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One more thing... I've never been to Kings Island so if Halloweekends is going to be ridiculously crowded would it be worth it to give KI a try instead?

Depends on what you want. KI is open an hour later and has more Haunt mazes and better Haunt mazes. Didn't see any shows at Halloweekends when we went but the shows at KI are great. Also: Beast, Diamondback, Timbers, Banshee, Bat, Adventure Express,... are all amazing at night during Haunt. Personally, I think KI has a better atmosphere during Haunt than Cedar Point does.

 

Of course, you don't get Maverick, MF, and the others (except Dragster) but you can go on a summer night during ERT (or CoasterMania!) for the night ride experiences if that's what you're after.

 

But yeah.... after going to Halloweekends once last year and once this year and KI Haunt many more times, I highly recommend KI Haunt over Halloweekends. Of the few mazes at CP, there are only a couple I'd really say are worth waiting a long time for, if any.

 

Sounds like KI may be a winner. Can I expect the lines to be as bad as Cedar Point?

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I feel bad because this is all I post about lately but no... if a park has the ability to open and there's demand and they choose to stay closed then they're dumb. Period. Be creative and figure it ou

Did they happen to mention how heavy that train is?

So basically there were about as many rides open as there would be in peak season with 15 mph winds.

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One more thing... I've never been to Kings Island so if Halloweekends is going to be ridiculously crowded would it be worth it to give KI a try instead?

Depends on what you want. KI is open an hour later and has more Haunt mazes and better Haunt mazes. Didn't see any shows at Halloweekends when we went but the shows at KI are great. Also: Beast, Diamondback, Timbers, Banshee, Bat, Adventure Express,... are all amazing at night during Haunt. Personally, I think KI has a better atmosphere during Haunt than Cedar Point does.

 

Of course, you don't get Maverick, MF, and the others (except Dragster) but you can go on a summer night during ERT (or CoasterMania!) for the night ride experiences if that's what you're after.

 

But yeah.... after going to Halloweekends once last year and once this year and KI Haunt many more times, I highly recommend KI Haunt over Halloweekends. Of the few mazes at CP, there are only a couple I'd really say are worth waiting a long time for, if any.

 

Sounds like KI may be a winner. Can I expect the lines to be as bad as Cedar Point?

I have a response for you but I'm going to take it to the KI Thread to not derail CP thread and for anyone going to KI who is interested.

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One more thing... I've never been to Kings Island so if Halloweekends is going to be ridiculously crowded would it be worth it to give KI a try instead?

Depends on what you want. KI is open an hour later and has more Haunt mazes and better Haunt mazes. Didn't see any shows at Halloweekends when we went but the shows at KI are great. Also: Beast, Diamondback, Timbers, Banshee, Bat, Adventure Express,... are all amazing at night during Haunt. Personally, I think KI has a better atmosphere during Haunt than Cedar Point does.

 

Of course, you don't get Maverick, MF, and the others (except Dragster) but you can go on a summer night during ERT (or CoasterMania!) for the night ride experiences if that's what you're after.

 

But yeah.... after going to Halloweekends once last year and once this year and KI Haunt many more times, I highly recommend KI Haunt over Halloweekends. Of the few mazes at CP, there are only a couple I'd really say are worth waiting a long time for, if any.

 

 

Let me just +1 all of that, as somebody who is a lifelong CP fan, and die-hard! When it comes to Haunt, or Halloweekends, whatever you want to call it, KI wins easily, in my opinion! RAWKIN gave you a great run down of the reasons why, and I put my money where my mouth is, getting my Platinum Pass for next near through KI, so I got my free visit there this year! I'll be going down this Friday night, and enjoying Haunt for the third straight year. It's SO great!

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Sorry for interrupting the discussion:

 

When do details for CoasterMania get announced and where can I purchase tickets when available? I plan on getting a Club TPR membership before the event. Sorry for my ignorance. I've never cared to keep up with this until this year.

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Sorry for interrupting the discussion:

 

When do details for CoasterMania get announced and where can I purchase tickets when available? I plan on getting a Club TPR membership before the event. Sorry for my ignorance. I've never cared to keep up with this until this year.

This year they announced when CoasterMania tickets would go on sale at Winter Chill Out in late February, then tickets went on sale in early March. I think it was shared in Club TPR forum after that event, but not super talked about on the general forum since we all wanted our tickets first.

I got my Club TPR membership shortly after Chill Out but before tickets went on sale. However, since Robb is a busy man, it's always better to get that early as well! I can't speak for more details about Club TPR since this is my first year having it except that it has been AMAZING to have this year and totally worth the small initial fee! I'll definitely be renewing.

 

I don't think they announced the actual ERT details and schedule until a bit later but obviously getting tickets early is the priority.

