Cedar Point (CP) Discussion Thread

[coasterbill 450]

Parks do care about anniversaries from the standpoint of trying to sell sh*t and they almost always market them. The problem is that many people think "caring about anniversaries" means blowing the budget on a massive coaster just because it's an anniversary year which is ridiculous

[operative_me 0]

100% agreed. The lament I see on Facebook right now is kind of hilarious. "OMG we aren't getting a coaster!!11!!"

I'm interested to see what "retro" things they do to mark the occasion.

[joelwee 4]

I'm interested to see what "retro" things they do to mark the occasion.

They're converting Steel Vengeance back to Mean Streak.

[Nrthwnd 73]

^

 

And Rougarou back to...Mantis?

 

P.S. And I really really think the suggested "fruit juice logo containers"

will reeeeeeally bring the mobs in, to the park.

 

 

Not. #saidwithsarcasm

[Mossed 0]

I know the park doesn't care about anniversaries, but it seems like the park will do some fun things in 2020 for their 150th.

 

(Queue people crying that we're not getting an 800 ft roller coaster lol)

 

Cedar Point planning 150th anniversary with retro ideas for 2020: What we know so far

 

I feel like this was put out to temper expectations a bit. Wouldn't be shocked at some sort of pirate ride type addition, obviously updated. Also bringing back retro food and beverage choices. Add a retro area similar to Route 76 at Valleyfair or County Fair (is that the name?) at Carowinds.

[ytterbiumanalyst 1]

Parks do care about anniversaries from the standpoint of trying to sell sh*t and they almost always market them. The problem is that many people think "caring about anniversaries" means blowing the budget on a massive coaster just because it's an anniversary year which is ridiculous

I'm starting to think a lot of parks actually do less on anniversary years just because the anniversary itself is marketable and they don't need much beyond that.

Edited January 12, 2019 by ytterbiumanalyst

[bluestreak 0]

^ exactly my thoughts.

I look at it like this. It's your 150th anniversary. That's super marketable on it's own. You also want to build a giant new coaster, also extremely marketable. During the anniversary year you don't build the new coaster and then build it in the next year or two. That gives you two years of easy marketing.

 

Or the alternative is you build the new coaster during your anniversary and you only get one year of marketing out of the situation. I think it's pretty obvious that the park will always go with the former instead of the latter.

[prozach626 116]

I pray that CP will get a new coaster for their 150th anniversary. I hope that new coaster is something similar to Kentucky Kingdom's Kentucky Flyer. It needs to be highly teased, so I can watch everyone on facebook lose their minds. That would be my 150th anniversary wish.

[AndrewA86 4]

I agree that CP needs something like Kentucky Flyer, but didn’t the park or maybe even Tony Clark say it would top Steel Vengeance?

 

 

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[boldikus 130]

I'm atarting to think a lot of parks actually do less on anniversary years just because the anniversary itself is marketable and they don't need much beyond that.

 

^ exactly my thoughts.

I look at it like this. It's your 150th anniversary. That's super marketable on it's own. You also want to build a giant new coaster, also extremely marketable. During the anniversary year you don't build the new coaster and then build it in the next year or two.

 

 

From an enthusiast standpoint, the park should build a new coaster. From a business standpoint, they definitely shouldn't bother. The anniversary and a billion awesome little things going on/being added/etc (the old school food items, maybe old school admission days, classic flats returning, parties etc?) is enough to get tons of people there. Tony has said at least once it is going to be more of a two-season event, going into 2021, so I could see them putting something large in the second year, and using 2020 to add/do a bunch of small things and also promote the following years big addition.

[southpuddle 17]

I agree that CP needs something like Kentucky Flyer, but didn’t the park or maybe even Tony Clark say it would top Steel Vengeance?

 

Do you expect him to come out and say “Don’t get your hopes up because the next coaster won’t be nearly as good as Steel Vengeance!” ? It’s marketing - don’t look to far into anything.

[Vonni 0]

I would still like to see an awesome GCI come to CP

[AndrewA86 4]

I agree that CP needs something like Kentucky Flyer, but didn’t the park or maybe even Tony Clark say it would top Steel Vengeance?

 

Do you expect him to come out and say “Don’t get your hopes up because the next coaster won’t be nearly as good as Steel Vengeance!” ? It’s marketing - don’t look to far into anything.

 

I believe there will be some truth to it. “Top” could simply mean that it’s taller than SV. I’d like to see a Gerstlauer Infinity.

 

 

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[ytterbiumanalyst 1]

I think we're all reading too much into this. He said very plainly that it will be on top of Steel Vengeance. I'm hoping for elevators like the Kings Island Eiffel Tower has to get to that station 200 feet in the air.

[bert425 112]

I agree that CP needs something like Kentucky Flyer, but didn’t the park or maybe even Tony Clark say it would top Steel Vengeance?

 

Do you expect him to come out and say “Don’t get your hopes up because the next coaster won’t be nearly as good as Steel Vengeance!” ? It’s marketing - don’t look to far into anything.

 

I believe there will be some truth to it. “Top” could simply mean that it’s taller than SV. I’d like to see a Gerstlauer Infinity.

 

it's a Top Spin to replace the Enterprise they removed!

