coasterlover420 Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 Scream!=Mirror of Medusa B&M=not over 300 feet Batman--how may are there? not to mention S:UF! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeemerBoy Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 I heard from the Dippin' Dots guy that they are adding onto Dragster. They are adding a chain lift in place of the launch and having it go over to that side of the park Or not.. it'd be less problematic though! Eric Eric, after you finished talking with him, he told me that it would also spend almost two minutes under water!! Devastator-style! Amazing how many miss the sarcasm....next time you post like that, give the over/under on how many will pick up on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DATman Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 ^^How bout the collosus clones (minus a few heartlines), the impulses don't seem very unpredictable, How many of them are different? Oh, about 1 or 2. Clones say NOTHING about the companies that make them. They are the fault of the companies that buy them. Six Flags is responsible for Scream. OMG! Vekoma doesn't go over 300 feet. It MUST be predictable now! Same with Arrow, S&S, KumbaK, Zamperla, and a few others. So basically, in your opinon, almost every coaster companay is predictable? As for Batman, once again, the companies that buy them. S:UF seemed pretty unpredictable when it came out. When it was cloned, once again, SF's fault. B&M isn't that predictable. It all depends on what companies want from them. Tatsu is pretty predictable though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterlover420 Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 Then all the blame goes to SF!! ^^That was HILARIOUS!! "One minute we were laughing, and then he just DIED!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twister II Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 Looking around, it could be either. Personally, I think it would be a looping. BUT, also observe: -The small footprint would be great for an Aqua Trax. -The track, all triangular, for looping. Some of the Aqua Trax is rectangular. HOWEVER: -It would be kinda weird having this random building in the middle of Frontier land 'water' themed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStig Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 EDITED WITH BETTER SPELLING!!!!!!!!! ^^First off I started a topic about that, how did ANYBODY miss it? Secondly, I think that neither B&M or Intamin build "predictable" rides. Rather, they build what the parks have space for. If a park wants a 7 inversion invert, do you think that 5 of the inversions are going to be loops? They are trying to build a 7 invert coaster using as many elements as they can, and apparently they work in a certain order that shows up a lot. That’s not predictable, its original if anything. Intamin on the other hand, they built I believe 3 of the same type impulse coasters in one year all for six flags. I mean think about it, do you think its cheaper to build 3 of a kind rides for your parks or build 3 completely original impulse coasters. Same goes for all the B:TR's and SUF's. Clones are cheap, and Im sure that if you asked a ordinary person at a park how many BTR's there are, I don’t think he/she would know. Intamin also builds they're multi inversion coasters like anybody else would. Fit as many different elements as they can over the course of the ride, but just because you see them on other Intamins doesn’t make it a bad coaster. I mean come on, do you expect them to invent 10 new inversions for every coaster they build? Same goes with TTD and Kingda Ka. TTD WORKED at that height, why build a completely original coaster when you already know that a previous designed successfully worked at that height. In this case, they improved on the layout a bit, but the ride is still generally the same. I hope that makes some sense to you guys! Colin C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollermonkey Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 ^ SPELL CHECK. Please? That'd help people understand you. I get your point. Yes, parks are typically more to blame for clones than the manufacturers. Vekoma does tend to market their line up as predesigned rides, and customizing those rides is an option for the park. The real point is parks are in the business of making money, and the GP is where most of that money comes from, not us enthusiasts. So if it's cheaper to plunk down a boomerang in stead of a custom multi-inversion B&M, a park is likely to choose the boomerang. They still get to say they added a coaster, and to the GP it still 'goes upside-down'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnage Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 BUT, also observe: -The small footprint would be great for an Aqua Trax. -The track, all triangular, for looping. Some of the Aqua Trax is rectangular. 1) only a small amount of track is on site. So you can't assume it's all triangular. and 2) Have you been to the park yet? The footprint is not small by any means. It covers a very large amount of land. There's already ALOT of footers in place, and more are getting poured all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterlover420 Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 I've never even heard of an Aquatrax. Does anyone know of any concept art or a previous one that got built? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beber Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 There actually is only one Aquatrax on the world Atlantis Adventure, Lotte World Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelTheFORCE Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 BUT, also observe: -The track, all triangular, for looping. Some of the Aqua Trax is rectangular. that doesnt mean anything, MF has triangular track in some areas and as we all know it doesnt loop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twister II Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 BUT, also observe: -The small footprint would be great for an Aqua Trax. -The track, all triangular, for looping. Some of the Aqua Trax is rectangular. 