 

I'm not sure if that's what they usually do but that's what they did this year.

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I've already read that Saturday is the worst day to attend Halloweekends but just how bad should I expect lines to be this Saturday?

 

Expect it to be hellish busy, honestly. Sunny and 78 right now in the forecast, on a HalloWeekends Saturday... Yeah, wouldn't even attempt the place, personally. Expect to sit in a 45min wait on the causeway just to park, 2hr waits for all the big coasters and don't even think about leaving at close (hint: leave early).

 

I absolutely just refuse going any Saturday's during HW by rule. Friday's and Sunday's, fine... Never Saturday !

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I've already read that Saturday is the worst day to attend Halloweekends but just how bad should I expect lines to be this Saturday?

 

I know you seemed to have moved on from this plan but I figured I'd mention that Queue Times is a great resource for these types of things since you can track wait times for the past week and get an idea of what to expect on a Haunt Saturday based on the previous Haunt Saturday. Some highlights from this past Saturday include...

 

Gatekeeper: 105 Minutes at park close. I'd imagine that ride was cycling until almost 2 in the morning.

Valravn: 120 Minutes at it's peak. 105 Minutes at park close. I'd imagine that ride was cycling until almost 2 in the morning.

Millennium Force: 120 Minutes all day and at park close. Again... probably cycling until 2 in the morning.

Maverick: 130 Minutes all day. More of the same... these poor ride ops.

Deprivation: 105 minutes at park close

Maxair was at ONE HOUR for the majority of the afternoon. Maxair...

BLUE STREAK (yes... Blue Streak) closed with a 45 minute wait at midnight. Power tower did also. 45 minutes at midnight for an S&S tower. Jesus...

Skyhawk (which never has a line) was also posting an hour wait for the majority of the afternoon.

Rouagrou: 90 minutes most of the day. F*cking Rougarou...

 

Queue-Times doesn't have Kings Island wait times unfortunately, but they have information on a lot of parks if you're curious. The data is pulled right from the park's respective wait time apps.

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^That is wretched! 90 minutes for Rougarou!? I guess Gemini is always a fall back, and a great ride. Oh wait, they don't run 3 trains anymore, do they? Still couldn't be too bad, could it?

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^That is wretched! 90 minutes for Rougarou!? I guess Gemini is always a fall back, and a great ride. Oh wait, they don't run 3 trains anymore, do they? Still couldn't be too bad, could it?

 

If by "fall back" you mean 60 minutes from about 4:00 on then yeah.

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^Ugh, no :/ Remembering Gemini with 3 trains, no seatbelts, no airgates... the queue full and half way down the length of the ride - no more than 30 mins. Still a great ride! Capacity is still good, just different.

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Well for the odd fella that may enjoy just taking in the crowd, atmosphere, or just being a line enthusiast those wait times would be just a delight.

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One more thing... I've never been to Kings Island so if Halloweekends is going to be ridiculously crowded would it be worth it to give KI a try instead?

Depends on what you want. KI is open an hour later and has more Haunt mazes and better Haunt mazes. Didn't see any shows at Halloweekends when we went but the shows at KI are great. Also: Beast, Diamondback, Timbers, Banshee, Bat, Adventure Express,... are all amazing at night during Haunt. Personally, I think KI has a better atmosphere during Haunt than Cedar Point does.

 

Of course, you don't get Maverick, MF, and the others (except Dragster) but you can go on a summer night during ERT (or CoasterMania!) for the night ride experiences if that's what you're after.

 

But yeah.... after going to Halloweekends once last year and once this year and KI Haunt many more times, I highly recommend KI Haunt over Halloweekends. Of the few mazes at CP, there are only a couple I'd really say are worth waiting a long time for, if any.

 

 

Let me just +1 all of that, as somebody who is a lifelong CP fan, and die-hard! When it comes to Haunt, or Halloweekends, whatever you want to call it, KI wins easily, in my opinion! RAWKIN gave you a great run down of the reasons why, and I put my money where my mouth is, getting my Platinum Pass for next near through KI, so I got my free visit there this year! I'll be going down this Friday night, and enjoying Haunt for the third straight year. It's SO great!

Depending on what you expect from the park, they both have their perks.

 

Kings Island is definitely stronger for the Haunt-related attractions, and doesn't suffer as dramatically from staffing shortages when school starts. However, Fridays and Sundays also seem to be much busier at KI than at CP.

 

Cedar Point is weaker for the Haunt, but as I typically go on Friday, it's basically ERT all night. The Haunt atmosphere is a nice bonus. I rarely go through the mazes.

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I've already read that Saturday is the worst day to attend Halloweekends but just how bad should I expect lines to be this Saturday?

