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P. 2017: Top Thrill Dragster RETIRED!?!?!?

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I really like Dragster in any seat, and wouldn't recommend waiting for the front if the line is that much longer.

 

Just because I am curious. . . Were you dropped/thrown on your head as a child??

 

The front seat on TTD is the only place to sit.

 

You think there's only one row on TTD

 

There is only one row on Dragster.

 

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I've noticed the line for the front for TTD is noticeably shorter in the 2nd station. At least it has been almost all the times I've ridden.

I agree, I never ever go in the first station, I think its because people might think its only one train, and they need to get to the front of the station to get the front row. Also I think there is more queue space for the front row in the second station as well which makes it a little less messy.

 

And anyone who thinks that the front row is "not worth it" I took my friend to cedar point for the first time, we rode in a non-front seat ONCE. Every time we went in the front seat it was 30 minutes (and 25% of the time also down for maintenance) but it is completely worth it. I think cedar point should just retire the back 8 rows at this point,

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I don't know how people can stay in sh** hole hotels. I've seen too much sub-human nature to be able to comfortably stay in a $50 hotel room. I've seen the types of things that happen at some of these low budget heroin dens. This is why we have a Hyatt card which we use to pay for almost all of our expenses, before paying it off every month, and we rack up about 10 free nights a year with an annual cost of $75/year. If there's no Hyatt within driving distance we look for a Hilton or a Hampton. If all else fails, we'll very selectively choose a Holiday Inn. Make sure to read online reviews before choosing your hotel. Don't focus on the good reviews as much as the bad reviews. If we see that the majority of 1-2 star ratings have comments like "Four towels per day was not enough" or "Breakfast didn't include lactose free milk" we know we're probably good to go. Consistent reviews of "My room stunk" "The room was not clean" or "Dated rooms" are RED FLAGS. If you read anything at all about bugs STAY AWAY! Congratulations for saving $50/night when it will cost you thousands to properly exterminate a bed bug infestation while forever having an unclean feeling in your bedroom. While some people think $150.00 is expensive for a hotel room, peace of mind is priceless for me.

 

^^ To save money, we stayed at the Sandusky Rodeway Inn...Yikes!

 

On a return trip we did the KOA camping cabins for a few days, and was literally blown away on how peaceful it was.

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Police: Man on acid tries to tackle cop at Cedar Point

 

SANDUSKY — A Florida teen who was tripping on acid allegedly tried to tackle a Sandusky police officer at Cedar Point Monday afternoon.

 

Joseph Garofalo, 19, of Vero Beach, was charged with assault on a police officer, resisting arrest, and criminal damaging.

 

A Cedar Point employee near the Power Tower told officials that a disturbance broke out around 3:30 p.m., after Garofalo approached his drink stand, then began opening various beverages and drinking them.

 

Garofalo walked off, but returned a moment later and started spitting on the drinks, the employee said, according to a Sandusky police report.

 

Cedar Point police officers and Sandusky police Sgt. Kevin Youskievicz — who was working a special detail in the park — responded to the complaint.

 

When Youskievicz approached the stand, he spotted Garofalo leaning over the pop cart and throwing water on himself.

 

The officer identified himself as law enforcement and Garofalo immediately told him he was “tripping on acid” and kept asking for help, the report stated.

 

As they were waiting for Cedar Point EMS to arrive, Garofalo was agitated at times, then settled down.

 

At one point, Garofalo stared at the officer, jumped up from his seat and tried to grab him around the waist. The sergeant took Garofalo to the ground and handcuffed him, the report stated.

 

While medical personnel were attempting to transport Garofalo, he twice tried to make a run for it, officials said.

 

Eventually, he was taken to Firelands Regional Medical Center, where he was treated and released.

 

The Cedar Point employee claimed Garofalo's actions at the drink cart caused $313 worth of damages due to Garofalo “opening various drinks and spitting on the others,” the report said.

 

Garofalo was jailed overnight but has since posted bond.

 

Sandusky Register

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Police: Man on acid tries to tackle cop at Cedar Point

 

SANDUSKY — A Florida teen who was tripping on acid allegedly tried to tackle a Sandusky police officer at Cedar Point Monday afternoon.

 

Joseph Garofalo, 19, of Vero Beach, was charged with assault on a police officer, resisting arrest, and criminal damaging.

 

A Cedar Point employee near the Power Tower told officials that a disturbance broke out around 3:30 p.m., after Garofalo approached his drink stand, then began opening various beverages and drinking them.

