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Made my first visit this season on Sunday… Probably won’t break even on my Platinum Pass at this rate, haha, but what can you do. Thankfully my first visit of the year was absolutely beautiful.

 

My goal was simply to get a ride on Raptor and MF if nothing else. Weather was beautiful, so expected some hefty crowds. Arrived for early entry at 9am and the park was a ghost town practically until the time I left around 1pm. Hit up Maverick, Millennium Force, Valravn during early entry all walk-on and got to Raptor at 10am. Used to do early entry all the time and don’t even remember it so dead in the morning. So that was a pleasant surprise.

 

Raptor had the only wait all day (10min?) as the park just opened before we got there. Then Gatekeeper followed by Dragster, also both walk-on. Waited the 4 trains or so for front seat on Dragster, which is always a treat. Took a spin on Magnum and checked out Forbidden Frontier, Petting Zoo and some shops with a closing ride on the cable cars. By the time I left it was slightly more busy, but still wasn’t bad at all. Lot was maybe ½ full?

 

Steel Vengeance had about a 30 minute wait when I checked on it during early entry, but didn’t really care to ride it. Not sure how busy it got later on.

 

Park looked great though. Forbidden Frontier is nicely done but think the park needs some workers/actors to explain to those coming in what is going on, how to interact, etc… Also, wish it connected from the Gemini Midway to Frontier, versus being one way in/out of the area from Frontier Trail. Would be awesome to have that cut through the middle of the park.

 

One of those nice days though where you could have done every major coaster within a few hours if you so desired. Great visit.

 

 

I can assure you it didn't stay that light of a crowd on Sunday. All afternoon most big coasters were running 45 min + waits and SV was over an hour. Not sure at what point during early entry you checked on SV but my son and I were in line before the early entry people (we were in at 8 for an ACE event) and by the time they opened the line at 9 there was quite a crowd behind the 60 or so people that were let in at 8.

 

I do agree with you on FF. Definitely needs way more explanation.

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Did they happen to mention how heavy that train is?

OK these are freaking cool. https://cedarpointonlineshop.com/

Made it out to Cedar Point this past weekend, October 17th-18th with my mom and dad to visit my sister working at the park. My sister works at Dorney, but since they closed early, a bunch of full time

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Wow, lucked out on timing I suppose! Like I said, we used to go nearly every weekend for early entry and it was common for it to be busy quickly, especially by the time early entry ended. I guess SV just draws the masses, which is good for everything else!

 

We checked SV right at 9am or so, first ride we walked to and were in front of the masses. I wondered why it was so busy already at that ride, given we were there almost right away, but then found out about the ACE event. At that time, ride wasn't even cycling trains so we bounced to Maverick. I didn't want to waste all the early entry time on SV.

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SV definitely pulls almost all the early entry crowd. My Dad and I dubbed it the "running of the the SV bulls", lol. If you aren't that interested in it you can for sure take advantage to walk on the other early entry rides.

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]It's because it's technically beyond straight down for part of the first drop. Difficult to explain but there's a few feet of track that are inward from 90 degrees. Kind of a silly claim but it is what it is.

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Someone like me who constantly is revising, proofing and correcting documents, brochures, programs, posters and online marketing for a living. Thought some others may find it amusing.

 

sorry to be a bore *sarcasm*

 

If we're gonna get really pedantic, and apparently we are, incline only means there is some slope. It does not imply a direction. So the shirt is grammatically correct, even if awkwardly phrased.

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And out of all the other people I know, people are just not interested. I don't know if it is part of the downstate Illinois mentality or what. My step-mother berated me this spring and flat out said we were too old for roller coasters, which is funny because some of the people I have went with aren't even 30 yet. I've also heard others say we're too old. Maybe we are.

 

I live 20-30 minutes from St. Louis, but we're in Illinois. Technically you could call that central Illinois, despite being in the St. Louis Metropolitan area. I'll play devil's advocate here.

 

Most adults won't go out of their way to visit amusement parks and I really can't say I blame them after our last trip to SFGadv. I mostly saw two categories of people consisting of teenagers and families with young children. It's just starting to feel weird being in my mid 30's with no kids surrounded by these two groups. There's no doubt that we definitely don't fit in and I can really feel my wife losing interest in all this stuff. When we hit SFGadv and Canada's Wonderland last week we did so on a trip including Philadelphia, New York, and Toronto. Where as parks used to be the main focus of our trips, they're our secondary focus, anymore. Our more exciting personal interests have shifted toward local culture and sight seeing outside of parks. We get more out of it.

 

I do think that there is a difference between Six Flags parks and Cedar Fair parks. I feel less out of place at CF parks, since their atmosphere and appearance are generally much nicer. Adults don't want to spend their time surrounded faded paint and poorly maintained areas, which is why we see more people like us at SF parks. CF parks also usually include patios and other places to relax or enjoy a drink while taking in the scenery and people watching. CF parks seem to focus more on the atmosphere and less on the rides. It's a turnoff for me to queue up in a comic book themed ride while the park blares teen pop music. Aside from just throwing more bars into the mix, SF seems to do a lot less to appeal to adults. There's nothing wrong with their strategy. It works. It just doesn't really fit into our interests, anymore.

