, new light package on several rides and throughout the whole park, Shoot The Rapids, new paint on Millennium Force, Dinosaurs...that's all I can think of off the top of my head. Just because a new coaster isn't revealed doesn't mean the park isn't putting millions of dollars into the park's well being.

 

Don't get me wrong, I love Cedar Point as much as one could love an object. I should have specified it as a "super huge crowd drawing addition". CP has done some very nice additions to the overall family fun atmosphere. I can't get mad at CP. My home park is SFGAd and I wish they could be as awesome as Cedar Fair and CP. To me, I feel Cedar Fair does things simple and does things right but I could be biased because of working at SFGAd for 9 seasons. I agree with you that CP has kept up with the parks well being and I should have clarified my first post more specifically. Out of all the changes you mentioned, painting Millennium Force was my favorite!

 

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It most definitely was a big investment and a nice addition to the park after White Water Landing was removed. I asked some roller coaster friends and "GP" friends (20 people) if they would specifically go to CP just for Shoot the Rapids and they said no. They do not represent the entire population but if they would pass on a semi thrilling ride on their trip, good chances so will the GP. STR is a great family ride and water ride when it is hot. I'm not saying it is an unpopular ride, what I meant was it didn't draw super huge crowds to the park from season open to close.

Not every yearly addition needs to be a "destination" attraction. CP has done a pretty fantastic job diversifying their ride and attraction collection in the last 10 years so they aren't just known as a "coaster park."

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It most definitely was a big investment and a nice addition to the park after White Water Landing was removed. I asked some roller coaster friends and "GP" friends (20 people) if they would specifically go to CP just for Shoot the Rapids and they said no. They do not represent the entire population but if they would pass on a semi thrilling ride on their trip, good chances so will the GP. STR is a great family ride and water ride when it is hot. I'm not saying it is an unpopular ride, what I meant was it didn't draw super huge crowds to the park from season open to close.

Not every yearly addition needs to be a "destination" attraction. CP has done a pretty fantastic job diversifying their ride and attraction collection in the last 10 years so they aren't just known as a "coaster park."

 

I agreed CP has done a very nice job with family fun in the previous post, so I will agree again. I would assume family fun to others would mean rides all ages can enjoy (coasters and flats), fun shows, fun exhibits, family eateries, and friendly themeing. If I had a family, Cedar Point would be a top place to visit every year because of the fun I know I'm guaranteed to have. Personally, I am super interested and excited to see how their hotel renovations go. I usually stay at Hotel Breakers despite the outdated rooms and amenities.

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Still can't believe their last big addition was Maverick in 2007 (Shoot the Rapids doesn't count).

Shoot the Rapids cost about the same as Raptor. I'd say that's a pretty decent sized investment!

 

It most definitely was a big investment and a nice addition to the park after White Water Landing was removed. I asked some roller coaster friends and "GP" friends (20 people) if they would specifically go to CP just for Shoot the Rapids and they said no. They do not represent the entire population but if they would pass on a semi thrilling ride on their trip, good chances so will the GP. STR is a great family ride and water ride when it is hot. I'm not saying it is an unpopular ride, what I meant was it didn't draw super huge crowds to the park from season open to close.

 

So why didn't you say, "Still can't believe their last big COASTER was Maverick in 2007"?

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Still can't believe their last big addition was Maverick in 2007 (Shoot the Rapids doesn't count).

Shoot the Rapids cost about the same as Raptor. I'd say that's a pretty decent sized investment!

 

While that may be true, that's not exactly a good way of comparing the cost of something. If built the same year as Shoot the Rapids, Raptor would have cost upwards of 25 million dollars. Just because it was the same price back in 1994, doesn't mean anything really. If Shoot the Rapids was built in 1994, it would have only cost 5-7 million dollars based on the value of the dollar back then (not to say 5-7 is cheap by any means). So if you're going to compare the worth of two attractions, you should probably use two that weren't built 16 years apart from one another. The value of the dollar has changed quite a bit since the early 90's.

 

I still completely agree with what you're saying that both investments were very large, but saying Shoot the Rapids was as big of an investment as Raptor is just silly. If both attractions were built during the same time period, Raptor would cost twice as much as Shoot the Rapids theoretically.

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Still can't believe their last big addition was Maverick in 2007 (Shoot the Rapids doesn't count).

Shoot the Rapids cost about the same as Raptor. I'd say that's a pretty decent sized investment!

 

It most definitely was a big investment and a nice addition to the park after White Water Landing was removed. I asked some roller coaster friends and "GP" friends (20 people) if they would specifically go to CP just for Shoot the Rapids and they said no. They do not represent the entire population but if they would pass on a semi thrilling ride on their trip, good chances so will the GP. STR is a great family ride and water ride when it is hot. I'm not saying it is an unpopular ride, what I meant was it didn't draw super huge crowds to the park from season open to close.

 

So why didn't you say, "Still can't believe their last big COASTER was Maverick in 2007"?

 

Touche my friend

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Plus, who's to say Top Thrill Dragster was a financial disaster? As far as I know, it is easily the most photographed/filmed roller coaster in the world. The only other coaster that's more popular in the park than TTD is Millennium...(with the exception of Raptor on some days). Just because you don't personally like a roller coaster doesn't mean it was a financial disaster...

 

"Disaster Transport and Top Thrill Dragster were probably the two worst investments I've ever made"

Dick Kinzel.

 

Also, Dragster is my 2nd Favorite ride at the park.....

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"Disaster Transport and Top Thrill Dragster were probably the two worst investments I've ever made"

Dick Kinzel.

 

Out of curiosity, when did he say this? Was it when the ride was suffering from daily breakdowns or was it a few years later when the ride was only breaking down every other day?

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From that interview, he never made it out to be a financial disaster...it just wasn't as profitable as Magnum and Millennium.

 

Let me rephrase, "The worst (business) decision we ever mad was putting that (Dragster) coaster in".

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