 

Garofalo walked off, but returned a moment later and started spitting on the drinks, the employee said, according to a Sandusky police report.

 

Cedar Point police officers and Sandusky police Sgt. Kevin Youskievicz — who was working a special detail in the park — responded to the complaint.

 

When Youskievicz approached the stand, he spotted Garofalo leaning over the pop cart and throwing water on himself.

 

The officer identified himself as law enforcement and Garofalo immediately told him he was “tripping on acid” and kept asking for help, the report stated.

 

As they were waiting for Cedar Point EMS to arrive, Garofalo was agitated at times, then settled down.

 

At one point, Garofalo stared at the officer, jumped up from his seat and tried to grab him around the waist. The sergeant took Garofalo to the ground and handcuffed him, the report stated.

 

While medical personnel were attempting to transport Garofalo, he twice tried to make a run for it, officials said.

 

Eventually, he was taken to Firelands Regional Medical Center, where he was treated and released.

 

The Cedar Point employee claimed Garofalo's actions at the drink cart caused $313 worth of damages due to Garofalo “opening various drinks and spitting on the others,” the report said.

 

Garofalo was jailed overnight but has since posted bond.

 

Sandusky Register

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^^ To save money, we stayed at the Sandusky Rodeway Inn...Yikes!

 

^ Talk a about a heroin den - that Rodeway Inn on Sandusky Road is definitely one you want to steer clear of. We made that mistake about eight years ago when we couldn't find any hotels with rooms on the weekend and were just looking for a hotel with a room. While no bed bugs, there were ants in the windowsill of the bathroom, stained carpets and drug deals going on in the parking lots. Nasty!

 

And don't even bother with the hotel (Quality Inn, I believe) at the Thirsty Pony either as that's about as bad, only they charge you even more because you are at the causeway entrance. TP is a decent place to grab some beers and pub food, but the hotel and indoor "water park" is a POS.

 

Count me in as another one that has stopped trying to be frugal when it comes to staying in hotels. While Comfort Inn's and Holiday Inn's can be subjective depending on management, like Prozach said, spend the damned money and go for a Hampton or something nicer.

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^ Florida again. Yesterday was the flamingo. We need a wall.

 

What do you mean about needing a wall?

 

You mean four walls with rooms with bars on them for idiots that break the law? We already have those.

 

Edit - Sorry for the double post. Didn't mean to do that.

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Sorry, but I'm going against the grain again...

 

I always look for as cheap of a hotel/motel as I can get when I travel, and rarely have bad stays. I stayed at the Motel 6 right off the Turnpike earlier this year, in addition to newly opened Magnuson right near CP (formerly a Days Inn), and both were perfectly fine, and less than $50. I'll gladly take that savings, and invest in something more worthwhile in the park then (though not another waste of money, those blasted Fast Lane passes! ) If there ever is an issue, I'll simply make a note, and go somewhere else. Maybe "making it rain" on things like $100 hotels and Fast Lane works for single enthusiasts, or enthusiast couples with no kids. But when you're a lower middle class enthusiast with a four kids, it's a miracle simply being able to go anywhere at all after paying all the bills. I will say this: if I'm staying somewhere with my kids, I'll spend a little more than I would if I'm just going somewhere myself, or with some other friends. To each their own, but I think there are plenty of decent, low cost places to stay out there, and certainly no shortage near Cedar Point! (I'll be staying in a relatively new Motel 6 when I go next time, less than a 10 minute drive down Cleveland road from CP, which looks pretty nice!)

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I've seen a guy tripping on acid at SFOG. He was standing in the very center of the main plaza area spinning around and screaming total nonsense scaring everyone. Fun times. This event sounds extra classy though with the tackling of the officer and spitting in hundreds of dollars worth of drinks.

 

I hope someone filmed it.

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^^ To save money, we stayed at the Sandusky Rodeway Inn...Yikes!

And don't even bother with the hotel (Quality Inn, I believe) at the Thirsty Pony either as that's about as bad, only they charge you even more because you are at the causeway entrance. TP is a decent place to grab some beers and pub food, but the hotel and indoor "water park" is a POS.

 

Count me in as another one that has stopped trying to be frugal when it comes to staying in hotels. While Comfort Inn's and Holiday Inn's can be subjective depending on management, like Prozach said, spend the damned money and go for a Hampton or something nicer.

