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Dive Coaster?? Cedar Point breaking records???

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In all seriousness though, this looks like a fantastic ride. I really like the color scheme and can't want to see how this transforms the Marina entrance & Blue Streak midway. Should be a huge hit with the GP and a great addition to CP's stellar lineup.

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I am VERY happy with this announcement, and I love the trains and the layout. I do wish, and this is just me being picky, that the track could be pink or purple or black or something like that. Now Cedar Point just needs to give RMC keys to Mean Streak and I'm set!

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I mean, even Millennium Force has a "toaster oven" station, fairly basic trains, and nothing really out on the course

 

I normally agree with you but I have to step in here...

 

Millennium Force is a highly themed journey back in time to an island filled with dinosaurs. The name makes perfect sense too as they never specified which Millennium they were referring to. Everyone misses the theme because they incorrectly assume they were talking about this Millennium.

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I mean, even Millennium Force has a "toaster oven" station, fairly basic trains, and nothing really out on the course

 

I normally agree with you but I have to step in here...

 

Millennium Force is a highly themed journey back in time to an island filled with dinosaurs. The name makes perfect sense too as they never specified which Millennium they were referring to. Everyone misses the theme because they incorrectly assume they were talking about this Millennium.

This made me

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I mean, even Millennium Force has a "toaster oven" station, fairly basic trains, and nothing really out on the course

 

I normally agree with you but I have to step in here...

 

Millennium Force is a highly themed journey back in time to an island filled with dinosaurs. The name makes perfect sense too as they never specified which Millennium they were referring to. Everyone misses the theme because they incorrectly assume they were talking about this Millennium.

This made me

 

My vision of this ride had been infinitely expanded.

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I still think all of the records stuff is kind of silly considering that there are only like what 6 dive coasters in the world? Especially silly when you think about the fact that this is world tallest Dive Coasters, yet another coaster in the same park has a vertical drop that is almost twice as tall.

 

 

Besides the silly records it does look like an awesome addition. Despite what people think about B&M's these days the Dive Machines have always been really fun coasters that look incredible in person. Yeah there isn't much theming to this thing but who cares, the whole entrance plaza and area around the ride looks great in the concept art. Should be a nice addition to their collection.

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I mean, even Millennium Force has a "toaster oven" station

Now that made me laugh.

The ride seems pretty cool. These coasters are always short but at least this one manages to pack more inversions and does something different after the MCBR. Looks like great fun!

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Surely the capacity on this is going to be appalling compared to the brilliant operations on GateKeeper and Raptor.

 

3x24 seat trains is low for a dive coaster of this size. Griffon's trains hold 30 and Oblivion at Alton Towers runs 7x16 seat, and dual loads...

 

Why no dual loading? And why only 8-across trains? And why only 3?

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Surely the capacity on this is going to be appalling compared to the brilliant operations on GateKeeper and Raptor.

 

3x24 seat trains is low for a dive coaster of this size. Griffon's trains hold 30 and Oblivion at Alton Towers runs 7x16 seat, and dual loads...

 

Why no dual loading? And why only 8-across trains? And why only 3?

You do know, when you dual load one train will sit outside the station until cleared to take the lift. So, who's to say they cant crank the trains just as fast. I think appalling is a stretch of a word to use.

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I still think all of the records stuff is kind of silly considering that there are only like what 6 dive coasters in the world? Especially silly when you think about the fact that this is world tallest Dive Coasters, yet another coaster in the same park has a vertical drop that is almost twice as tall.

Why build Maverick, with a 70 mph launch, when they had Dragster with a 120mph launch? The difference is in the ride. Varavn is MILES different than Dragster, so sharing only steepness in drop is vaguely relevant. Also there are 10 dive coasters now, 3 US, 4 Europe, and 3 in Asia.

 

Besides the silly records it does look like an awesome addition. Despite what people think about B&M's these days the Dive Machines have always been really fun coasters that look incredible in person. Yeah there isn't much theming to this thing but who cares, the whole entrance plaza and area around the ride looks great in the concept art. Should be a nice addition to their collection.

I too am liking the new midway's look. I like how CP is going with more curved paths now, I think the new Gemini midway looks immensely better after its transformation.

 

I wonder if this coaster will have an epic Valravn bird next to its signage? Maybe a larger version of Dollywood's Wild Eagle statue.

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So it's finally official! My thoughts...

-Aside from the traditional sitdown, the Dive Machine is B&M's only offering I haven't been able to try yet. I am certainly looking forward to this one, since I doubt I'll be able to ride a different one before this one opens.

-I love the GateKeeper/Banshee restraints, so count me as someone who loves the train design.

-Add me to the party who is happy that Blue Streak's corner is no longer a dead end. The new Marina Entrance area looks great; the rendering does appear to show a new building after all...so that just leaves the Soak City entrance.

-I'm guessing Dive Machines eat people up as much as any other B&M? That's not a lot of queue space...and if that means short lines...bring it on!

-Just looking at the overview here...

...can I put in guesses for the empty spaces in the background? I know it's WAY too early to speculate on what Cedar Point will do after this, but for some reason, I can see a Sky Roller like the one Canada's Wonderland is getting in that spot to the left of the first drop. Also, that space behind the second immelmann looks like it has "future Haunt building site" written all over it.

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^^^^Honestly I joke but this ride might be slightly okay with wind.

 

Not always, but more often than not the wind blows from the bay, which is a huge problem for Raptor as the train approaches the mid course, Dragster as the train tries to crest the tower and Gatekeeper because most of the first half of the course with the tallest elements are going right into the wind. It's no surprise that those 3 coasters close first.

 

This ride really doesn't spend a ton of time directly fighting the wind. The turn into the mid course is the only area of concern but when it straightens out it's facing a direction where wind is rarely an issue.

 

That doesn't mean they won't close it in the wind anyway, but I don't see this closing down with that first group (Gatekeeper, Raptor and Dragster). As for rain, it's up in the air. I'm sure they'll add it to the rain policy wheel and then it all depends what happens when they spin it. Some days it will probably be able to safely operate in the rain, other days it'll probably close in a light drizzle.

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