blakelemay23 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 We live a short life and people would rather dumb down their own race to have money and credibility instead. Only thing to do ---> IMO <--- is spread the truth louder than she is spreading the article. People like that should feel horrible about themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blakelemay23 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 We live a short life and people would rather dumb down their own race to have money and credibility instead. Only thing to do ---> IMO <--- is spread the truth louder than she is spreading the article. People like that should feel horrible about themselves. EDIT: sorry for the double post, damn phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCI Wooden Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 I stubbed my toe this morning, but really, it's the door makers fault. Appalling as it is, there is NO warning sign on the door informing me that it is a door! There should have been a giant warning saying "WARNING: This is a door. Approaching a door in an open position while barefooted may result in injury if foot come in contact with door." Another option would be for them to make the doors wider, decreasing the odds that I will pass on the "loose door" side of the opening. With the door only a few feet wide, I didn't realize the danger of being too close to the hanging portion, and was therefor overconfident as I walked through. If only an expert would come out and publically warn the nation of the danger of door-to-foot collisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texascoaster89 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 ^ Wow, what a god awful article! I just tweeted about it. Amazed that someone could actually think the park was at fault. Like the gentleman for Screamscape put, "What do they want them to do? Fill under the rides with pools of sharks and alligators to stop people"? Sad thing is, in our society, there will still be that ONE fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcjp Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 (edited) I honestly don't get it. If someone decides to jump some fences, run across an airport runway and gets hit by a plane will anyone dare to say it's the pilot's or the airport's fault? God this is annoying. It looks like some people are anxiously waiting for any accident to happen at a park so that they can blame them. Edited August 20, 2015 by rcjp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImNotOneOfYou Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 I stubbed my toe this morning, but really, it's the door makers fault. Appalling as it is, there is NO warning sign on the door informing me that it is a door! There should have been a giant warning saying "WARNING: This is a door. Approaching a door in an open position while barefooted may result in injury if foot come in contact with door." Another option would be for them to make the doors wider, decreasing the odds that I will pass on the "loose door" side of the opening. With the door only a few feet wide, I didn't realize the danger of being too close to the hanging portion, and was therefor overconfident as I walked through. In the door maker's defense, if the openings were made wider, people would still find a way to stub their toes. Maybe an ant wandering on the floor. Thinking they could kick the ant, people would instead kick the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montu Maniac Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 @Susanglaser ..... Signs are placed to be read !!! It's true, for people like you ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCI Wooden Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 ^ Wow, what a god awful article! I just tweeted about it. Amazed that someone could actually think the park was at fault. Like the gentleman for Screamscape put, "What do they want them to do? Fill under the rides with pools of sharks and alligators to stop people"? Sad thing is, in our society, there will still be that ONE fool. If they did that, they would have to put up a few more signs: "Sharks and alligators are dangerous animals, entering their pool could result in injury or death" "Entering the pools could result in drowning" "Do not feed the sharks and alligators" @Susanglaser ..... Signs are placed to be read !!! It's true, for people like you ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcjp Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 I stubbed my toe this morning, but really, it's the door makers fault. Appalling as it is, there is NO warning sign on the door informing me that it is a door! There should have been a giant warning saying "WARNING: This is a door. Approaching a door in an open position while barefooted may result in injury if foot come in contact with door." Another option would be for them to make the doors wider, decreasing the odds that I will pass on the "loose door" side of the opening. With the door only a few feet wide, I didn't realize the danger of being too close to the hanging portion, and was therefor overconfident as I walked through. In the door maker's defense, if the openings were made wider, people would still find a way to stub their toes. Maybe an ant wandering on the floor. Thinking they could kick the ant, people would instead kick the door. Like Robb and others have said here you can't make anything 100% idiot proof as there will always be a way round the measures you take. It's a shame parks can't trust their guests because if they did plenty of things could be nicer. For instance, it always annoys me when I can't get too close to a ride or go under it without loads of netting but if you could I imagine the stupid things some people would do and as a result everyone has to "suffer". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarmor Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 To be fair, the lady didn't really imply cedar point was the blame. She created an article with two opposing arguments placing blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoppy Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 To be fair, the lady didn't really imply cedar point was the blame. She created an article with two opposing arguments placing blame. And it is yet another thing 'pissing in the wind' that hurts the industry, or at least CP at this time with all the publicity. Then you have yet another negative (inaccurate) article to piss off Robb and many others here...you saw his replies to the folks that put even partial blame on CP over the past many pages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted August 20, 2015 Author Share Posted August 20, 2015 To be fair, the lady didn't really imply cedar point was the blame. She created an article with two opposing arguments placing blame. She wrote it to sensationalize the topic and draw attention to herself. That's the annoying part of it. Journalism isn't about presenting something that is correct or factual anymore, it's about how much attention can you draw to yourself so your editor will give you a raise. In a way, I'm upset with myself that I even posted a link to her article. All I did was give in to what she was looking to accomplish. *sigh* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angle O. Descent Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 On the other hand, you have to give that person some attention in order to bring them back to their senses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarmor Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 To be fair, the lady didn't really imply cedar point was the blame. She created an article with two opposing arguments placing blame. She wrote it to sensationalize the topic and draw attention to herself. That's the annoying part of it. Journalism isn't about presenting something that is correct or factual anymore, it's about how much attention can you draw to yourself so your editor will give you a raise. In a way, I'm upset with myself that I even posted a link to her article. All I did was give in to what she was looking to accomplish. *sigh* Ohhhh. . . I didn't look it from that angle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted August 20, 2015 Author Share Posted August 20, 2015 Apparently the "expert" in her article is a paid witness-for-hire that knows nothing about the amusement park industry: http://www.jurispro.com/KennethNemire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montu Maniac Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 I couldn't get close enough !!! Miss Susan Glaser now complaining that signs are 2 far away ... she is on a mission !