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Did they happen to mention how heavy that train is?

I feel bad because this is all I post about lately but no... if a park has the ability to open and there's demand and they choose to stay closed then they're dumb. Period. Be creative and figure it ou

So basically there were about as many rides open as there would be in peak season with 15 mph winds.

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To deal with the safety services shortfall, several residents and city employees proposed raising the admissions tax and using new grant money to rehire recently laid-off police and firefighters. Greg Hall, a deputy from the Erie County Sheriff's office, advocated a raise in the admissions tax during Monday's city commission meeting. He said the city will need the extra safety services once Cedar Point opens. "Summer months in the city of Sandusky -- and I've lived here most of my life -- are chaotic with all the tourists who come here," Hall said. "If we don't bring these police officers and fire back, it's going to be more chaotic." Hall also pointed out the admissions tax hasn't been raised since 1972 and said a small increase in ticket prices wouldn't deter tourists. "Understand this: Cedar Point will not be paying this tax. It's the tourists who visit that pay this tax," Hall said. "So we're not robbing Big Brother over here who takes care of our city. People are not going to stop (taking) their vacations for 25 cents. They're not going to stop vacationing for 50 cents."


For decades, Cedar Point officials have decried an admissions-tax increase as a "targeted tax" because the park provides more than 99 percent of the city's admissions-tax revenues. But last year, park officials said they would not object to a 0.25 percent increase in the admissions tax if residents approved a 0.25 percent increase in the income tax. The residents rejected the income tax, so the admissions tax stayed the same at 3 percent.


Last week, ex officio mayor Dan Kaman said he wouldn't support an increase in the admissions tax because Cedar Point already provides about one-fourth of the city's revenues. But some commissioners think it's the right thing to do.


Last year, commissioner Julie Farrar said she supported an admissions tax increase regardless of whether residents approved an income tax increase. Farrar said Cedar Point should think of the tax increase as an investment in Sandusky's future. "We have to, as a community, come together and take care of our citizens," she said last fall. Multiple residents also suggested using new grant money to temporarily rehire several police officers or firefighters. The city learned this week it will receive $325,825 in grant funds for extending its aggregation agreement with FirstEnergy Solutions. "I for one would like to see that $325,000 used for our No. 1 priority, safety services" said Rob Pfanner, a Sandusky resident, referencing a statement made last week by interim city manager Don Icsman. Pfanner said if the city hired two police officers and two firefighters through the summer, the grant money would be well spent. Kaman said that was a short-term solution, because the city couldn't pay the police officers or firefighters once the grant funds expire.


Other commissioners suggested using the $325,000 to invest in energy efficiency to save the city future expenses. Commissioner John Hamilton suggested putting it toward windmills. Others said it could fund upgrades to make Sandusky City Hall more energy-efficient now that the city no longer intends to build a new administration building.

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I still dont gather why the last drop is the smaller drop?

Because CP is going to market it as a coaster and coasters usually don't have a large last drop.


They'll probably call it the world's tallest water coaster, when it's not even that...I'm calling it now.

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So we're not robbing Big Brother over here who takes care of our city.


That is so incredibly true. Cedar Point is the only reason anyone goes to Sandusky. In fact, it's the only reason there is a Sandusky.

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Well actually the indoor waterparks bring in a lot of people too. They certainly don't hold the same position as CP when it comes to local decisons and influance in commerce though.

And if Cedar Point wasn't there, the indoor water parks wouldn't be either

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Word actually got leaked about STR among employees at the beginning of the 2008 season. It was actually originally planned to be built in 2009 as a replacement for SRF. However, both budgetary concerns and a change in plans bumped it back to 2010 and saved SRF. Word was from maintenance staff that SRF almost didn't get past inspection for the 2008 season and that's why they were going to tear it down, but instead they overhauled it the next off season so it could stay and then redesigned STR to go "around" it. In early 2008, we didn't know the exact details of STR, but we knew at that point it was going to be a flume that went on the island.

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