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At the park today. Lines aren't terrible. Lots of schools. I wish they announced when schools were going to be here. They don't always. Even with tons of school kids the longest wait according to the app is only 30 minutes. Hoping the schools leave around 6. Does anyone know what time they leave?

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Saw this in my Instagram feed this morning... Looks like there will be an overbanked turn or possible third inversion in the structure just underneath the lift.

 

How in the heck do they do they maneuver the machinery around and inside to construct inside the structure?!?! I find roller coaster construction very fascinating and RMC baffles me with this coaster remodeling.

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Ok, so I hate posting something like this but I had a really terrible experience at CP on Sunday. My boyfriend and I drove down from NY to go to the park for the day on Sunday. I've been to CP easily 10+ times since I've been a child (31 now) and was taking my boyfriend for his first time ever. The trip was going great, minimal lines, decent weather until we decided to grab lunch and watch a little bit of the hockey game at Chickie & Pete's.

 

We showed up around 3:30pm and it wasn't overly busy, we grabbed 2 seats at the bar, also at the bar was a young couple and 2 older gentlemen (mid-late 40s) at the opposite end of the bar. Bartender was really friendly, one TV was set to the game the other was on Sportscenter, I asked him to turn the other one to hockey too at our end of the bar, he obliged. We then grabbed a couple beers and ordered an app right away. I came back from the restroom and when I sat down, I put my arm around my boyfriend's shoulder, the older gentlemen at the far end of the bar almost immediately made the comment to the bartender "Queers like hockey? Who knew?". The bartender laughed and said "Guess so". I was completely caught off guard by this.

 

I understand people have their own beliefs and that's cool with me, strangers can say whatever they like, it doesn't bother me. What did bother me was the bartender engaging in the conversation with him. I ignored it and we were almost done eating, when again the same gentlemen at the bar said "of course fags would like a Canadian team" after he saw my Ottawa Sens hat. The bartender, again, laughed. I asked for the bill right away and we paid and left. My boyfriend was fairly upset by the comments and kind of got self-conscious and afterwards felt like everyone was staring at us in the park. We ended up leaving around 5pm to head home because he wasn't feeling it anymore.

 

When we returned home I shot off an email via the link on the CP site, and mailed the same letter as well. I also followed up with a phone call today and was unable to reach anyone. Am I overreacting to this? I thought I'd hear back from CP fairly quickly but haven't heard anything. Anyone else ever had to reach out to CP's guest relations for an incident before? What channel did you use to contact them? Thanks!

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^^^ If that guy at the bar said something to the same effect about fat people, and the bartender laughed and agreed,

I am sure there would be repercussions.

 

You are not over reacting. I would of called them both a-holes myself, as I left. Or something to that effect, to make a point,

that the words "queer" and "fag" are still used negatively, especially by straight people. And nowadays, they believe they

can get away with it even more.

 

Rant over. But still, I would have shot right back with something to shut that imbecile at the bar, down.

And if it caused him to get angrier...well that's his problem.

 

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Ok, so I hate posting something like this but I had a really terrible experience at CP on Sunday. My boyfriend and I drove down from NY to go to the park for the day on Sunday. I've been to CP easily 10+ times since I've been a child (31 now) and was taking my boyfriend for his first time ever. The trip was going great, minimal lines, decent weather until we decided to grab lunch and watch a little bit of the hockey game at Chickie & Pete's.

 

We showed up around 3:30pm and it wasn't overly busy, we grabbed 2 seats at the bar, also at the bar was a young couple and 2 older gentlemen (mid-late 40s) at the opposite end of the bar. Bartender was really friendly, one TV was set to the game the other was on Sportscenter, I asked him to turn the other one to hockey too at our end of the bar, he obliged. We then grabbed a couple beers and ordered an app right away. I came back from the restroom and when I sat down, I put my arm around my boyfriend's shoulder, the older gentlemen at the far end of the bar almost immediately made the comment to the bartender "Queers like hockey? Who knew?". The bartender laughed and said "Guess so". I was completely caught off guard by this.

 

I understand people have their own beliefs and that's cool with me, strangers can say whatever they like, it doesn't bother me. What did bother me was the bartender engaging in the conversation with him. I ignored it and we were almost done eating, when again the same gentlemen at the bar said "of course fags would like a Canadian team" after he saw my Ottawa Sens hat. The bartender, again, laughed. I asked for the bill right away and we paid and left. My boyfriend was fairly upset by the comments and kind of got self-conscious and afterwards felt like everyone was staring at us in the park. We ended up leaving around 5pm to head home because he wasn't feeling it anymore.