1) only a small amount of track is on site. So you can't assume it's all triangular. Well of course. But from all of the pictures that I've seen, I still haven't seen 1 piece of rectangular track. 2) Have you been to the park yet? The footprint is not small by any means. It covers a very large amount of land. There's already ALOT of footers in place, and more are getting poured all the time. Yes, I have been to Cedar Point. A lot of footers mean nothing. However, the area by the previous large log flume and swan boats, wasn't considerably big when you look at the size of other Cedar Point coaster lands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okinawaboy11 Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 Ha! The people over on the Atari forums are still in the, "They are going to Extend TTD" phase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesdillaman Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 BUT, also observe: -The small footprint would be great for an Aqua Trax. -The track, all triangular, for looping. Some of the Aqua Trax is rectangular. 1) only a small amount of track is on site. So you can't assume it's all triangular. Well of course. But from all of the pictures that I've seen, I still haven't seen 1 piece of rectangular track. 2) Have you been to the park yet? The footprint is not small by any means. It covers a very large amount of land. There's already ALOT of footers in place, and more are getting poured all the time. Yes, I have been to Cedar Point. A lot of footers mean nothing. However, the area by the previous large log flume and swan boats, wasn't considerably big when you look at the size of other Cedar Point coaster lands. It seems pretty large to me for an aquatrax... oh well, I know nothing compared to someone with a roman numeral in their TPR handle... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECZenith Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 The clue 'get ready for some serious sidewinding' as seen on signs in the construction are make me believe it will at least have an average number of inversions. I'm going with an Intamin multilooper, and with CP's history, they'll probably launch the thing somehow, hopefully with lindear induction motors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noobitizer Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 Im still going to stick with this coaster maybe being a variation of the Intamin Ball Coaster. Fingers Crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Sabo Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 Does the Colossus ride (England or Europe?) ten inversions? I now may change my idea (from Aquatrax) towards another ride similar to Colossus now. It may/may not break the inversion record, but I assume that CP may have a new wrinkle up their sleeve as Intamin may have added a new inversion element to there arsenal. (Serious Sidewindin') Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockman89 Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 The "sidewindin" sign makes me think Cedar Point is going to break the inversion record with a lot of zero-g rolls... making this more of a flat ride than a coaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinb Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 You have to remember that Colossus (Thorpe Park) doesn't have that much triangular track, the only bits that are triangular are: Loop, Cobra Roll & 2 Corkscrews. If it is to be in Intamin Looper, I would have prefered them to go for B&M, Intamin loopers just don't look that impressive, where as B&M's look awsome, and another point, Colossus is only 4 years old and its in a terrible state. Who can say that about a B&M? But theres not much that can be done as they've gone for Intamin. -Martyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesdillaman Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 Sidewindin' may refer in fact to the intamin shuffling of the trains as it goes through certain elements... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trustkill22 Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 I'm really starting to think that it is going to be a Intamin Looper just for the fact that it is triangular track and also it seems that the track is always bent pieces. And don't they use rectangular tracks for higher speeds and triangular then 2-tube and so on and also with the forces the track get stronger so. Thats what i'am really starting to think its going to and also those hints aren't going to exactly give out anything special. They usually lead to what the rides name is and what the theme is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterlover420 Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 More track is arriving offsite! All triangular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steel Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 I think I can clear this up. This is my post from ThrillNetwork: Dude, it's a combination wooden-spinning-4D giant frisbee-inverted-standup-flying-floorless-looping-hydaulic-compressed air-LIM-LSM-cable lift-traditional lift-suspended-SLC-ball coaster themed around broccoli. Duh. Seriously, though, I'm leaning toward a coaster with multiple loops. I'm still trying to work out "new direction." We still don't know how literal that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HCOSurfer90 Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 Now I'm leaning towards a looper, but it seems as if it will have lots of turns and curves since almost all the track so far are curved pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterdude5 Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 I believe "new direction" means that they were going for height and now they're going for inversions. Just a guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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