prozach626 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 It's time for you to get a new hobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boldikus Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 It's a liberty that that is being taken away. Haha you can't be serious. Listen I'm with you guys - assigned seating is lame. But when ya'll start saying ridiculous sh*t like picking your seat is a "liberty that is being taken away" lmao. Dramatic much? It never was a liberty. Parks are private property and they can enact any rule they want. Some parks don't allow you to pick your row on anything, some don't care at all. Groupers are just doing their jobs, which exist specifically to make the line move faster, and they've been around for as long as theme parks have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garet Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Maybe I'm just used to Asian parks but I've been to so many parks where you don't get a choice of row and the fact people react like this in a hobby that's for fun is just weird to me. Yes, some seats are better but it's not enough for me to fly off the handle and let it wind me up this much. I've done trips where I might not go to those parks again or for a long while waited for almost an hour for Hair Raiser at Ocean Park (single rider line was closed) and probably the same for Draken at Gyeongju World and both times the staff would assign every-one to keep the line moving. Sure I had a place I wanted to sit but at the end of the day that's the person (probably with orders from higher-ups) to keep the line moving and get as many people through as possible. It’s not enough to ruin my ride or day at the park to still be upset by the time I get home and am writing on TPR It's a liberty that that is being taken away. That's the issue IMO. And like I said before I understand why they do it on a ride like SV which always has a long line. But when the back is open, nobody there, letting my friend and I go to the back instead of row 5 has no impact on how the line moves. On Wednesday when I was assigned a row on Raptor the line was 10 minutes long... And I'd gladly wait an extra 10-15 minutes if it means I get to pick my row. Like I said, most of my experience is Asian parks. There’s no real entitlement here or liberties. If the staff want to assign seats you take that seat. If the line is empty or you see an empty seat you almost never stay on or hop in, you walk around and go through the queue again. If you have a season pass, you don’t get early entry or preview the ride days, your reward for having a season pass is just going in for free. I’ve been posting Korea updates here and met a few enthusiasts and their attitudes are very different. There aren’t any enthusiast events like coaster mania or Holinights and I don’t think I’ve even ever seen a media day. A couple of people have quite a lot of followers and they cover everything out of their own money because they want to and enjoy it. They even don’t rush to cover new rides first (at least the ones I’m willing to meet again) to avoid huge lines. From the huge bloggers to normal guests everyone is the same. You show up have fun and just accept what the staff say. You just enjoy what your given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfBobs Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 It's a liberty that that is being taken away. Haha you can't be serious. Listen I'm with you guys - assigned seating is lame. But when ya'll start saying ridiculous sh*t like picking your seat is a "liberty that is being taken away" lmao. Dramatic much? It never was a liberty. Parks are private property and they can enact any rule they want. Some parks don't allow you to pick your row on anything, some don't care at all. Groupers are just doing their jobs, which exist specifically to make the line move faster, and they've been around for as long as theme parks have. I'll have to agree with this one. Nothing you do at a park is a "liberty." You are a customer and are expected to follow their rules and policies. Don't like it? Don't go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkTums Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Pretty sure the founding fathers wrote about this: "Life, choosing your own row at Cedar Point, and the Pursuit of Happiness" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Too Fast For Comfort Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 If you've driven two hours to visit the park for the third time this season, fair play. If instead you've traveled halfway across the planet having saved and saved and saved for years to make the trip, then with all due respect, f**k the ride op's power trip and let me ride Raptor's back b*stard row already, thanks. This is exactly the sort of thing that would make me hesitate to visit the park. Maybe I'm just used to Asian parks but I've been to so many parks where you don't get a choice of row and the fact people react like this in a hobby that's for fun is just weird to me. Yes, some seats are better but it's not enough for me to fly off the handle and let it wind me up this much. I've done trips where I might not go to those parks again or for a long while waited for almost an hour for Hair Raiser at Ocean Park (single rider line was closed) and probably the same for Draken at Gyeongju World and both times the staff would assign every-one to keep the line moving. Sure I had a place I wanted to sit but at the end of the day that's the person (probably with orders from higher-ups) to keep the line moving and get as many people through as possible. It’s not enough to ruin my ride or day at the park to still be upset by the time I get home and am writing on TPR And people forget that its all a zero sum game when you pick seats. If you wait longer for the front or back, it means another person won't get that seat, or will have to wait an insane time just to get a crack at it. Assigning seats leaves it up to chance and fate. Everyone gets an equal crack at the preferred seats, but nobody has to wait an insane time just for it. It pisses me off when I see a coaster that's a walk-on running empty seats, but the front row as