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P. 1989: Wicked Twister's permanent closure announced!

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Actually, I'd guess 2017 based purely on a the early start, the lack of other RMC projects, and the fact that Cedar Point hasn't announced their in park additions yet.

 

Cedar Point is spending a ridiculous amount of money on additions already. They're currently making huge expansions to 2 hotels and expanding and renovating the water park all while a major RMC coaster project seems to be going on and they're building a sports complex off point and relocating a 200 foot Sky Coaster. Plus they just built the world's tallest dive coaster this year.

 

The Breakers expansion is for 2018... The sports complex isn't a huge expense for them, relocating a sky coaster is peanuts.

 

I'm still going with 2017. No RMCs announced, nothing has been announced in park. They are already working on Mean Streak and closed it early and teased it. 2017 seems logical

 

Ignoring the fact that as we keep saying it makes no sense from a marketing standpoint and they already announced their 2017 additions, Breakers won't be done until 2018 but it's an ongoing, expensive project as is the renovation at the other hotel which will be done in 2017 (I believe). As far as the sports park, do we know the details of who's paying for what? You're also ignoring the waterpark updates and expansion and the fact that they just built a huge expensive B&M this year. They've also made some infrastructure upgrades like the new water tower which I'm sure weren't cheap. They're already spending a ton of money.

 

I feel like the focus with the announcement for Soak City was to help distract from the closing of Geuaga Lake

 

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I like another "M" name for it... Marauder!

 

Also, if we're going with both them "honoring" Mean Streak's name, and also being cheap and saving an additional copyright on the name, how about "Silver Streak", and have the rails be a silver color? It could be "themed" (always a word used loosely at CP) to a silver mine in the old west, honor MS, and would look pretty sharp with the contrast between beige wood, and the silver track!

 

I'm still on the side of a 2018 RMC, primarily due to the marketing angle (and, sand is rapidly slipping through the hourglass.) However, I am not going to rule anything out yet at this point, and I think the most exciting news of the day is simply stone cold confirmation of an RMC coming to CP. I mean, this is a serious hallelujah, people!

 

Oh, in regard to the boat nonsense trying to start again...

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I'm wondering if maybe CP is going to try for a late season opening here.

 

They can use this to bolster 2018 pass sales, but also spike attendance in late Summer 2017... Probably unlikely, but just a thought. I just can't see major construction going on without an explanation.

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As far as the sports park, do we know the details of who's paying for what?

 

CP is paying very little for it. And with what they're charging for tournaments, they're gonna make a killing from it. From Sandusky Register

• $3.5 million: money from Cedar Point buying the former Griffing Sandusky Airport site and contributing it to the project

 

• $3 million: money from The Sports Force

 

• $17 million: money from local and state officials raising the countywide bed tax — also called the hotel-motel or lodging tax, it's a fee tacked onto overnight stays — rate by 2 percent

 

Guests staying at any hotel, motel or lodge within Erie County must pay 7 percent in tax, up from 5 percent.

 

Note: The Sports Force will be responsible for all maintenance costs once construction is completed.

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Actually, I'd guess 2017 based purely on a the early start, the lack of other RMC projects, and the fact that Cedar Point hasn't announced their in park additions yet.

 

Cedar Point is spending a ridiculous amount of money on additions already. They're currently making huge expansions to 2 hotels and expanding and renovating the water park all while a major RMC coaster project seems to be going on and they're building a sports complex off point and relocating a 200 foot Sky Coaster. Plus they just built the world's tallest dive coaster this year.

 

The Breakers expansion is for 2018... The sports complex isn't a huge expense for them, relocating a sky coaster is peanuts.

 

I'm still going with 2017. No RMCs announced, nothing has been announced in park. They are already working on Mean Streak and closed it early and teased it. 2017 seems logical

 

The announcement will be soon, they didn't announce Rougoru for 2 to 3 weeks after constant teasing.

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Ignoring the fact that as we keep saying it makes no sense from a marketing standpoint and they already announced their 2017 additions, Breakers won't be done until 2018 but it's an ongoing, expensive project as is the renovation at the other hotel which will be done in 2017 (I believe). As far as the sports park, do we know the details of who's paying for what? You're also ignoring the waterpark updates and expansion and the fact that they just built a huge expensive B&M this year. They've also made some infrastructure upgrades like the new water tower which I'm sure weren't cheap. They're already spending a ton of money.

 

I think it's a brilliant move from a marketing standpoint, to not announce it yet. The water park / resort upgrades will drive families, and us thrill junkies are pretty automatic once we hear the letters R M C. I'm also going to add, someone talked about a hybrid wooden coaster being promoted on the parks Fun TV, inside the park. Now, to answer some questions. The Sports park is being paid for mostly from a 2 percent increased bed tax for Eerie County. The park is only putting in 2 million (I want to say), as is Sports Force Park. The water park upgrade seems rather pedestrian for a park that's the size of Cedar Point. Even Carowinds, who had a larger expansion, added something inside the park, only a year after adding a coaster with twice the price tag of Valravn.

