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Went to the park the last few days, and I'm slightly baffled/annoyed. Got on many great rides, Steel Vengeance was awesome.

 

However both days Gatekeeper & Raptor were closed the entire day due to winds, even though the wind directions were different both days.

-What irked me more, today Gatekeeper was running before the park opened at 10, but the attendant told us it closed as soon as the park opened. At 8pm on closing, they reopened it on the way out. Confused why they'd open it post closing, I asked the info desk what was up, and they said the individual ride operator decided at opening it wasn't safe, but decided it was again right before closing, but could only take premium tickets due to the late hour (the winds had died down for hours).

 

Is this a common occurrence, where they just close this ride and reopen for "premium", because it's obviously capable of running safely if they were later, and it seems very coincidental that winds were unacceptable just for the hours the park is open. Maybe they were short-staffed and just wouldn't admit it, but I'm upset as I travelled a long way and have never ridden a wing coaster (unless X2 counts).

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Went to the park the last few days, and I'm slightly baffled/annoyed. Got on many great rides, Steel Vengeance was awesome.

 

However both days Gatekeeper & Raptor were closed the entire day due to winds, even though the wind directions were different both days.

-What irked me more, today Gatekeeper was running before the park opened at 10, but the attendant told us it closed as soon as the park opened. At 8pm on closing, they reopened it on the way out. Confused why they'd open it post closing, I asked the info desk what was up, and they said the individual ride operator decided at opening it wasn't safe, but decided it was again right before closing, but could only take premium tickets due to the late hour (the winds had died down for hours).

 

Is this a common occurrence, where they just close this ride and reopen for "premium", because it's obviously capable of running safely if they were later, and it seems very coincidental that winds were unacceptable just for the hours the park is open. Maybe they were short-staffed and just wouldn't admit it, but I'm upset as I travelled a long way and have never ridden a wing coaster (unless X2 counts).

 

GateKeeper is the most popular ride in the entire park, next to Millennium force. They wouldn’t close it because of staffing. It takes priority. They just run it with less staff when they need. GateKeeper has a wind meter at the top of the lift and it’s wired directly into the rides control panel. When the wind is too high at the top of the ride, it won’t let them run it. Seriously.

 

As for “premium,” I have zero idea what this means. Never heard of a “premium” ticket or premium riders.

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Went to the park the last few days, and I'm slightly baffled/annoyed. Got on many great rides, Steel Vengeance was awesome.

 

However both days Gatekeeper & Raptor were closed the entire day due to winds, even though the wind directions were different both days.

-What irked me more, today Gatekeeper was running before the park opened at 10, but the attendant told us it closed as soon as the park opened. At 8pm on closing, they reopened it on the way out. Confused why they'd open it post closing, I asked the info desk what was up, and they said the individual ride operator decided at opening it wasn't safe, but decided it was again right before closing, but could only take premium tickets due to the late hour (the winds had died down for hours).

 

Is this a common occurrence, where they just close this ride and reopen for "premium", because it's obviously capable of running safely if they were later, and it seems very coincidental that winds were unacceptable just for the hours the park is open. Maybe they were short-staffed and just wouldn't admit it, but I'm upset as I travelled a long way and have never ridden a wing coaster (unless X2 counts).

 

First of all, if you've ridden X2 there's no reason you should be irked about missing Gatekeeper. Thing is a B&M sleeper and don't feel bad about missing it. I prefer intensity before any over-trimmed B&M, and would ride X2 any day over Gatekeeper.

 

Second, I guarantee you missing the ride had nothing to do about "premium" anything literally the rides are super sensitive to the wind and you just missed them because of that. I promise you, just dumb stupid luck. Winds were down in the AM, then up during the day, then down again in the PM. This gives those "open early" guests that slot to ride before the park does, and that "stay late" guests that slot to get it after it closed. I promise, Cedar Point is super legit in trying to get their guests on all the rides as much as they can. Don't take it personally.

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What he said. They reopende TTD in July 2017 even after the official park closing. It had a breakdown one hour before and some people wanted to stay in line. We were on our way to Breakers and saw the ride testing. OPs let us in the line when it was already ten minutes after closing and we had four rides.

CP is great with trying to get rides open if there is a real chance and even it is only for a bunch of crazy people.

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^From my observations the past few years, school groups generally seem to stay late now. On the days the park has 8pm closes it's very common for school groups to be there till 7pm or even till close.

 

Very different then when I was a kid going for school and we we're leaving around 4-5pm.

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I just don't understand all the GP love for Gatekeeper. It's a mediocre ride. But maybe that's exactly the draw for GP: many of the other rides are too intense for them?

 

I kinda feel the same way for Valvarin. It's a great novelty the first time, but it's pretty much an overrated one trick pony, and I don't mind skipping either one when I visit CP.

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Gatekeeper basically hangs you upsidedown 170 feet in the air with no track above or below you. Valravn dangles you over a 223 foot straight-down dive with stunningly gorgeous views of the park and the lake.

 

You really don't understand why people find that fun?

 

Some enthusiasts are jaded because they ride coasters all the time, but to a normal person those two scenarios that I just mentioned are f*cking batshit insane.

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It's at the front of the park, looks awesome, and has its fun moments. Even I'm guilty of hitting it first (noob move, 0/10 would not recommend doing that) because my friends and I walk up to the gate and think "let's ride that one!" People that only go to the park once a year for their family vacation aren't going to think to run to Maverick or SV first, they're going to show up and do what looks fun. It's not a BAD ride, either. Definitely not one I'd skip when I visit.