 

When we returned home I shot off an email via the link on the CP site, and mailed the same letter as well. I also followed up with a phone call today and was unable to reach anyone. Am I overreacting to this? I thought I'd hear back from CP fairly quickly but haven't heard anything. Anyone else ever had to reach out to CP's guest relations for an incident before? What channel did you use to contact them? Thanks!

 

Overreacting? in my opinion maybe just a little bit.

 

Living in Texas, I deal with idiots like that guy all the time... so maybe I'm just used to it? I would have absolutely said something to the man.

 

and would have made it clear to the Bartender that his agreement was inappropriate and made you feel unwelcome.

 

The time to have said something, in my opinion only, is when it was actually happening, and to ensure the Bartender knew you were uncomfortable with his handling of the situation.

 

But you do have a valid point to make to CP that it was not appropriate for the bartender to "laugh and agree". . . not sure what they will respond with, but likely you will get a response along the lines that they strive to make all feel welcome, and they are sorry for the situation.

 

I'm sorry you felt singled out.

 

hugs.

 

bert

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^^^^ What a truly classy individual. It doesn't really sound to me like you overreacted to me. It's hard to say I would have spoken up because I'm not a very confrontational person, but I have a feeling if the guy had no qualms saying that stuff aloud, he would have ended up saying something to me because at the very least I would have looked at him like the douchebag he is. As for the waiter, I get that it may be easier just to go along, but that wasn't very professional.

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Ok, so I hate posting something like this but I had a really terrible experience at CP on Sunday. My boyfriend and I drove down from NY to go to the park for the day on Sunday. I've been to CP easily 10+ times since I've been a child (31 now) and was taking my boyfriend for his first time ever. The trip was going great, minimal lines, decent weather until we decided to grab lunch and watch a little bit of the hockey game at Chickie & Pete's.

 

We showed up around 3:30pm and it wasn't overly busy, we grabbed 2 seats at the bar, also at the bar was a young couple and 2 older gentlemen (mid-late 40s) at the opposite end of the bar. Bartender was really friendly, one TV was set to the game the other was on Sportscenter, I asked him to turn the other one to hockey too at our end of the bar, he obliged. We then grabbed a couple beers and ordered an app right away. I came back from the restroom and when I sat down, I put my arm around my boyfriend's shoulder, the older gentlemen at the far end of the bar almost immediately made the comment to the bartender "Queers like hockey? Who knew?". The bartender laughed and said "Guess so". I was completely caught off guard by this.

 

I understand people have their own beliefs and that's cool with me, strangers can say whatever they like, it doesn't bother me. What did bother me was the bartender engaging in the conversation with him. I ignored it and we were almost done eating, when again the same gentlemen at the bar said "of course fags would like a Canadian team" after he saw my Ottawa Sens hat. The bartender, again, laughed. I asked for the bill right away and we paid and left. My boyfriend was fairly upset by the comments and kind of got self-conscious and afterwards felt like everyone was staring at us in the park. We ended up leaving around 5pm to head home because he wasn't feeling it anymore.

 

When we returned home I shot off an email via the link on the CP site, and mailed the same letter as well. I also followed up with a phone call today and was unable to reach anyone. Am I overreacting to this? I thought I'd hear back from CP fairly quickly but haven't heard anything. Anyone else ever had to reach out to CP's guest relations for an incident before? What channel did you use to contact them? Thanks!

Antiquated machoism in 2017, sad. The bartender was way out of line IMO. He could've just grinned and it wouldn't have seemed as bad, but actually verbally concurring with the homophobic comments is completely unprofessional.

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Ok, so I hate posting something like this but I had a really terrible experience at CP on Sunday. My boyfriend and I drove down from NY to go to the park for the day on Sunday. I've been to CP easily 10+ times since I've been a child (31 now) and was taking my boyfriend for his first time ever. The trip was going great, minimal lines, decent weather until we decided to grab lunch and watch a little bit of the hockey game at Chickie & Pete's.

 

We showed up around 3:30pm and it wasn't overly busy, we grabbed 2 seats at the bar, also at the bar was a young couple and 2 older gentlemen (mid-late 40s) at the opposite end of the bar. Bartender was really friendly, one TV was set to the game the other was on Sportscenter, I asked him to turn the other one to hockey too at our end of the bar, he obliged. We then grabbed a couple beers and ordered an app right away. I came back from the restroom and when I sat down, I put my arm around my boyfriend's shoulder, the older gentlemen at the far end of the bar almost immediately made the comment to the bartender "Queers like hockey? Who knew?". The bartender laughed and said "Guess so". I was completely caught off guard by this.

