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If this doesn't confirm it for you guys I don't know what will. Every single transformation had these trucks that showed up early to get started.

 

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Until Cedar Point officially announces it there will be some people looking for evidence of any pic being photoshopped

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Until Cedar Point officially announces it there will be some people looking for evidence of any pic being photoshopped

 

Nobody is questioning anything at this point. We were just questioning it when all we had was a blurry picture from some random guy's Twitter account... as we should have been.

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I guess that does confirm it then, which is very good news!

 

Cedar Point handling of this is poor IMO. They had to know people would be watching the park for any signals of what's happening. They weren't going to be able to keep people from "snooping". Now, the official announcement will be less buzz worthy b/c it was leaked. The only buzz now is if they show rendering of the proposed new layout.

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The park has to be bummed about this.

 

They have been so tight lipped about the whole thing, and to have it spoiled by a simple oversight like a logo on a truck.

 

How? They teased it so much we all new it was going to happen. Richard Michael Crosby being very obvious for RMC. Also for the fact the trucks show up after the death of MS. If the trucks showed up before then I would agree. At this point we already knew RMC. However, we still have no idea what the track layout will be. In retrospect that will be the huge announcement. More then confirming RMC or GCI (my opinion).

 

 

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^ I have a hard time imagining they care that someone went out of their way to take a picture of some construction machinery. It's not like there wasn't already a pretty good idea of what was going to happen to Mean Streak.

And let's be honest... A lot of the clues they've been dropping have been pretty blatant. I think if anything it's helped fuel and focus the speculation leading up to the official announcement. By doing so, they're creating one narrative for people to engage with by following the (pretty obvious) clues. This allows them to control the dialogue and messaging that happens even when they have not made an official announcement. We all know Tony is a marketing genius, and this just feeds into that fact

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I don't think there will be any less interest in the announcement just because our suspicions have been confirmed. Most people(GP) who don't follow this stuff closely will find out about the plans from the announcement as they would have anyway. As others have said, I don't think the park is too worried about it as they have been dropping bread crumbs. People were analyzing FAA filings and hacking the Cedar Point app to glean information about Valravn...

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What a hilarious turn of events! Tell me more about the noise and jpeg artifacts please - I love all these conspiracies!

 

It's hilarious how anyone on here would ever think coaster enthusiasts are smart enough/would spend enough time to try and troll everyone with this. The first picture isn't even in a defined location - Why photoshop a picture into an indistinguishable dark place and then proceed give it's exact location where people can check it's legitimacy?..

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RMC shows up this quick. Does this bring any more hope of seeing this done for 2017? I've generally been firmly in the 2018 camp. But Cedar Fair can crank through putting rides up. Still, this is cutting it super close. We're only 7 months out from May. But I can't see them starting now to get it done for May 2018. That's a long time from now, granted this has to be a huge undertaking.

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RMC shows up this quick. Does this bring any more hope of seeing this done for 2017? I've generally been firmly in the 2018 camp. But Cedar Fair can crank through putting rides up. Still, this is cutting it super close. We're only 7 months out from May. But I can't see them starting now to get it done for May 2018. That's a long time from now, granted this has to be a huge undertaking.

 

I was on board with this being a 2018 project considering the lack of announcement (and Valravn opening this year), but with work starting this early I'm really starting to think it will actually be 2017! I'm always so surprised how quickly RMC works, I think we could be in for a treat!

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If it were a 2017 addition they would have announced it already to boost Season Pass sales during their Halloween event. It wouldn't make any sense to tease a much less impressive Soak City announcement now to drum up sales and wait until the park is closed to announce something infinitely more interesting.

 

My guess is that they closed Mean Streak early because it's an expensive ride to operate and it doesn't draw gate. Next year the construction will build anticipation and in 2018 I'm sure this thing will open to ridiculous fanfare and a big attendance boost (and they'll have the hotel rooms to handle it if that does end up being the case).

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RMC shows up this quick. Does this bring any more hope of seeing this done for 2017? I've generally been firmly in the 2018 camp. But Cedar Fair can crank through putting rides up. Still, this is cutting it super close. We're only 7 months out from May. But I can't see them starting now to get it done for May 2018. That's a long time from now, granted this has to be a huge undertaking.

 

 

maybe they'll challenge themselves and have extra staff. i'm always impressed with how much cedar point gets done over the winter.

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If it were a 2017 addition they would have announced it already to boost Season Pass sales during their Halloween event.

 

 

Right?! It being 2017 is BULL@$:&, good BULL$&@" but BULL!!!!.

 

Actually, I'd guess 2017 based purely on a the early start, the lack of other RMC projects, and the fact that Cedar Point hasn't announced their in park additions yet.

