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Check out this amazing photo compliments of Dave Morgan!! 

I feel bad because this is all I post about lately but no... if a park has the ability to open and there's demand and they choose to stay closed then they're dumb. Period. Be creative and figure it ou

Did they happen to mention how heavy that train is?

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^ It was $10 million to redo NTAG and Mean Streak pretty much has the same layout as OTAG, so I can't see costing too much more then that.

Well, it's nice to hear some numbers. If CP were to do the Iron horse, how would they make it significantly different from TNTAG? They'd probably throw some inversions in there somewhere, hopefully a heartline

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^ It was $10 million to redo NTAG and Mean Streak pretty much has the same layout as OTAG, so I can't see costing too much more then that.

Well, it's nice to hear some numbers. If CP were to do the Iron horse, how would they make it significantly different from TNTAG? They'd probably throw some inversions in there somewhere, hopefully a heartline

 

OTAG & Mean Streak have similar, but different layouts. I'm sure that Iron Horse Mean Streak's layout would be very different from NTAG.

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Having first rode Mean Streak this year (gasp! I know and I've been going to CP since 2005) I actually kind of liked the ride. Way smoother than I thought it was going to be, rode it multiple times, in all sorts of conditions, in different seats. If they were to do anything to it, I'd say reconfigure the last 1/2 of the layout after the MCBR. Kind of boring and not too many laterals. The PTCs on it though need some more TLC as in replace the headrests with a softer material and get rid of that rigid foam that they use for cushions. Much prefer what they used on Shivering Timbers PTCs, feels like I'm sitting on a comfy couch with those cushions.

 

I know a lot of retracking and adding supports to certain areas on Mean Streak, having being closed the past 2 years during Halloweekends to do so and it finally staying open for the whole year with all 3 trains. And with Cedar Fair putting a ton of money into it, I don't see a complete overhaul of anything happening to that anytime soon besides the general track replacement.

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Having first rode Mean Streak this year (gasp! I know and I've been going to CP since 2005) I actually kind of liked the ride. Way smoother than I thought it was going to be, rode it multiple times, in all sorts of conditions, in different seats.

 

People on discussion boards tend to over-exaggerate just a little bit when it comes to how rough a coaster is. I first rode Mean Streak in 2001, and thanks to the discussion boards, the feeling that I had while boarding the train probably wan't too far off from the feeling an inmate on death row has as they take their seat on an electric chair. It wasn't a smooth ride by any means, but it was tolerable. The way people speak of it would have you thinking that everyone involved in the planning and construction of the ride ought to be in prison. The uninspired layout is a much bigger strike against Mean Streak IMO.

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People on discussion boards tend to over-exaggerate just a little bit when it comes to how rough a coaster is. I first rode Mean Streak in 2001, and thanks to the discussion boards, the feeling that I had while boarding the train probably wan't too far off from the feeling an inmate on death row has as they take their seat on an electric chair. It wasn't a smooth ride by any means, but it was tolerable. The way people speak of it would have you thinking that everyone involved in the planning and construction of the ride ought to be in prison. The uninspired layout is a much bigger strike against Mean Streak IMO.

 

Ha, yeah, I've been on my fair share of rough wooden coasters, and I was expecting it to be a lot worse, as I knew people on these tend to over exaggerate, but going down the first drop in the back car as my first ride on it actually was not bad, expected more of the PTC shake, but not bad. I still think red Racer this year tops it for most painful as I had a visible bruise on my arm from riding it this year. I don't know what was up with that this year as when I rode the blue side last year, wasn't that painful, nor did any of my friends who were in the red car last year said anything.

 

But yes, I do have to agree with you that the layout is weak on this one. I just think Summers ran out of ideas there towards the end when he designed it, but then again, he didn't have computer models and such to show what forces were going to be applied during operation, was all done by paper and pencil and his math formulas. I think if he was still alive today, he'd be shocked to see what wooden coasters are doing now, and what happened to his Texas Giant.

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Ah! The I305-Leviathan type lift truss!

 

It looks awesome so far, and the colors are much better than I expected. Two tone B&M track never looked so good!

Please educate me on what a lift truss is?

 

I see this coaster has the same color scheme as Blue Streak

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Please educate me on what a lift truss is?

 

The backbone of the track going up the lift - notice how it goes directly to the ground and sits on it's own concrete footing. X-Flight and I would think several other recent B&Ms have the same "truss going into the ground." I think Leviathan has it on both sides of the first hill; the base of the lift and on the drop...

 

I see this coaster has the same color scheme as Blue Streak

And Corkscrew. When I worked at the Point years ago, we would joke that at CP everything had to be either blue or "pretty" in some way. No black coasters (like Demon!) or anything too intimidating.

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I am surprised CP hasn't put in any Orange colors on some its major coasters. Orange (best of red and yellow) seems to looks great in other CF parks (Talon, Behemoth). Seems the lastest trend has been on the Blue/ Turquoise realm (Stinger, Invertigo, Leviathan, Gatekeeper).

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I don't care, as long as it's not Xcelerator colors. Really though, as long as it rides well I don't care what it looks like. I do wonder how some of these places decide the colors. They seem so random and odd. Still need to get on a wingrider one of these days!

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