 

I understand people have their own beliefs and that's cool with me, strangers can say whatever they like, it doesn't bother me. What did bother me was the bartender engaging in the conversation with him. I ignored it and we were almost done eating, when again the same gentlemen at the bar said "of course fags would like a Canadian team" after he saw my Ottawa Sens hat. The bartender, again, laughed. I asked for the bill right away and we paid and left. My boyfriend was fairly upset by the comments and kind of got self-conscious and afterwards felt like everyone was staring at us in the park. We ended up leaving around 5pm to head home because he wasn't feeling it anymore.

 

When we returned home I shot off an email via the link on the CP site, and mailed the same letter as well. I also followed up with a phone call today and was unable to reach anyone. Am I overreacting to this? I thought I'd hear back from CP fairly quickly but haven't heard anything. Anyone else ever had to reach out to CP's guest relations for an incident before? What channel did you use to contact them? Thanks!

 

The bartender is representing Cedar Point, and that type of person does not belong in a park that's supposed to be helping everyone have the best day of their year.

 

I hope the take action on this. As someone who is from Ohio, I hate that you had to feel like you couldn't be yourself at the park. You should be able to be yourself in all states/bars/public places. Sorry those awful people cut your day short.

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I'm not going too far into this but I will just say that without being there, this is tough for any of us to really judge the situation. Being in a service position myself I can totally get where this bartender is coming from. My kneejerk reaction was that he was giving a very passive response so as not to cause any issue and not further the conversation either. If the individual you are speaking of was belligerent in any way giving a quick laugh would likely be my response as well, and likely the best response. If he calls out his customer (after all, let's not forget that the other gentleman was his customer as well) then we could end up with this situation escalating further.

 

TL:DR I don't think being mad at the bartender is entirely fair. He wasn't the one who made the comment and who knows, like many people, his way of avoiding/diffusing the situation could have been a nervous laugh. Again, none of us were there so it's purely speculation.

 

Hopefully the Sens have something more for the Pens tonight. I can't bear seeing Crosby's face any longer this year...

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TL:DR I don't think being mad at the bartender is entirely fair. He wasn't the one who made the comment and who knows, like many people, his way of avoiding/diffusing the situation could have been a nervous laugh. Again, none of us were there so it's purely speculation.

 

 

Something as simple as "sorry, but we welcome everybody here" could have gone a long way to help, but even if the bartender wanted to avoid confrontation for himself at all costs, it doesn't sound like he did anything to stick up for equally-valued guests. He also blew a chance to apologize personally, which could have been done quietly and included a promise to notify the office about what happened so that management could help make it right.

 

Instead, two guests ended up leaving the park early & uncomfortable, and now we know what happened on a popular park forum. This might not make the news, but it's surely not what Cedar Point wants. If a park statement were to read, "We don't think being mad at our bartender is entirely fair," we'd all be mad.

 

Situations like this may also call into question what protocol and/or ethical responsibilities employees have if they notice discrimination or bullying. It seems like that should be an important element of employee training for sustaining a quality standard of in-park culture.

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At the park today. Lines aren't terrible. Lots of schools. I wish they announced when schools were going to be here. They don't always. Even with tons of school kids the longest wait according to the app is only 30 minutes. Hoping the schools leave around 6. Does anyone know what time they leave?

 

Many parks have education days in late April and during May on weekdays. Some days have more show up than others. It's been like that for years.

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I feel like you overreacted a bit. Then again, I couldn't care less what some guy at a bar says about me. I probably would have laughed and agreed with whatever was said. Maybe even added to it a bit. Ignorance isn't going to be solved by confrontation, that usually just makes it worse. Look at all the ignorant people rioting because they don't agree with the president. It's not solving anything and just makes them look hysterical.

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Ignorance isn't going to be solved by confrontation, that usually just makes it worse.

 

Ignorance is DEFINITELY not going to be solved with "haha guess so" remarks from the bartender... Maybe some people can't just laugh it off so easily. It sucks to feel criticized and made fun of, especially in public. Have some empathy

 

Look at all the ignorant people rioting because they don't agree with the president. It's not solving anything and just makes them look hysterical.

 

Bringing up politics in a theme park forum is distasteful.

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I feel like you overreacted a bit. Then again, I couldn't care less what some guy at a bar says about me. I probably would have laughed and agreed with whatever was said. Maybe even added to it a bit. Ignorance isn't going to be solved by confrontation, that usually just makes it worse. Look at all the ignorant people rioting because they don't agree with the president. It's not solving anything and just makes them look hysterical.