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If it were a 2017 addition they would have announced it already to boost Season Pass sales during their Halloween event. It wouldn't make any sense to tease a much less impressive Soak City announcement now to drum up sales and wait until the park is closed to announce something infinitely more interesting.

 

Plus we also have to think about how huge this project may be and the fact that winters suck. Look at Twisted Colossus. That took a long time, but they had great weather. I would say MS will be a bigger project (because of height, and how much may have to be removed). With that in mind, this (in my opinion) will be built durning next season as well. Personally I would love to see a coaster being built durning a season, bring attention to the park, and interest for the next season.

 

I think we will see some changes to Frontier Town next year, but the main change will happen in 2018. Could be wrong though.

 

 

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RMC shows up this quick. Does this bring any more hope of seeing this done for 2017? I've generally been firmly in the 2018 camp. But Cedar Fair can crank through putting rides up. Still, this is cutting it super close. We're only 7 months out from May. But I can't see them starting now to get it done for May 2018. That's a long time from now, granted this has to be a huge undertaking.

 

RMC in past years has had many projects. 2016 they had 4 coasters, 2013 thru 2015, 2 coasters each year. RMC has not announced any projects in 2017 possibly b/c Mean Streak is a massive job and CP wants it done for 2017. The renovation of Mean Streak is equivalent to doing 2 coasters in size and cost. Thus, RMC will deploy more crews to it rather than doing more projects.

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Actually, I'd guess 2017 based purely on a the early start, the lack of other RMC projects, and the fact that Cedar Point hasn't announced their in park additions yet.

 

Cedar Point is spending a ridiculous amount of money on additions already. They're currently making huge expansions to 2 hotels and expanding and renovating the water park all while a major RMC coaster project seems to be going on and they're building a sports complex off point and relocating a 200 foot Sky Coaster. Plus they just built the world's tallest dive coaster this year.

 

I don't think there's any reason to expect any major in-park additions for 2017. They're spending a pretty incredible amount of money already.

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If it were a 2017 addition they would have announced it already to boost Season Pass sales during their Halloween event. It wouldn't make any sense to tease a much less impressive Soak City announcement now to drum up sales and wait until the park is closed to announce something infinitely more interesting.

 

My guess is that they closed Mean Streak early because it's an expensive ride to operate and it doesn't draw gate. Next year the construction will build anticipation and in 2018 I'm sure this thing will open to ridiculous fanfare and a big attendance boost (and they'll have the hotel rooms to handle it if that does end up being the case).

 

Why wouldn't they keep it open for the rest of the season? They need construction vehicles this early - 21 months before it opens (05/18)?

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Maverick was announced in September. Gatekeeper was announced in August, Windseeker was announced in August, Rougarou was announced in September, Pipe Scream and Lake Erie Eagles were announced in August and for years every major Cedar Fair announcement has been made late in the season to drum up Season Pass sales during the Haunt Season.

 

This is the big promotion on the slider right now on their home page.

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They want you to buy a 2017 pass which is good for the remainder of this year too. If they're pushing those now don't you think they would announce their huge draw for 2017 instead of focusing on Valravn and Cedar Point shores? It would drive attendance next year and it would drive attendance for the Haunt Season since it includes a 2016 visit.

 

If it were a 2017 addition they would have announced it already to boost Season Pass sales during their Halloween event. It wouldn't make any sense to tease a much less impressive Soak City announcement now to drum up sales and wait until the park is closed to announce something infinitely more interesting.

 

My guess is that they closed Mean Streak early because it's an expensive ride to operate and it doesn't draw gate. Next year the construction will build anticipation and in 2018 I'm sure this thing will open to ridiculous fanfare and a big attendance boost (and they'll have the hotel rooms to handle it if that does end up being the case).

 

Why wouldn't they keep it open for the rest of the season? They need construction vehicles this early - 21 months before it opens (05/18)?

 

That I don't know. It could be because it's a huge job, it could be because Mean Streak is expensive to maintain and doesn't draw gate anyway and closing it now gave them a cool promotional kick off to their Halloween event all while cutting a little budget. I don't know, but having it be a 2017 addition makes no sense since they already announced their 2017 additions.

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Coasterbill, I think you bring up fair points, but we need to look at everything.

 

Evidence for a 2017 opening:

- Closing the coaster before the season even ends (just like every other RMC retrack)

- Having construction vehicles already showing up (way too early for a 2018 opening)

 

Evidence for a 2018 opening:

- They already announced next year's additions

- They usually announce stuff earlier than now

- Logical marketing timing

- They just opened a huge coaster this season

 

Weigh the evidence how you like, I'm personally going with 2017

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