 

I believe that some of the Thirsty Pony Quality Inn building was torn down (I believe that tower was removed) in the off season and was replaced by a brand new Holiday Inn Express, which looks really nice from the outside. Google maps shows that both hotels exist and are connected to the Thirsty Pony, but it does not appear to have been updated since the new hotel opened. Maybe they wanted one cheap hotel and one nice hotel to expand their market base?

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Police: Man on acid tries to tackle cop at Cedar Point

 

 

 

The Cedar Point employee claimed Garofalo's actions at the drink cart caused $313 worth of damages due to Garofalo “opening various drinks and spitting on the others,” the report said.

 

 

 

Sandusky Register

 

 

So he had about 5 drinks...

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^^^ That's interesting that the Holiday Inn would be connected to the Thirsty Pony...is there another tunnel or hallway to it, or do you have to cross through the Quality Inn to get to it? Knowing that the two hotels are owned by two different companies, I would be surprised to see something like this.

 

^^^^^ I hear ya about the high cost of hotels. We used to do the same thing (although without kids) to be able to do more on more weekends. Now that we have been burned on some of the hotels like Super 8, Motel 6, Ramada Inn, etc...we try to avoid them and go the safe route with a Hampton Inn. Most of the time, they are only anywhere from $20-50 more per night - depending on where you are staying.

 

I will say that we stayed at the Motel 6 at the Rye Beach Road exit off of Rt. 2 when it was new. While the new decor was horrible to look at, the room was clean as was the hotel. Now that it's been open for several years, I can't say if that is still true or not. Be advised that you are VERY close to the railroad tracks though so if you stay on that side, keep the A/C running all night or you will wake up every time you hear the train whistle!

 

As Prozach said....be sure to read the online reviews first if you are going to go budget!

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I often go with budget motels when traveling alone, but like a few others have said, the recent negative reviews are very important to read. To throw another one out there, last summer I got a really good deal at the Econo Lodge across the street from the Thirsty Pony and had a good experience there. The location was about as good as you can get off the peninsula but for that quality of a motel I wouldn't pay their listed usual price. There are some cheap motels that are acceptable but unless you're careful you can really regret it, and I don't blame those of you who stay away from them.

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We signed up with choice hotels and signed up with Marriot. It gives us free rooms and points to redeem towards gift cards. We stay at Rodeway and Days inn alot. We can usually find decent 50 dollar a night rooms. Just read the reviews first. If you go to Cedar Point stay at Breakers Express. It includes your tickets and parking. Little pricey but worth it for the hour early entry

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I will say that we stayed at the Motel 6 at the Rye Beach Road exit off of Rt. 2 when it was new. While the new decor was horrible to look at, the room was clean as was the hotel. Now that it's been open for several years, I can't say if that is still true or not. Be advised that you are VERY close to the railroad tracks though so if you stay on that side, keep the A/C running all night or you will wake up every time you hear the train whistle!

 

As Prozach said....be sure to read the online reviews first if you are going to go budget!

 

Yes, that's the hotel I'm booked at for my trip in a few weeks! I thought it looked better than most Motel 6's, and the reviews were decent to good, for the most part. Somebody did mention the train noise as well though, so I'll be sure to do that trick with the A/C to help mitigate that!

 

I often go with budget motels when traveling alone, but like a few others have said, the recent negative reviews are very important to read.

 

We can usually find decent 50 dollar a night rooms. Just read the reviews first.

 

Like you all have suggested, I do read the reviews, and do a little research into the hotel before settling on that location. Particularly the recent reviews. I also always book through Expedia, using only Free Cancellation, and Book Now Pay Later hotels, so I can pretty much change my mind right up until a day or so before going. That's come in handy as I've decided against staying in some questionable hotels upon further reflection before!

 

To throw another one out there, last summer I got a really good deal at the Econo Lodge across the street from the Thirsty Pony and had a good experience there. The location was about as good as you can get off the peninsula but for that quality of a motel I wouldn't pay their listed usual price.

 

I used to stay there every time I went to Cedar Point, back in the early 2000's. However, the price point then was fantastic, we're talking in the $30-$35 range, so it made it a no-brainer to stay there right at the end of the causeway! Now that their prices have jumped way up, I don't stay there anymore, since you're right, it's not worth what you're paying at this point...

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I was actually surprised to see a Holiday Inn Express on the causeway when I went this year. Didn't even know it existed. I have always found it odd that the immediate area around the causeway doesn't have more big name hotels. The Route 250?Sandusky Mall corridor is such a pain to drive through.