 

The bartender could have apologized and passed along the guests' info to the office so that management could also apologize for the bad experience, all without confrontation. There's also no confrontation or hysterics in having a bad experience and letting the park know. It's a responsible thing to do; much better than both picking a fight or endorsing mistreatment by way of passive acceptance.

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I'm not going too far into this but I will just say that without being there, this is tough for any of us to really judge the situation.

 

Agreed. Obviously this guy is a horrible person but I honestly don't know what I would have done if I were the bartender. Trying to laugh it off wasn't the right thing to do but at the same time he was probably just trying to diffuse a situation before it escalated further and he had to figure out what to do on the fly. Was that the right way to handle it? No. But this was someone who just started a new seasonal job, most likely doesn't get paid enough for this sh*t and probably didn't want to be confrontational with that guy either. If he were a bartender at a regular bar then I'd probably hold him to a higher standard when it comes to handling situations like this but I wouldn't think situations like this would come up all that often at a family friendly theme park and he probably just wanted to diffuse things and had no clue how to do so.

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he was probably just trying to diffuse a situation before it escalated further and he had to figure out what to do on the fly. Was that the right way to handle it? No. But this was someone who just started a new seasonal job, most likely doesn't get paid enough for this sh*t and probably didn't want to be confrontational with that guy either... he probably just wanted to diffuse things and had no clue how to do so.

 

This is exactly what I was getting at but put a little more elegantly. I just imagine some poor kid who was put into a situation for the first time and had no idea what to do. I always try to extend the benefit of the doubt before shaming them. It sucks to be blindsided by a situation like this, have to make a quick response, and then be judged by people who will be able to take time and analyze what you did right or wrong.

 

Anyways, can we move on to rollercoasters before this devolves?

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Ok, so I hate posting something like this but I had a really terrible experience at CP on Sunday. My boyfriend and I drove down from NY to go to the park for the day on Sunday. I've been to CP easily 10+ times since I've been a child (31 now) and was taking my boyfriend for his first time ever. The trip was going great, minimal lines, decent weather until we decided to grab lunch and watch a little bit of the hockey game at Chickie & Pete's.

 

We showed up around 3:30pm and it wasn't overly busy, we grabbed 2 seats at the bar, also at the bar was a young couple and 2 older gentlemen (mid-late 40s) at the opposite end of the bar. Bartender was really friendly, one TV was set to the game the other was on Sportscenter, I asked him to turn the other one to hockey too at our end of the bar, he obliged. We then grabbed a couple beers and ordered an app right away. I came back from the restroom and when I sat down, I put my arm around my boyfriend's shoulder, the older gentlemen at the far end of the bar almost immediately made the comment to the bartender "Queers like hockey? Who knew?". The bartender laughed and said "Guess so". I was completely caught off guard by this.

 

I understand people have their own beliefs and that's cool with me, strangers can say whatever they like, it doesn't bother me. What did bother me was the bartender engaging in the conversation with him. I ignored it and we were almost done eating, when again the same gentlemen at the bar said "of course fags would like a Canadian team" after he saw my Ottawa Sens hat. The bartender, again, laughed. I asked for the bill right away and we paid and left. My boyfriend was fairly upset by the comments and kind of got self-conscious and afterwards felt like everyone was staring at us in the park. We ended up leaving around 5pm to head home because he wasn't feeling it anymore.

 

When we returned home I shot off an email via the link on the CP site, and mailed the same letter as well. I also followed up with a phone call today and was unable to reach anyone. Am I overreacting to this? I thought I'd hear back from CP fairly quickly but haven't heard anything. Anyone else ever had to reach out to CP's guest relations for an incident before? What channel did you use to contact them? Thanks!

 

Very sorry this happened to you. It's disgusting this happens at all but without getting to much into it, a lot of Americans still have a lot of progress to make. I don't think you overreacted at all. In fact you were willing to let it go and not let it ruin your time, but they were the ones to re open the situation. As for the bartender, I'd imagine in that position it's best to just ignore it, that way no need to "upset" that person (crappy as they are no one needs an angry person at a bar!). Seems the better way to handle things, I'll hope they just weren't thinking (I know they can have a ton on their plate) and aren't bigoted/OK with that type stuff.

 

As for who to contact, sorry no idea. Just typing in Cedar Point guest relations brought up some phone numbers. Good luck to you! I'm sure the park gets a ton of responses constantly so I'd not be worried if they haven't responded yet. Do hope you get a hold of someone.

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