 

I know you seemed to have moved on from this plan but I figured I'd mention that Queue Times is a great resource for these types of things since you can track wait times for the past week and get an idea of what to expect on a Haunt Saturday based on the previous Haunt Saturday. Some highlights from this past Saturday include...

 

Gatekeeper: 105 Minutes at park close. I'd imagine that ride was cycling until almost 2 in the morning.

Valravn: 120 Minutes at it's peak. 105 Minutes at park close. I'd imagine that ride was cycling until almost 2 in the morning.

Millennium Force: 120 Minutes all day and at park close. Again... probably cycling until 2 in the morning.

Maverick: 130 Minutes all day. More of the same... these poor ride ops.

Deprivation: 105 minutes at park close

Maxair was at ONE HOUR for the majority of the afternoon. Maxair...

BLUE STREAK (yes... Blue Streak) closed with a 45 minute wait at midnight. Power tower did also. 45 minutes at midnight for an S&S tower. Jesus...

Skyhawk (which never has a line) was also posting an hour wait for the majority of the afternoon.

Rouagrou: 90 minutes most of the day. F*cking Rougarou...

 

Queue-Times doesn't have Kings Island wait times unfortunately, but they have information on a lot of parks if you're curious. The data is pulled right from the park's respective wait time apps.

 

First I'd just like to thank you all for your help, I really appreciate it a lot. But OMG those lines are outrageous!!! I also forgot Dragster is down. I couldn't imagine going to the park and not being able to ride it. This really has me second guessing. I may have to look a little more into KI.

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No problem!

 

Regarding Dragster, apparently there's actually been visible work going on at the ride and the park has never actually stated that it was closed for the season. While I agree that if you can't imagine visiting the park without riding Dragster you shouldn't plan a trip for this weekend, I wouldn't exactly be shocked if it's running this weekend either. Enthusiasts declared it closed for the season based on some leaked photos but the park has never stated that. Evidently at some point last weekend the launch cable (which was slack on Saturday) was returned to it's operating position. Anyone who actually knows anything about what's going on isn't talking but I'm sure Cedar point is trying to get the ride open as quickly as possible. I wouldn't give up on it quite yet.

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Agreed, thanks for the information. I'm also flying up this weekend from Texas. Visiting King's Island Friday and CP on Saturday. No worries, I'm buying Fast Lane Plus on Saturday I do really hope they've gotten Top Thrill back up. I've been watching the progress and CP Rundown had a video of them testing the fins on Sunday. I have a feeling they'll get it up and going by Saturday!

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Thanks for pointing out that video. I just watched it and yeah... I don't want to make any bold declarations with no inside knowledge of what's going on but I'm pretty optimistic about Dragster opening up soon.

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I've been there probably 5 times since the "accident" and every single time theres been a mechanic working on it.

Also, I'd think that if CP thought it would be down for the year, they'd take the trains off the ride to get a head start on maintenance, which isn't the case. All 6 trains are sitting in transfer waiting to open again.

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^I'm not sure how the process works for calculating wait times or who's in charge of it, but one thing I noticed about a Six Flags app is that they're updated infrequently enough to be somewhat questionable unless it's shortly after an update. The updates were at odd times, about once an hour.

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^I'm not sure how the process works for calculating wait times or who's in charge of it, but one thing I noticed about a Six Flags app is that they're updated infrequently enough to be somewhat questionable unless it's shortly after an update. The updates were at odd times, about once an hour.

I can't speak for Six Flags (though it may be similar procedures), but a ride host at the specific ride calls in wait times at a given interval (or when given the opportunity), which then updates the app. There are definitely times it might not be updated recently, but in general they're updated reasonably well.

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The real question is, are you optimistic enough to make another trip to Cedar Point this year to try to get on it?

 

Nah. Sky Ride is generally closed for staffing during Halloweekends so I generally avoid the park after Labor Day.

 

 

 

 

 

 

... lol and I'm only kind of joking. While obviously I run with the Sky Ride thing a little as a joke and while obviously it's not the main draw... why go to the park when you know a lot of rides will be closed or running at reduced capacity due to staffing problems? If I loved closer I'd go, but when we only get one or two visits a year I schedule them for times when the park will be running at full capacity. They don't even have the staffing to run a lot of their coasters on Friday nights. It's more the fault of the year-round population of the area than the park but Halloweekends is a mess.

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Yeah, I've only been able to make limited visits to Cedar Point every handful of years. As such, most of my experience with the park has been in the middle of summer i.e. a madhouse. Last year we went on the opening week and it was still pretty busy, but we were pretty fortunate. I think next year we are going to shoot for the first full week of operations and go during the week so I can attempt to get some of the station waits that, from my experience, I can only assume are some sort of myth...

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