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Eh. As far as me "making it rain" with hotel rooms, not so much. I pay a $75 annual fee for my Hyatt Platinum card where I get about 50,000 free points per year after putting a ton of my expenses on the card. Hyatt Places are where we usually stay and they are right around the 5,000 point range. Even the least impressive of all of the Hyatt Places we've stayed at are cleaner and nicer than your average hotel. The nicer hotels are the Regencies and Hyatt Houses are more expensive, ranging between 8,000-12,000 points. Destination resorts are around 20,000 points a night. Still, our annual cost = $75.00. Now, I have no idea what the interest rate is, because I don't have credit card debt, nor do I ever intend to. So, if you're the type of person who isn't as responsible with credit cards, you may want to stay away. Otherwise, I use the card to its full advantage, as we're sitting on about 100,000 points right now, or about 20 free nights at Hyatt Houses.

 

Occasionally there will be no Hyatt within range of where we're going, so we'll opt for a Hampton, Hilton, Marriott, Holiday Inn (selectively), etc. However, as Hyatt seems to be expanding expanding, this happens less and less. It was really neat when we went to KC in the Spring for WoF, because the Hyatt Place we stayed at had been open for less than a month. Judging by the way things looked, we think we were the first people to ever stay in our room.

 

As far as when we went to Cedar Point we stayed at a Hyatt Place in Cleveland and drove to CP the following morning. The next two nights we stayed at Breakers. If you want to talk about throwing money away, lets talk about Breakers. All perks aside, the rooms were very underwhelming compared to the Hyatt, at almost double the cost of what a normal Hyatt Place room would cost at normal rate. On the next visit we'll probably stay at the Holiday Inn. It was near Thirsty Pony, but I don't think I remember it being connected. It looked like a pretty decent hotel and it was brand spanking new, which is always a plus.

 

As said, nope I don't have kids at this point, nor will I for the next few years as long as things go according to the plan. When we eventually do have a kid (no plural) I still plan to stay at nicer hotels, even if that means less trips. I have seen far too much disgusting human nature carried out to not constantly position myself in areas which are exclusive to the types of 'clientele' I deal with. Trust me. Ignorance really is bliss. Enjoy some of the things you don't know or haven't seen. I'm not being a smartass when I say that. We're middle class too (cop and social worker), but due to my CFO (wife), I'm not hesitant to say that we're pretty good with the money we have. Our completely non extravagant affordable house is our only debt, aside from a small amount on her new car which will be paid off by the end of the year, as I don't buy cars that I won't be able to pay off within 6-12 months.

 

As far as the dude tripping on acid and tackling a cop? If that's the type of sh** that makes headlines, I'll gladly do a lateral transfer to CP PD. That's what I call a Tuesday in my neck of the woods...

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^ Talk a about a heroin den - that Rodeway Inn on Sandusky Road is definitely one you want to steer clear of. We made that mistake about eight years ago when we couldn't find any hotels with rooms on the weekend and were just looking for a hotel with a room. While no bed bugs, there were ants in the windowsill of the bathroom, stained carpets and drug deals going on in the parking lots. Nasty!

I stayed there a couple of nights ago and it was indeed a dump. Really filthy with a heavy disinfectant smell used to cover up dog-knows-what. It was comparatively cheap but it's one of just a few places that had me re-evaluating the extra expense of a slightly better room.

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The town of Sandusky in general looks like a sh** hole. I knows em when I sees em. Not too far off from the sh** hole I work in, except maybe less visible prostitutes and crack addicts in plain view. Thirsty Pony, although fun and delicious, didn't seem too far off from our empire of bars, each one of them with their little back door, or sometimes bar front, cocaine industry.

 

But Ain't that America? (John Cougar Mellencamp, anyone?)

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^^^A few remarks, in response, or clarification...

 

- I actually really like Hyatt Place hotels! The couple I have stayed in were both excellent, and a great example of what a non-resort hotel should be like! I often look to stay in one of them if I'm going into a higher price range. I'm not quite sure I understand how exactly you're getting free stays, but it sounds like you're using points from a credit card with a $75 annual fee. In which case, that's great! If I used credit cards, that'd definitely be one to look into.

