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P. 1989: Wicked Twister's permanent closure announced!

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Us being enthusiasts know this isn't the case but for what it's worth on Saturday they had a message on the video board on the way in saying "due to weather conditions, some rides may not operate today" so from a "general public" point of view, that covers their a$$. Sunday, however, there was no message like that.

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We finally booked our vacation for our quad-Cedar Fair trip this summer, and we'll be back at Cedar Point on Aug 2nd and 3rd. Hopefully the weather is nice, but we allowed 4 flexible days between Cedar Point and Kings Island, so hopefully it all works out. I haven't been since 2014, so I'm thrilled to try Rougarou, Valravn, and new Maverick restraints (minor, but such a determining factor for me).

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In the defense of Magnum and the park, Magnum is smack dab in the middle of a construction zone at the moment. Many of the fences and gates around low-lying areas were likely missing for much of the off season, which made it impossible for the ride to be operated due to Cedar Points very strict lock-out procedures. Take that into consideration before laying fault on the park. Yes, they could notify guests ahead of time, but there are plenty of rides to ride elsewhere... They were running it on Sunday to ready it for inspection, since the state doesn't work on the weekends. It will likely be open next weekend.

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For what it's worth, I'm not excusing the park. A park as big as CP SHOULD be on top of training and such. I'm also just saying that if it's a known issue then consider going a different weekend.

 

 

 

First World problems ...

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Yes, they could notify guests ahead of time, but there are plenty of rides to ride elsewhere...

 

The same could be said for Disney but they still post their known closures.

 

It's just good practice and good customer service in this industry.

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I bet if Magnum and Gemini were down on some random weekend during the middle of summer it wouldn't be a big deal. But since it was opening weekend, "oh how dare CP not be perfect right out of the gate".

 

I'd say there's a difference between a mid year ride closure and opening weekend ride closure. If its mid year, its most likely a mechanical issue. That's unavoidable and understandable. This was not the case. This seemed to be them being ill prepared for the weekend. There isn't a good excuse to not have rides state certified yet.

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Nevermind, I was under the impression that it was seasons pass preview night, not official opening day. So yea, I mean I would never schedule a trip for opening day with a family and plan to drive down, but cedar point has 0 excuse to have rides open for a reason such as that.

Two things...

 

1. If you're traveling a long distance and making your "only visit this year" on opening weekend, honestly, that's sort of dumb and poor planning on your part. And not even for Cedar Point but for ANY seasonal amusement park. And if you're a local with a season pass? Big deal! Just come back again some other time. Space Mountain was closed the other day at Magic Kingdom, did I go online and bitch about it? No, I can go whenever I want. Not a big deal.

 

2. I'm pretty sure that Cedar Point didn't WANT those rides closed and probably were also upset by the closure. And hey, if TWO rides being down is going to be a dealbreaker for your weekend at the park, which has a LOT of other really awesome rides, maybe you should try to find another hobby? Or at least some patience. I mean we went to Dollywood last year and their big new ride wasn't open. We flew half way around the world to Abu Dhabi and Formula Rossa was closed. We missed Taron by a week at Phantasialand. You know how much we bitched in those incidents? NONE. Because we were still at a park having an excellent time and being at Cedar Point with Magnum closed still has to be better than a day at work, right?

 

So stop your complaining...

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Robb - I was thinking the same thing myself .

 

Anyone who has ever even looked at this forum should know what to expect on opening weekend for ANY park.

 

Darn people - you are at Cedar Point! The place is HUGE and has TONS of rides. Although I like Magnum quite a bit - when the park has Maverick and Millennium Force in it - I'd be okay with that closure.

 

That being said, I'm really looking forward to some information on the actual layout of the New Bionic Mean Streak. I know some people can tell what is going on by looking at ledgers, bents, etc.... but I'm not one of them. From what I can see though, it looks freaking cool.

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Anyone who has ever even looked at this forum should know what to expect on opening weekend for ANY park.

 

Most of the discussion in this topic hasn't been about "people who looked at this forum" - it's about the general public who pay full price without being told in advance that rides will be closed, which the best-in-class theme parks are very good about doing. It's about understanding why a park that was once voted "best in the world" (and is still considered so by many) is not following the examples of those best-in-class competitors.

 

And, as discussed in this thread, this type of problem is not endemic across the industry. Most parks have opening weekends without multiple ride closures outside of routine maintenance. CP struggles with this in a way most parks don't. I'm sure there are complex reasons for it, but to say that it's expected at ANY park just isn't true.