 

The water tower should have been on this years budget, or at least that's my best guess. Has nothing to do with next year. Infrastructure happens every year. These are minor things.

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Could someone tell me what the boat thing is, and explain why it's so annoying?

 

 

Fixed that for you.

 

But back in early December 2015, while the world record breaker, Valravn, was being constructed, many people were complaining shocker about people posting photos of the littlest things happen, I.e. track piece coming onto site, a bolt being tighten, the usually. So someone posted a photo from the webcam and said a long the lines of "as you can see, a boat is leaving the marina" and then that started the whole boat thing.

 

It went on all off-season.

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While I would love to see this built and open next year, I am in the camp that they would have already announced it to push passes for next year. 2018 all the way...and it will still open quicker than any coaster ever built at SFMM.

 

And yeah...still going with Hurler RMC at KD for 2018 as well. Don't think the Ghostrider treatment would be good enough to salvage this pile of dung coaster.

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Whatever it is, it will beat out Twisted Colossus in overall experience (do people still compare SFMM and CP? If not, sorry, late to the game here...)

 

I could see a double loading station (remember, CP cares about capacity), and a launch section after the lift portion gets low to the ground. No rumors here, just wishes! If they're going with RMC, they're gonna do it right.

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2018 all the way...and it will still open quicker than any coaster ever built at SFMM.

I'm not too sure about that...https://rcdb.com/615.htm

 

IIRC, Goliath was under construction most of the 1999 season.

Even if you discount Goliath, Batman opened in March...RIddler, Viper, and Scream all opened in April. Point is, not all SFMMs coasters open in July like some like to allude to

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Whatever it is, it will beat out Twisted Colossus in overall experience (do people still compare SFMM and CP? If not, sorry, late to the game here...)

 

I could see a double loading station (remember, CP cares about capacity), and a launch section after the lift portion gets low to the ground. No rumors here, just wishes! If they're going with RMC, they're gonna do it right.

 

I've been thinking/wishing for the same! Couldn't help but think a mini "Lightning Rod" section might come in to play (especially for the 2nd half of the ride). Maybe even a vertical loop (Son of Beast)? Initially conceived as a bigger, faster, longer answer to Texas Giant, I feel it's re-birth will do exactly the same re: current hybrid record holders. Like Texas Giant, there's so much (layout) to work with. I'm really looking forward to the renderings. From the looks of the pic below, it looks like they're wasting no time with deconstruction.

 

 

This summer I made my first trip ever to Cedar Point. I rode Mean Streak and I actually enjoyed 1 out of my 2 total rides. It's just such an imposing epic structure with a very traditional wooden coaster feel (including PTC's). It was no Ghostrider by any means (re: spleen damage & spine shanking, but also not a marathon candidate especially in the rear of the train. Looking forward to the updates, can't wait for next spring!

 

 

Mean Streak RMC - Predictions (No Limits)

 

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I can't help but think economically and logically in this case. Being SFOT is my home park and it took them over a year to do the Texas Giant renovation. I can only speculate that the timing of closing Mean Streak wasn't an accident. It might snow for 2 days here compared to how harsh winter is in Sandusky It's a delicate process as I watched them here in Texas, it'll probably take them all winter just to prepare and do the "minor" work that doesn't even involve installing track. We watched here back home as they built it all during a season for opening the following season. It makes sense from a business perspective that this will be in 2018, then it'll tidy all of us over until 2020 for their anniversary and for whatever they may have planned then. Let's be of sound reasoning and quit expecting so much so fast.

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I can't help but think economically and logically in this case. Being SFOT is my home park and it took them over a year to do the Texas Giant renovation. I can only speculate that the timing of closing Mean Streak wasn't an accident. It might snow for 2 days here compared to how harsh winter is in Sandusky It's a delicate process as I watched them here in Texas, it'll probably take them all winter just to prepare and do the "minor" work that doesn't even involve installing track. We watched here back home as they built it all during a season for opening the following season. It makes sense from a business perspective that this will be in 2018, then it'll tidy all of us over until 2020 for their anniversary and for whatever they may have planned then. Let's be of sound reasoning and quit expecting so much so fast.

I think it should be pointed out that NTG was a prototype design, and one with an intentionally slow build process. They were inexperienced with the new technology at the time, so they took baby steps. Twisted Colossus easily trumps NTG in terms of sheer size, scale, and intricacy, and was completed relatively (or at least comparatively) quickly. My prediction is that RMC Mean Streak opens in 2017, but not with the rest of the park at the beginning of the season. Unless they start hauling ass with construction, that is.

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