 

- As I said, we don't use credit cards, and are a cash only family. As such, all trips require a tremendous amount of pre-planning, and setting aside money in advance, so they can happen. It's a good way for us to live and stay afloat financially, but it does come at a cost, as trips are fewer, and farther between... That's why I live vicariously through all of you here on TPR these days! lol

 

- Regarding "Ignorance is bliss", I wouldn't presume that our experience is that much different. Yes, as a Police Officer, you've no doubt seen more than I have, quantitatively, and also in the depravity department. However, I've seen quite a bit of the seedier side of life, working as a social worker for the past 18 years, the majority of that in an outreach capacity, that has made me quite familiar with all the darker corners of our rapidly declining city here. I know there's a lot of dreck that goes down in sub-par hotels, and I do try to investigate a place before going.

 

- My wife is a social worker too, but only part-time, due to the kids, and us wanting to save money on child care. So we're definitely on the low end of lower middle class, and it takes frugality, and plenty of financial gymnastics to get by!

 

- I agree with you 100% about Breakers Express! For the money, that is a drab, no-frills hotel. I went there once, back in 2003, and haven't been back since.

 

Regarding Sandusky, it really is a hole! Last time I was there, I went at night to that convenience store/Shell station on Cleveland road, near the causeway. Talk about a shady place! It was definitely a memorable experience! lol. (BTW, if you ever want some cheap, lower than bottom shelf Vodka, and you're down near The Point, they have a small display there, in spite of the fact they're very likely NOT licensed to sell liquor! lol)

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I actually really like Hyatt Place hotels!

 

I really like how some of the big dogs in the hotel game have mid-range, more affordable versions (Hyatt Place, Hilton Garden Inn, Courtyard by Marriott, Holiday Inn Express). They're great values and have a lot of the same high standards

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However, I've seen quite a bit of the seedier side of life, working as a social worker for the past 18 years, the majority of that in an outreach capacity, that has made me quite familiar with all the darker corners of our rapidly declining city here.

Ah! You have been in the trenches, then! You definitely have more exposure than most in that field. Emily did on call crisis evaluations for a couple years. She would get called out in the middle of the night and have to go to some of these dangerous and/or disgusting residences, so I know where you're coming from. She used her license to get a job with United Healthcare over this past year, so she's no longer involved in community counseling. It makes me happy knowing she doesn't have to go into the dangerous areas, anymore. As a matter of fact, she starts working from home tomorrow!

 

As far as the Hyatt Visa card goes, I'm telling you it's something to look into. Total respect for the cash family, as you don't get wrapped up in credit cards. It just sucks you miss out on some of the perks. I'd say literally at least 75% of our non mortgage expenses go through our Hyatt card and you get points for every expense. For eating out and groceries we get double points. A couple years ago we even put most of our kitchen remodel on the card, and if we do something like buy a new car we always put the maximum amount that you can on our card, etc. The trick is to pay it off each and every single month, which is easy to do because we have allotted cushion in our checking account. Since we've had the card for about five years and we've put so much money through it, we're at platinum status. This comes with more perks, like frequent food/beverage vouchers and the occasional suite upgrade just because. We also get a free anniversary stay at any of the properties each year, which we have a range of about 4 months during the warm season to use. It's not an exaggeration to say that each year we probably use well over $1,000 in rooms and perks for $75.00. Not to mention each year we accumulate more and more points that we don't use which roll over to the next year. Not only that, but we get a nice free hot breakfast which usually includes eggs, sausage, and fresh made breakfast sandwiches every morning after a stay. Seriously, we're cashing in on Hyatt... All of this for just using the Hyatt card to spend what we would normally use cash for. As long as it's zero'd out by the end of the month we don't pay a penny in interest, which we never have. They count on everyone to keep a balance and pay interest, but we're the factored in anomaly. We joke that somewhere on the expense report is an itemized list of company overhead cost with our names on it.

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As long as you have the fiscal responsibility to PAY THE BALANCE EVERY MONTH, credit cards are the best. Free money and points. SPG had the best card going for awhile, but now that Starwood is getting swallowed by Marriott, I assume the card is going bye-bye too. The IHG card has been OK for me, but the Marriott Visa is (IMO) choice. SPG Amex though is the GOAT travel card.

 

Also, if you're a Lansing resident, you're somewhat beholden to Delta (even though LAN is getting a lot of American flights), and the AMEX from them with free bags and Zone 1 is a nice pickup.

 

[also; quickly declining? is that what you call all those cranes and development along Michigan Ave.? OK.]

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