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Zo Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Apparently the "expert" in her article is a paid witness-for-hire that knows nothing about the amusement park industry:http://www.jurispro.com/KennethNemire When the media needs an legitimate expert, they'll find a legitimate expert. But... Nemire reached out to The Plain Dealer this week... When an expert "reaches out" to the media, they aren't doing it in the name of journalism. They're doing it in the name of advertising. The guy wanted his name in the paper, and the author took the bait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcurry11 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 To get over the fence, you get closer to the fence. Then you can see the sign. Just admit you are wrong, and move on. I hate when people know they are wrong, but continue to argue that they are right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking86 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 There will be no for Susan Glaser.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoinItForTheFame Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 There will be no for Susan Glaser.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagnumFreak25 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 I couldn't get close enough !!! Miss Susan Glaser now complaining that signs are 2 far away ... she is on a mission !!! 1) Get a fucking pair of glasses. That is totally readable. 2) If your far enough away you can't read it, your to far to hop the fence... Great work their Sherlock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talon2017 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 that article mad me laugh but throw objects at my wall at the same time bcause people are so incredibly stupid. if there is a sign that says WARNING DO NOT ENTER you dont enter it plain and simple. she tries to justify her reasoning but what she says proves nothing. i think she wants cp and all other amusement parks to look like a prison with 30 foot walls and fences around each rollercoaster and ride. hey theres a theme for cedar fair's next ride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyRCT3 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 I couldn't get close enough !!! Miss Susan Glaser now complaining that signs are 2 far away ... she is on a mission !!! 1) Get a fudging pair of glasses. That is totally readable. 2) If your far enough away you can't read it, your to far to hop the fence... Great work their Sherlock. Let's see, where to begin? Two layers of fences, multiple posted warning signs stating "Warning, Restricted Area DO NOT ENTER" , and a high-speed & highly visible & loud train with screaming riders. You decide to ignore these hazards & hop the fences, ignore the warning signs, to retrieve something that you had no reason bringing on the ride (which is also posted numerous times). You then, by the park's "negligence", get struck by said ride and are killed. The park is somehow to blame due to you being to far from view to read a sign, which should of been clearly visible if you were close enough to hop the two fences. That is her argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazelgreen Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Got back a few days ago from our first trip to Cedar Point with my 13 yr old son. We had a blast and can't wait to go back!! We live a couple hours south of Six Flags Great America which is our home park I guess you could say, and we loved Cedar Point SO much more and are already trying to figure out when we can return. The waits were much better than we expected (esp in comparison to usual Great America wait times). The only one that had more than 30-45 minute wait was Maverick, which my son won a Plinko fast lane pass for thankfully since we weren't a fan of it. Our favorite rides were Dragster and Millenium. Wicked Twister was down anytime we tried to go on it, and even shut down once while we were in line. We were also there the day the guy was killed and it seemed like a few rides closed for the night right after that (Raptor, Millenium, Sky Ride), not sure if because of the weather or what happened. Many people were talking about it while in line and the most common reaction was, "why would he do that, that's stupid." Quite a few people didn't even seem to know what had happened and only found out while hearing others talking about it while waiting in line. Last Friday was our last night there and unfortunately everything shut down due to storms. I was actually surprised they ran as late as they did because there was a fair amount of lightning before that. Dragster is even more awesome at night I think. As someone who usually only reads threads here and doesn't often participate, I've got to say that I've read the articles in which the 'experts' place blame on Cedar Point for the man's death last week. And it's completely ridiculous for them to even insinuate that. They had some barricades up near the Raptor after it happened and we saw where he jumped the fence and couldn't believe be risked it. My son even was like, what a dumb thing to do, he totally went over that fence where the coaster goes so low. So my 13 yr old even knows better. All in all, we had a great trip and loved Cedar Point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tmcdllr Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 I couldn't get close enough !!! Miss Susan Glaser now complaining that signs are 2 far away ... she is on a mission !!! 1) Get a fudging pair of glasses. That is totally readable. 2) If your far enough away you can't read it, your to far to hop the fence... Great work their Sherlock. Let's see, where to begin? Two layers of fences, multiple posted warning signs stating "Warning, Restricted Area DO NOT ENTER" , and a high-speed & highly visible & loud train with screaming riders. You decide to ignore these hazards & hop the fences, ignore the warning signs, to retrieve something that you had no reason bringing on the ride (which is also posted numerous times). You then, by the park's "negligence", get struck by said ride and are killed. The park is somehow to blame due to you being to far from view to read a sign, which should of been clearly visible if you were close enough to hop the two fences. That is her argument. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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