Six Flags Enthuseast Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 Well, *IF* it isn't a coaster, but a new thrill ride, I'd say somewhere around either a Zamperla Mega Disk'O or (despite its unpopularity and downtime) an S&S Sky Swat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcg19 Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 (edited) Deleted by user Edited December 29, 2010 by rcg19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfan93 Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 HE IS BRINGING BACK VERTIGO!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cprocks22 Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 ^^ Your post reminded me to check the blog...and it has begun http://www.cedarpoint.com/public/fun/blog/2010/7/11/That_Poll....cfm Heres a link to the poll in question: http://www.cedarpoint.com/public/fun/poll/index.cfm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CPmaverick Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 I changed my mind. The new attraction is clearly going to be a bronze statue of Tony & Tyler. Everyone knows how thrilling statues are, so I guess Kinzel was right . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelTheFORCE Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 This is regarding if they build a wooden coaster... I have always wondered, though, what constant moisture exposure and sandblasting would do to a wooden structure over time? If it has a significant impact (I don't know if it would or wouldn't, just speculating), then they might be limited to using a steel structure, like Great White, Voyage, or Ravine Flyer II (which isn't a bad thing, heck Timberliners might even be used). So unless Intamin or GCI can use steel structures also, that could automatically rule them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Six Flags Enthuseast Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 HE IS BRINGING BACK VERTIGO!!!!!!! Oh yeah... Duh! Being the S&S Fanboy, I should've known! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skycoastin Steve Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 ^^I really wonder how much sand blasting actually occurs on that beach. I don't think I've ever seen the wind kick up that much sand before, although then again, I've never been there in the offseason. There are other wooden coasters on sandy beaches, so I would have to think that a wooden structure would be ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FeelTheFORCE Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 ^ Gemini and Mine Ride (and even Blue Streak and Mean Streak for that matter) aren't anywhere near sand. This one would be built literally right on (or within a few feet of) a beach. ^^ I don't recall one instance standing in line for Wicked Twister where the wind was calm. It's ALWAYS windy in that area. Now, like you said, how much sand is kicked up is unknown, but it's definitely not something to overlook. There are other wooden coasters on sandy beaches, so I would have to think that a wooden structure would be ok. Not too many from what I've found. The only one I could find via RCDB is Giant Dipper at the Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk, and even then it's still slightly set back from the beach. Another one that comes to mind is Great White in Wildwood, but that has a steel structure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skycoastin Steve Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 ^I realize it's windy, but I've never been in the middle of anything you could describe as even a mild "sandstorm." The Giant Dipper at Belmont is right on the beach, too, and it's pretty close to the sand. If the structure of Boardwalk Bullet could survive a hurricane (albeit with some damage), I think anything on the Lake Erie beach would be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrillrider Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 There are a lot of wooden coasters on the water... Boardwalk bullet(kemiha boardwalk) Great white(moreys piers) And another wooden coaster in the works. swamp fox(family kingdom) gwazi(not far from the water) busch gardens tampa Plus the ones mentioned already, and several that used to be on the water at defunct parks like the rocket at oceanview park. The main reason that disaster transport was enclosed, was because of sand getting in the track. But that's a type of ride where sand could collect easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelTheFORCE Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 There are a lot of wooden coasters on the water... Boardwalk bullet(kemiha boardwalk) Great white(moreys piers) And another wooden coaster in the works. swamp fox(family kingdom) gwazi(not far from the water) busch gardens tampa Plus the ones mentioned already, and several that used to be on the water at defunct parks like the rocket at oceanview park. The main reason that disaster transport was enclosed, was because of sand getting in the track. But that's a type of ride where sand could collect easily. I wasn't talking about on water, I meant directly on a beach, there's little to no sand when there's no beach. Boardwalk Bullet has no sand, Great White has a steel structure, Swamp Fox has no sand, and the Hillsborogh River probably has about as much effect on Gwazi as the Monongahela River does on Kennywood's wooden coasters. Maybe there's a reason why those coasters are defunct? Regarding Disaster Transport, whether it can collect easier on that ride or not, that's still proof that sand is blowing around, and enough of it for that matter to have an effect on a ride. ^^ Yeah, I guess. California's wooden coasters are also built to withstand earthquakes, so with our technology, a little sand might not be anything to worry about. Maybe, at the worst, it would just raise maintenance costs, and perhaps Cedar Fair is well aware of that already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadster Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 I will laugh if they put in a wacky worm.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrillrider Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 Sand would have no effect on a wooden coaster structure...weather it be steel or wood. The only problem I could possibly see, is an issue with sand setting on the tracks. There are plenty of steel coasters on beaches/ water, so I doubt that is much of an issue. The defunct park I spoke of, was not closed because of the coaster having issues, it was closed because the park was out dated and very small. People just did not visit the small seaside parks as much once the mega parks started popping up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelTheFORCE Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 Like I said, it could possibly raise maintenance costs, but Cedar Fair would already know this and be well prepared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandaman Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 Sand would have no effect on a wooden coaster structure...weather it be steel or wood. The only problem I could possibly see, is an issue with sand setting on the tracks. There are plenty of steel coasters on beaches/ water, so I doubt that is much of an issue. Pretty sure that's why they enclosed Avalanche Run and made it Disaster Transport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrillrider Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 Disaster transport was enclosed because sand was building up inside the track. A typical wooden coaster does not have a trough as a track like a bobsled coaster does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKSIRYDOC Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 Disaster Transport was welcoming sand, it was like a giant sand trapper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathbydinn Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 Who really thought it would be a good idea to put a bobsled right by sand?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin0274 Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 Cedar Point needs to build the tallest and fasted GCI/B&M hybrid flying multilooper wooden launched coaster that circles the entire park with multiple underwater tunnels. Well, atleast the GCI part would be amazing, especially if it were their tallest creation yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Six Flags Enthuseast Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 Who really thought it would be a good idea to put a bobsled right by sand?! Remember that a LOT of people were on crack in 1990. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamez Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 It should be noted that almost all of Magnum is built on sand by the beach. It runs just fine folks. I doubt sand will be a problem for any major coaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPmaverick Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 I don't know if DT was enclosed because of sand but Magnum and most other coasters have gaps between the track. DT is a completely closed trough, allowing sand that blows on top of the coaster nowhere to go. I do know that many places around Lake Erie put up sand fences durning the winter so blowing sand must be a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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