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I would have assumed it's just for the unique sensation, but has the advantage of a possible higher throughput. But really if the second section (after the tunnel) is longer than the first then it will make no difference at all. The sections are generally the time it takes to unload and load a train etc. so the throughput won't be increased much (if at all) by the LSM lift.

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Are you guys that are not overly impressed with the coaster at least a little bit excited that the park is going to make a serious attempt at theming? Atleast from what the video showed anyway.

 

I was more thrilled over the theming of this coaster then the ride itself, which I might add still looks very good.

 

I'm more than pleased that this park is doing more than dropping a good coaster between some trees or ontop of asphault.

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My take on the Liftlaunch: I'll count it. You all are forgetting the innitial launch that boosts it up to the actual lift hill. Also, there is a huge gap between the last piece of LSM and the tip of the hill. I'm sure the train would need to speed up to make it over that...

 

But lets adress the more important issue: EIGHT airtime-filled hills? There are only 6 hills on the entire ride. Unless they're including the corkscrews, which would be pretty sweet. Yay upsidedown airtime!

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But after the brakes slow it too a halt, you still need something to hold it there, unless the LSMs can do that as well, and what happens if the LSMs fail, or the power goes out?

I agree with that, there should be something to mechanically hold the train in case the LSM's fail, but I don't know for sure if they can do that. Does anybody else know?

Backup Generator. that's logical.
Unless there stupid, they would have a mechanical backup, not just a backup genarator, so the train won't roll back if the LSMs fail without the power cutting out.

 

They certainly will utilize the very same Intamin Foam Brakes that already have been seen on EGF, which are totally inert to power outage by nature.

 

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I am confused by the six trains- where are the blocks? One in load- one in unload- one in the 1st launch section- one in the 2nd launch section- where are the other two?

 

Your missing the final brake run and probably a holding area before the un-load area. I can see either a lot of stacking like TTD, or not running all six trains all the time.

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OK a few comments now that I actually watched the videos on the CP site.

 

* why do some of you insist that the ride is being themed well? I watched the overview and it doesn't look to be any more themed than, say Hydra or Talon. It looks well-landscaped - but to me, some fountains, trees and rocks don't constitute a theme job. As I know at least one person on this site can attest to.. I LOVE Dorney's mulch, but that to me doesn't mean they have "themed" their rides.. all my opinion of course. I mean even Disaster Transport at least seems more "themed" than Maverick to me...

 

* the second launch seems too much for me. Originally, I thought "cool, a ride that will be enjoyed by all, kinda like Powder Keg" but now I'm thinking... 70mph? Three inversions? A vertical drop? Will it REALLY be enjoyed by all? A question that I'm sure we will find out, but, thats not neccessarily a bad thing if you allow me to be greedy a bit

 

* Did anyone watch the "action shots" video? WOW that heartline roll will be taken fast, I am already feeling the pain. I'm not sure if the banked turns will be much better either after riding Storm Runner

 

So, after kinda thinking about it, I still think it looks fun and will be a nice addition, but I'm maybe not as excited as I was a day ago

 

 

- Joe

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* why do some of you insist that the ride is being themed well? I watched the overview and it doesn't look to be any more themed than, say Hydra or Talon. It looks well-landscaped - but to me, some fountains, trees and rocks don't constitute a theme job. As I know at least one person on this site can attest to.. I LOVE Dorney's mulch, but that to me doesn't mean they have "themed" their rides.. all my opinion of course. I mean even Disaster Transport at least seems more "themed" than Maverick to me...

 

 

Yes it's not up to par with Disney's themeing ,but it beats the hell out of Talon and Hydra. Talon has a generic station and some nice landscaping so does Hydra.

On Maverick the Rocks, the wood walls and the coal schute will provide some neat head-choppers that wouldn't be there otherwise. The waterspout over the barrel-roll will provide a neat effect, how you spin around it. The trains are steam era styled and are the colors of mined metals. But yeah, it's not Disney Quality but it will add alot more to the ride.

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* why do some of you insist that the ride is being themed well? I watched the overview and it doesn't look to be any more themed than, say Hydra or Talon. It looks well-landscaped - but to me, some fountains, trees and rocks don't constitute a theme job. As I know at least one person on this site can attest to.. I LOVE Dorney's mulch, but that to me doesn't mean they have "themed" their rides.. all my opinion of course. I mean even Disaster Transport at least seems more "themed" than Maverick to me...

 

 

Yes it's not up to par with Disney's themeing ,but it beats the hell out of Talon and Hydra. Talon has a generic station and some nice landscaping so does Hydra.

On Maverick the Rocks, the wood walls and the coal schute will provide some neat head-choppers that wouldn't be there otherwise. The waterspout over the barrel-roll will provide a neat effect, how you spin around it. The trains are steam era styled and are the colors of mined metals. But yeah, it's not Disney Quality but it will add alot more to the ride.

Don't think anyone really expect "Disney" quality, in fact, I'm not even sure why people would ever draw the comparison, not even "Universal" theming would be fair.

 

Compare it to something more on par like, let's say Roadrunner Express at SFFT, or even Italian Job or Tomb Raider and see how it stacks up. To me, this is more like Xcelerator's theming - you've got some themed trains, the station and the surrounding buildings has some theming, and there are random car parts littered throughout the course. There's really not much more than that.

 

I really don't understand why people are making a big deal out of the theming here when other new for 2007 coasters like Mystery Mine look to have more theming or landscaping than Maverick does.

 

--Robb

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Yes it's not up to par with Disney's themeing ,but it beats the hell out of Talon and Hydra. Talon has a generic station and some nice landscaping so does Hydra.

THe only ride that its up to par with, theming wise, is anything you can find in the paradise pier area. Although its a little better. Although the western town does look pretty good. But ride-wise, I'd still say no simply because there is not story to the ride. (yea, I read thier story, and thats not a real story behind the ride. You don't really experience, or see the story affect the ride really) But for a CF park, I'm very impressed with it.

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* Did anyone watch the "action shots" video? WOW that heartline roll will be taken fast, I am already feeling the pain. I'm not sure if the banked turns will be much better either after riding Storm Runner

 

Notice also that promo renderings and animationa are not always completely realistic. Kingda Ka's video didn't have brakes at the top and the launch was much shorter than in real life.

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I really don't understand why people are making a big deal out of the theming here when other new for 2007 coasters like Mystery Mine look to have more theming or landscaping than Maverick does.

 

--Robb

 

OK... I don't think anyone is debating that Mystery Mine is going to be themed worse than Maverick. I'm sure Mystery Mine will be themed much better than Maverick. But are you saying that Maverick can no way be considered good from a theming standpoint cause there is something better themed being built elsewhere?

 

Back to Maverick; since this is it's thread, I think the theming looks very good. In the videos anyway. They really look like they are going to "try" and provide a decent themed ride for once.

 

I'm making a big deal about this because I think that speaks volumes about the parks willingness to change and alter the typical game plan of the past twenty years; "we build big, fast and intense coasters and don't EVER expect much more than that". Cause that's the exact rap that park has garnered.

 

I really, really, really like the theming and the subsequent message they are going for on this. Plastic rocks and all.

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I really don't understand why people are making a big deal out of the theming here when other new for 2007 coasters like Mystery Mine look to have more theming or landscaping than Maverick does.

 

--Robb

 

Because... CP has so many fanboys... I mean it IS the best park on the planet, duh! Golden Ticket Awards don't lie!

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