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Excuse me?

 

Also if you look at STR it is ALOT more themed then what the POV shows. STR is the heaviest themed ride at CP right now...

 

Huh? It looks ridiculously close to the concept image. Some rockwork and a tunnel. Where's the other theming?

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Just got back from CP and something crazy happened to Mantis. At first it looked like it valleyed but after looking closer the front of the train is not even close to the bottom of the drop.2115310918_MantisStuck.jpg.746263d73e8a6170998a7fc13938b60a.jpg

The train is stopped close to the bottom of the MCBR drop.

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^^Are you sure they weren't in the process of hoisting it back up to the MCB? They could have even stopped for a break and just had the train strapped in that position. On the webcam this morning, it looked as if the train was indeed at the bottom of the drop and not where it is at in that picture.

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^^Well if they had it strapped to the track it could have been hard to see that. If they did it like I have seen done before, they just strap it to the spine just behind the train so there is a chance it wasn't visible. I do know though that the train was further down the track at the bottom earlier today.

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TALOCAN Clone!

 

I don't want to sound like a pathetic fanboy, but, a TopSpin would be a bit of a letdown considering they haven't gotten a new coaster since 2007. CP seems to be richly equipped when it comes to flatrides.

 

To late lol

 

I feel compelled to point out most of Cedar Points flats are very family orientated, while nothing wrong with that, there's only one that fully inverts (Chaos) one that basically does (Witches Wheel) and two that get your heels above your head, but not by much (Screamin Swing and MaxAir both at 120°) so something like a Top Spin would work very well for the park, and in my eyes is really needed.

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I think we should wait for the ride to at least open before anybody starts judging STR on how great the themeing or lack of themeing is. It does seem to be promising that there will be some surprises. From the crystal rock bottle company signs (and not just the ones on the station but the rustic steel signs all over the buildings around the ride) and the facades the pump houses received these are some promising signs the ride will have some good themeing elements to it. We don't know what (if anything) will all happen in the tunnel or on the island, but with the strong suggestions throughout construction that the storyline of the Camfield's vs. MaGee's will be continued, I think we can expect some sort of interactive element of the ride wether it be animatronics or themed water/spraying/exploding elements.

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Already the Paddlewheel Excursions spiel has been updated to describe a bit of the backstory, and there's even a new piece of themeing related to Shoot the Rapids added. I won't post the spoilers here, go and see it/hear it for yourself. I watched the ride test for a couple minutes and I'm actually impressed. I'm sure all of the water features weren't on yet, but the drops themselves don't look like they'll get you all that soaked as far as the splash goes. I also got to talk with a couple of the crew members, and they seem really excited about the season. I think Shoot the Rapids is going to be a really great thing for the park this year, despite so many people complaining about it.

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Huh? It looks ridiculously close to the concept image. Some rockwork and a tunnel. Where's the other theming?

 

I was there on opening day as well, the entire area of STR is very nice and in my opinion, very well themed.

 

It really does not matter, fault can always be found for something, which frequently happens for some reason when people discuss CP.

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Upon looking at the pix of STR and the surrounding area, I have two questions:

 

1) Why didn't they bridge over, or tunnel under the train tracks? I mean Mantis opened with a crossing and they took it out because it was a pain.

 

2) Why did they ever get ride of the captain uniforms from Paddle-Wheel?

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^^Well if they had it strapped to the track it could have been hard to see that. If they did it like I have seen done before, they just strap it to the spine just behind the train so there is a chance it wasn't visible. I do know though that the train was further down the track at the bottom earlier today.

Think about where it valleyed. The train is specifically designed to go through that part of the ride very slowly in case the MCBR stops the train. A normal valleying just doesn't seem logical in that spot.

 

^^1) Would you really want to be standing on a bridge when a coal powered train goes under you? Most people wouldn't want to be breathing in black smoke.

2) I have no idea why they got rid of those uniforms but they haven't used those in a long time (I think since 2004).

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Think about where it valleyed. The train is specifically designed to go through that part of the ride very slowly in case the MCBR stops the train. A normal valleying just doesn't seem logical in that spot

Like I said, it has been done there before, Ive seen it. Even with a full train of guests on a cold morning it just barely makes it through that corkscrew, were talking creeping speeds. It is no surprise to me at all that it stalled out there because of its slow speed after the MCB, especially since it had no guests and it was chilly.

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^I saw no difference. They replaced some seatbelts and lap bars on both MF and TTD and they looked the same to me. Doesn't this rumor get started anytime they replace worn out belts?

 

As for the 2011 rumors that will start going now, I love how everyone says it won't be a coaster because of what was said. Does anyone think this was said purposely? Their new for 2010 ride hasn't even opened yet so I highly doubt he would want to point out that its a coaster (if it is) and take some attention from what they are opening now.

 

I also got a kick out of the person who said earlier in this thread that "CP hasn't got a coaster since 2007" as if thats a long time ago! lol

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Think about where it valleyed. The train is specifically designed to go through that part of the ride very slowly in case the MCBR stops the train. A normal valleying just doesn't seem logical in that spot

Like I said, it has been done there before, Ive seen it. Even with a full train of guests on a cold morning it just barely makes it through that corkscrew, were talking creeping speeds. It is no surprise to me at all that it stalled out there because of its slow speed after the MCB, especially since it had no guests and it was chilly.

I guess the only way we will know is when it reopens. If it is open today, it was just a normal valley. If it opens later in the week, it was most likely something else.

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I also got a kick out of the person who said earlier in this thread that "CP hasn't got a coaster since 2007" as if thats a long time ago! lol

 

Raptor: 1994

Mantis: 1996

Woodstock Express: 1999

Millenium Force: 2000

Wicked Twister: 2002

Top Thrill Dragster: 2003

Maverick: 2007

 

I haven't said that four years is a long time. But look at that timeline: Usually, there hasn't been more than 3 years between the coasters (4 years between Dragster and Maverick).

 

I'm just pointing out that there's still a chance they may get a coaster next year. Next season, it'll be 4 years - even though I wouldn't mind them getting a flatride

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Ohio GP get very angry when CP goes more than two years without a new coaster. Yesterday I heard many people complaining that CP only got a "lame/stupid" new water ride this year that doesn't even work.

 

Exactly. I read that all the time, too.

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^Thats cool you were just pointing it out. It made me think of the people that expect one every other year or so. The park sure has boomed installing ones quite frequently thats for sure! I am hoping when they do add one, 2011 or not that its wood. That would help round off the collection a bit since they don't have a real good one there.

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Ohio GP get very angry when CP goes more than two years without a new coaster. Yesterday I heard many people complaining that CP only got a "lame/stupid" new water ride this year that doesn't even work.

Does anybody else see what's wrong with Cedar Point's reputation? They're known for their coasters and are known to add a brand new one every couple of years. Even though they have a bunch of flatrides and a kiddy section, Cedar Point is known as a thrill seeker's paradise. They added a new family log flume this year and parts of the general public are complaining. I think that Shoot the Rapids was a good investment, but until the general public understands and appreciates these non-coaster additions, I think that Cedar Point will be in trouble in the long run.

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