a 5 train line. The policy should at minimum be that all seats get filled up before front row requests are taken. Ultimately, its actually not hard to just take requests for the front. Most rides that use grouper and keep their row lines clean will keep extra queuing space for the front, and take front requests. Usually its only the front or back people care about. They don't care about row 3 vs. row 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boldikus Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Pretty sure the founding fathers wrote about this: "Life, choosing your own row at Cedar Point, and the Pursuit of Happiness" Basically Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharkTums Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 I just want to throw it out, that I agree it's stupid not to allow people to choose their own seats (in most situations), but if it's the park policy or that's what an op says, you have to just deal with it as that's life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defrocker Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 It pisses me off when I see a coaster that's a walk-on running empty seats, but the front row as a 5 train line. Wait, this pisses you off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewA86 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Wow, I think my “liberty” comment has been taken out of context just a little bit. All I meant is that we have had the freedom to pick a row forever, and now we don’t. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prozach626 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 I would guess that you have the freedom to not visit the park or to pick a different chain. Who knows. On that note, when we went to the park a few weeks ago I had no issues picking a seat or being granted a seat when I asked. But, seeing as how we waited a couple minutes to ride when the majority of people waited about an hour, I mostly never cared to ask. I definitely didn't bother asking for SV. Aside from maybe Valravn, I try not to let my assigned seat ruin a 120mph launch, a 300 foot drop, or keyholes over the front gate. Don't sweat the small stuff. Enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonlocke Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 I’ve been here the last 2 days and rode every major coaster multiple times and asked every time for a specific row (front or back) and every time my request was honoured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bert425 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 ^ that's because you're Canadian. you get guaranteed healthcare and Liberty to Choose your own coaster seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nrthwnd Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 (edited) ^ They must know it's our Canada Day Weekend. Edited June 28, 2019 by Nrthwnd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diggerg56 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 A little off the path from the original post but are there still any parks that don't allow single riders in the back row? I used to come across this now and then but can't remember the last time it happened. They always said it was a liability thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasternut Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 A little off the path from the original post but are there still any parks that don't allow single riders in the back row? I used to come across this now and then but can't remember the last time it happened. They always said it was a liability thing. Six Flags Over Texas in Arlington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pǝʇɹǝʌuı Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 A little off the path from the original post but are there still any parks that don't allow single riders in the back row? I used to come across this now and then but can't remember the last time it happened. They always said it was a liability thing. I believe Lagoon doesn't allow single riders in the front or back rows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darthtater Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Is Valravn open? My cousins came up from Texas and are going to CP tomorrow. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjr19 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Is Valravn open? My cousins came up from Texas and are going to CP tomorrow. Thanks! I was going to say probably not, but it appears it’s actually open again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christianscoasters Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 I was there yesterday and the trains were being taken out of the storage area and one car was sitting on the ground with a tarp over it. I doubt it’s open today. The queue times site isn’t always accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbill Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 The park occasionally posts weird “operational” status on rides that aren’t but it usually goes away fast. The ride is back to showing closed. Wait until there’s actually a number there before getting excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crw16 Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Anything on the 2020 rumor mill being its about a month away from unveils? Cant see them stepping on KI's giga but i assumed we'd see something for the 150th.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prozach626 Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 (edited) i assumed we'd see something for the 150th.... Here we go again. Edited July 1, 2019 by prozach626 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmyUD06 Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 You assume incorrectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowieP Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Is Valravn open? My cousins came up from Texas and are going to CP tomorrow. Thanks! I was going to say probably not, but it appears it’s actually open again! Was there yesterday. It wasn't open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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