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I love Gatekeeper and Valravn, they're really fun. I've ridden them multiple times on every visit. I don't want relentless intensity; I'm at a theme park to relax. Roller coasters promise you danger and excitement, bring you right to the edge of it, and then set you down gently at the end without a scratch. Both Gatekeeper and Valravn deliver on that promise.

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I also tried out the Ride Force app from this thread and got some decent result.

 

I don't know how I missed this but I'm really entertained (though not surprised) by the results... mainly the fact that Maverick is more forceful than Steel Vengeance so bow down, the fact that the app doesn't even realize that Iron Dragon is supposed to be a coaster and the fact that Raptor took the G Force app and broke it.

 

All of that sounds about right.

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Well, I'm a little disappointed as I couldnt ride like half the rides. Steel Vengeance and Maverick were good for me, as well as some of the older ones, but so far MF, Valraven, Raptor, and Gatekeeper were no gos. I don't think amusement parks are for me anymore.

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Hm.

 

I inferred the premium pass comment as something like the getting in early/late, or resort guest type thing. The people at the desk weren't very helpful. I guess I'm just a bit irked that it happened to re-open as the park closed, given that we were told it wasn't able to run due to safety. A part of me figured they just didn't plan on opening the ride that day, but made an exception later on for whatever reason for the stay-late guests. Regardless, just my bad luck I guess. Last time I visited Knotts Hangtime was closed too. >_<. Maybe next time.

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Much less busy day today and everything was open other than regular breakdowns. Even Windseeker was testing, never even seen it run before. Skyride was also open.

 

Unfortunately SV was down until 11, so got the morning started with Maverick and MF laps. Moved down to Rougarou and then Gatekeeper and Maxair. Didn't wait in a single line all morning. Rougarou was riding like an arrow looper this morning after I had a better ride yesterday. Count me in to the group who doesn't quite understand the Gatekeeper love. I understand the marketability of it, but just seems to shuffle a lot and for some reason I just find it a little uncomfortable.

 

Headed to Raptor which was actually riding smoother than Gatekeeper and is still one of my favorite coasters (and favorite invert). Blasted through Power Tower, TTD, and Magnum in about 20 minutes, then with about an hour and a half till I had to leave for the airport, headed back for a now running SV.

 

Sign on the way in said 90 minutes and when I got in line only the first 4 switchbacks were filled so figured that wouldn't be an issue. For whatever reason, even with dispatch times looking normal, the line moved incredibly slow. After an hour I was only at the very beginning of the tunnel. Knowing I wasn't going to get on in the next 30 mins, I dejectedly got out of line. At least got a fun ride on Gemini on the way out but a bummer to have to get out of line.

 

Next trip, I plan on spending more than 2 days...don't want to rush around as much. Love just hanging around that park, especially Frontiertown. Just seems so peaceful compared to most parks.

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^From my observations the past few years, school groups generally seem to stay late now. On the days the park has 8pm closes it's very common for school groups to be there till 7pm or even till close.

 

Very different then when I was a kid going for school and we we're leaving around 4-5pm.

 

 

When I was in school we would leave an hour before the park closed and it always pissed me off. Now that I run the trip for the school I teach at I have them meet at closing time. And I really don't expect to see all of them until all the rides are closed. For a lot of them it's the one and only time they will have ever been to CP so I let them get the most out of it.

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I had a nice day at the park yesterday. Parked in the CPS lot and on my way back saw SV had two trains on the transfer track and no workers were in the station, so quickly abandoned my plans to head back there. Coming up to the gate the had a sign that said SV was closed and Magnum would be taking its place. Rode Magnum once and then went over to Millennium Force for some magic gate time. Got about 10 rides in before 10:30.

 

Tried the new BackBeatQue and had the brisket, it was pretty good and they have a few different types of BBQ sauce to drown it in. Later on in the day I tried the stromboli at Hugo's and it was pretty damn good. I saw others say on opening day their food was cold, here's to hoping that has been corrected and stays that way, but overall a much, much better experience than Midway Market.

 

They had employees at the RR gate by SV that it would open at noon. The line started at the RR crossing and when I got in line at 11:45 it was past Miss Keat's. At 12:15 the line started moving, but that was to just shift the line into the queue for Deprivation. The finally opened the ride a bit after 12:30, and I got a back seat ride after about a 40 minute wait. After that, it was time to head open to my favorite ride in at CP, the Surf Lounge, and it was empty. I mean the bartender was thankful to have someone show up. He said he was told that only 200 rooms were booked for the night, and with the lousy weather yesterday I can believe it.

 

I finished up the day with rides on the "mediocre" & "sleeper" Gatekeeper and Valravn. I guess I must be an idiot or just scared of the intense rides because I enjoy those coasters a lot.

 

If you are heading to the park over the next few weeks, you might want to have a back up plan for early entry, as it is clear that they have been planning late openings for Steel Vengeance. (Rumors at the park said that it was due to the cold temperatures in the morning, but I don't know what the source for that info is.) Looking at the wait times online it seems it has not opened today, so I guess it's going to be another noon opening. I doubt they would want to carry this into the busy weekend but just be aware that it is a possibility, so you don't sprint all the way to the back of the park and see them putting water dummies on the ride.

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If you are heading to the park over the next few weeks, you might want to have a back up plan for early entry, as it is clear that they have been planning late openings for Steel Vengeance. (Rumors at the park said that it was due to the cold temperatures in the morning, but I don't know what the source for that info is.) Looking at the wait times online it seems it has not opened today, so I guess it's going to be another noon opening.

 

My first day there a few days ago, the ride attendant told us that SV has yet to open on time for the 2019 season, due to cold mornings. She said due to this, they had to run it a bunch of times in the morning to 'warm it up' before people could ride it.

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