[qwabmeiyaadn 0]

After sitting back and really thinking about Cedarpoint’s current portfolio of attractions and the way Cedarfair is expanding in the Sandusky area, I firmly believe the next significant addition will be a pier out into Lake Erie, similar to Santa Monica Pier. This was further confirmed from new construction images of sand being move around wicked twister, the rumors of WT being removed, as well as the park GM recently staying change is needed. I believe this is the start of CP expanding beyond the peninsula and further into Sandusky.

 

The beachfront remodeling has always been a priority of Matt O from CF and I think he envisions an atmosphere similar to the SoCal experience at Knott’s along with a pier that brings a Cali type vibe to the place. There will be a geurstlauer type coaster on the pier as well as a completely new midway, allowing the area around Maxair to re-develop.

 

2020, the year CP will break from it’s peninsula.

 

Prove me wrong fellas

[AndrewA86 4]

Bravo!!

[CoasterInk 0]

Prove me wrong fellas

Wrong

 

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[bgtlover 0]

I've posted somewhere that it would be nice if they would build a pier out on the beach side with more rides. Could we see that in 2020? No. If that were the case someone would have found some kind of permits or town/county meetings would have been held at minimum. Not sure full process to build out into the lake, but there are government agencies (state & federal) that would have to approve something like that (making it public record somewhere). Construction on something like that would have started well before now also (for a 2020 opening). Announced in 2020? Maybe, if that's even something they are interested in doing.

[prozach626 116]

I pray that CP will get a new coaster for their 150th anniversary. I hope that new coaster is something similar to Kentucky Kingdom's Kentucky Flyer. It needs to be highly teased, so I can watch everyone on facebook lose their minds. That would be my 150th anniversary wish.

 

I agree that CP needs something like Kentucky Flyer, but didn’t the park or maybe even Tony Clark say it would top Steel Vengeance?

 

No one understands my jokes, anymore.

[jynx242 0]

^those of us who know you from on the boards definitely get your jokes

 

David

[grsupercity 24]

My gut tells me the island where dinos alive will prime for the future expansions. i would love to see S&S and RMC team up to build a massive custom ground up 4d coaster.

[WolfBobs 10]

Hey guys random question here. I know I can scroll through the thousand plus pages for this info but I kinda wanna be lazy and ask anyways cause I'm trying to help a friend from the UK research a trip. I have never stayed in any hotel in Sandusky or on property so I have no idea. I just know some can be real hell holes.

 

I'm really curious if any of you who travel and stay off property can list the hotels to avoid like the plague.

 

And if anyone has any suggestions for clean, affordable accommodations as well. But the more important information is honestly the hotels to avoid.

 

Thanks!

 

(They are pricing out park owned properties but would like some other options too)

[Pedrinho 5]

Hey guys random question here. I know I can scroll through the thousand plus pages for this info but I kinda wanna be lazy and ask anyways cause I'm trying to help a friend from the UK research a trip. I have never stayed in any hotel in Sandusky or on property so I have no idea. I just know some can be real hell holes.

 

I'm really curious if any of you who travel and stay off property can list the hotels to avoid like the plague.

 

And if anyone has any suggestions for clean, affordable accommodations as well. But the more important information is honestly the hotels to avoid.

 

Thanks!

 

(They are pricing out park owned properties but would like some other options too)

I've only been there once (from Germany) and can highly recommend Breakers if the go for a once-in-a-lifetime-trip (or better once for a long time), because it halps you really getting on everything and having the option to go back, take a nap, avoid the midday ruhs and heat and use your time. Sure it's expensive. But for us, it was worth it. The room was great.

We were there for three and a half days, went to the park at 10 or 11 am, went for a nap around 3 pm, took the last ride on eacht coaster in the middle of the night and were in bed only 20 minutes after leaving the train. Just so convenient. As long a we will go there, we'll use Breakers.

 

If they will be to the Point more often and have probably Platinum Passes they may go to hotels off ground. Coasterbill has some good advices here.

[WolfBobs 10]

Hey guys random question here. I know I can scroll through the thousand plus pages for this info but I kinda wanna be lazy and ask anyways cause I'm trying to help a friend from the UK research a trip. I have never stayed in any hotel in Sandusky or on property so I have no idea. I just know some can be real hell holes.

 

I'm really curious if any of you who travel and stay off property can list the hotels to avoid like the plague.

 

And if anyone has any suggestions for clean, affordable accommodations as well. But the more important information is honestly the hotels to avoid.

 

Thanks!

 

(They are pricing out park owned properties but would like some other options too)

I've only been there once (from Germany) and can highly recommend Breakers if the go for a once-in-a-lifetime-trip (or better once for a long time), because it halps you really getting on everything and having the option to go back, take a nap, avoid the midday ruhs and heat and use your time. Sure it's expensive. But for us, it was worth it. The room was great.

We were there for three and a half days, went to the park at 10 or 11 am, went for a nap around 3 pm, took the last ride on eacht coaster in the middle of the night and were in bed only 20 minutes after leaving the train. Just so convenient. As long a we will go there, we'll use Breakers.

 

If they will be to the Point more often and have probably Platinum Passes they may go to hotels off ground. Coasterbill has some good advices here.

 

I already recommended the park owned properties due to all the added benefits but with travel and what not those hotels are a little out of the price range for their current trip budget. Not completely ruled out but they definitely want to explore more budget friendly options before making decisions. Thank you for your advice!