 

Most of my peers 'like' roller coasters. But, being so close to SFStl they don't know what a good park is. Also, our most modern ride is 20 years old. More than that, the focus of our peers is elsewhere. My friends are raising families and they don't have much spare time. Going to a place filled with rowdy teens and large crowds isn't appealing to them. Even the people our age without kids would much rather spend a relaxing evening having a couple drinks on their patios, going out somewhere nice for dinner, or if they're feeling adventurous, going to a baseball or hockey game.

 

Doing what you're familiar with is relaxing, because you know what to expect. When our peers travel, they go to the beach where it's much more relaxing. All inclusive resort's are very popular destinations around here. Why? Because occupations and other obligations consume our lives to where when we have free time a lot of us need relief, not an adventure.

 

Emily and I will still visit parks, but aside from spending a couple hours during the evening every once in a while at SFStl, or making a half day trip to SFGam with our favorite pizza and lounging at the hotel being 50% of our priority, we're going to kind of distancing ourselves SF parks after SFGadv. Parks like CP are different, but the majority of their advertisements still place emphasis on families with young children. That's their focus. Mid 30 years olds are not their market. My wife and I at the turning point now, where we're ready to start taking the steps to make that our focus, too. Her and I visiting parks alone is starting to get redundant, even when we visit new parks.

 

There's nothing wrong with visiting parks as an adult. But, don't expect any more than a few exceptions of mature adults to share the same enthusiasm. We're hobbyists and this is a specific interest.

 

Think of it as model building. MORE kids are into model building than adults. It doesn't make it unacceptable for adults to be into the hobby. But, don't expect more adults to want to build models with you. They've outgrown it.

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^ I am in your age group. Did you guys want to have kids? When you start going to parks with your little kids you will get so much enjoyment out of it. Seeing them smile and laugh

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^^Well said. I have a couple friends who are willing to go with me to parks out of town, but almost always as part of a trip where theres at least something else going on. I'll often package a park and a concert together. People in their 30s, for the most part, aren't interested in driving 3 hours or more just to ride coasters. CP is the one exception I've gotten people to make just for a park. If I try and get someone to just go to Kentucky Kingdom or something...it probably just isnt going to happen.

 

Fortunately one if my good childhood friends married a girl with a 12 year old daughter and 6 year old son and they have gotten into going to parks, so I've hit a couple parks with them. But as an adult, it can be an uphill battle, and you have to play to your audience if you're going to expect someone to drive for hours to go to a park. At least include other stuff in the trip, and if you can find a significant other that doesnt mind going with you to parks, that's the best option...you do their stuff and they do yours. It doesnt have to be their favorite thing in the world, but if they are happy to share it with you, that's enough for them to go out of their way with you to have a good time together.

 

-a single 36 year old semi enthusiast

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You seem to be the only one upset, dude. This site might not be for you if you’re so sensitive.

 

If a guy is kicking the back of your airplane seat, you don't get kicked off the plane for being "so sensitive" and "the only one upset."

 

Instead of suggesting that people leave and have weak character for wanting to get nerdy on a nerdy site, a better alternative is that people could tone down the "who cares?" routine and simply engage in the posts that interest them while leaving other ones alone. A sense of humor isn't about shutting someone down when we're all big ol' nerds.

 

We've got posts about Skycoaster operations, rattles, wheel gaps, bad transitions, Corkscrew running three trains, park beer, how to take bullet trains to parks, and g-force apps -- so who cares if someone wants to talk about a t-shirt or anything else? No one has room to be too cool for school here.

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If a guy is kicking the back of your airplane seat, you don't get kicked off the plane for being "so sensitive" and "the only one upset."

 

Instead of suggesting that people leave and have weak character for wanting to get nerdy on a nerdy site, a better alternative is that people could tone down the "who cares?" routine and simply engage in the posts that interest them while leaving other ones alone. A sense of humor isn't about shutting someone down when we're all big ol' nerds.

 

We've got posts about Skycoaster operations, rattles, wheel gaps, bad transitions, Corkscrew running three trains, park beer, how to take bullet trains to parks, and g-force apps -- so who cares if someone wants to talk about a t-shirt or anything else? No one has room to be too cool for school here.

 

Dilly Dilly.

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^ I am in your age group. Did you guys want to have kids? When you start going to parks with your little kids you will get so much enjoyment out of it. Seeing them smile and laugh

We don't have any kids, but actually we're going to start trying for our one-and-done child next month. There's no better time to start than while we're in Hawaii! We talk about how fun it will be to take our kid to parks and watch the transition from kiddie rides to riding a first big coaster. We're ready to move on to the next chapter. It will also feel a little less awkward in parks when we have a child with us...

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