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I would've been a lot cooler with the Magnum/Gemini situation if they would've put something on their website or Social Media warning guests about the closures. In my opinion, it's just not very classy to keep guests in the dark about it.

 

Sure, it is kinda dumb to show up Opening Weekend and expect everything to be working. But the GP doesn't know that. For some people, Magnum is their favorite ride. It still has some of the best ridership in the park. If the park would've simply put out a Facebook blast saying "Magnum and Gemini won't be running this weekend.", I'm sure most people wouldn't have had a problem with it.

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I agree with basically everything Robb said (especially the first point), but I don't think all parks are created equal when it comes to their preparedness for opening day either. EVERY PARK has opening day issues and enthusiasts shouldn't go to opening day at any park expecting perfection but Cedar Point for whatever reason seems to have a tougher time getting their rides open on time than most other regional parks. Perhaps it's just because they have more rides to deal with, maybe it's staffing, maybe it's weather, who knows?

 

I guess to be fair if Magnum is operating next weekend then this is a dramatic improvement over the last few years where it's taken them until almost Memorial Day weekend to have all of their coasters ready for the season.

 

So in summary, Robb is 100% right but at the same time I do think this park in particular seems to have a much more difficult time getting all of their rides operational each season than other parks do. Really that just reinforces his point about how enthusiasts should know better and I agree with that, but it still seems crazy to me that they have rides that aren't certified by opening day. I've been to tons of parks where rides were closed on opening day, but in those cases the issues were clearly mechanical with maintenance actively working to get them open. Who knows, maybe this is way more common than I think and I've just been lucky.

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^^ Sure be disappointed with rides not opening, but don't go around moaning. The theme park industry is not exactly reliable, and that is just the fact of the matter really. Make the most of what you have. I mean, some people have to live near rubbish parks or no parks. If I had the chance I would go to CP if half the good rides were closed. It would still have many epic rides open, all of which are on my bucket list. Fair enough (sort of) if you go to a small park with one good ride and it is closed. For example, going to Sweden to go to Kolmarden, only to find Wildfire closed. Or (form my experience) travelling 4 hours on a train to a theme park which is completely closed. If someone is not happy with riding the worlds best strata coaster, the worlds tallest wing coaster, the worlds tallest dive coaster, one of the worlds best hyper coasters, maybe even awesome Maverick and Raptor operating, then complain because two of the other rides are not open. Makes no sense to me at all.

 

To be honest, I would not compeain if I just got to ride Raptor and TTD, or any other two big rides at the park. Maybe I just have low expectations, or maybe other people should lower theirs.

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Anyone who has ever even looked at this forum should know what to expect on opening weekend for ANY park.

 

Most of the discussion in this topic hasn't been about "people who looked at this forum" - it's about the general public who pay full price without being told in advance that rides will be closed, which the best-in-class theme parks are very good about doing. It's about understanding why a park that was once voted "best in the world" (and is still considered so by many) is not following the examples of those best-in-class competitors.

Please just shut the hell up. Your complaints and comments are insanely stupid and it's not even worth my time trying to explain to you why. Go back and read what I wrote. And if you can't grasp that sense of rationality, our forum isn't for you and please just leave and post your crap comments somewhere else. Thanks.

 

--Robb "Has anyone else noticed that Robb seems to have lost all patience with stupid people lately? It's refreshing, isn't it?" Alvey

 

EDIT: You know what...nevermind, I'm just going to ban this guy. So sick of trying to rationalize with irrational people. Don't want 'em on our forum. Don't need 'em. Bu-bye Felicia.

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I would also like to point out two things for anyone who is still thinking about bitching and complaining about this....

 

1. Cedar Point is offering a discounted rate during these early season dates:

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Last I checked Disney isn't offering a discounted rate for half of Hollywood Studios being closed, and they don't need to. Why? Because there is

PLENTY OF OTHER COOL STUFF TO DO AROUND THE PARKS!!!!!

 

2. Cedar Point posts this on their website and I'm sure it's on tickets and other information throughout the park....

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Again, I just don't understand the complaining. Year after year. The same complaints and bitching. Seriously people, SHUT UP and just go enjoy the park. Sorry your stupid favorite ride is closed or whatever, get over it.

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So how about that new Mean Streak!?!?!

Yes, exactly. What I don't get it how over the off-season people were chomping at the bit for Mean Streak photos that we were asked not to be posted and now that the park is open, where are the Mean Streak photos now that it's okay to post them???

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