Cavs Fan Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 A lot of numbers pulled out of thin air in regards to estimates about where CP's crowd comes from. Only real factual evidence that we can rely on is that Michigan does indeed blow. But really, it's interesting hearing all of your input into where our crowds come from and how that info may be obtained. A lot of variables involved in an industry where you really have only 3 months for your flagship park to provide the results you need. Location and audience obviously plays a big role. I wouldn't be surprised if numbers go up in the coming years as Cleveland certainly is on the rebound as is Detroit to some degree. Amidst all of this speculation about the track, does anybody have some numbers on the percentage of the time our predictions are correct? All the Nick Cages over on the B&M plant thread are certainly cooking up some intriguing inferences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maverick_cp Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Michigan Blows! A worthwhile and constructive post. Dick. If you're comparing Michigan to Ohio, Michigan wins every time. I live about a half hour out of Detroit and yes, Cedar Point is closer to me than MIA (2 hours compared to 3 1/2) but just because the amusement park isnt as great doesn't mean the entire state is. Like Ohio has Cedar Point and Kings Island but really that's it. Michigan has two peninsulas filled with natural beauty, in addition to the obvious fact that we're surrounded by the great lakes. Ohio may have Lake Erie (Lake EWie, as I call it) but everything else overpowers two amusement parks. Enjoy your corn, Ohio. In all seriousness though I'm not hating on Ohio because cedar point is my life, however insulting the whole state because of a relatively average amusement park is a low blow. It's not michigan's fault MIA is neglected! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XShortestStrawX Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Only real factual evidence that we can rely on is that Michigan does indeed blow. Y'all are just jealous we are home to Good Morning America's "Most Beautiful Place in America" and all Ohio has outside of theme parks and football is a murky lake and the stench of garbage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brassinthegrass Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Not to get off topic, but the park was apparently packed today. Supposedly, Millennium Force had a posted 1.5 hour wait with a 45 minute Fast Lane line. I know that the FL line merges with the regular queue at the ramp which is about 15 minutes or so to the station. If this claim is true, they need to either start selling less or move replace Rougarou with Millennium in the FL+ tier. I'm here now at Hotel Breakers. Yes, the park was INSANE today. We already ordered Fast Pass for tomorrow. Not taking any chances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superbatboy Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Enjoy your corn, Ohio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB305 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 That track is most definitely dive track after seeing that picture, seriously. That is massive. When are we expecting announcements? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavs Fan Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Relax folks. Us Ohioans have nothing truly against Michigan! I personally only speak the way I do because I have scarlet and grey running through my veins! Both are great states in a great country! I'm just saying, Cleveland is the reason I'm cool. Good to hear the park was packed. Last week I was taking a couple of non-pass holders to the park. The weekday deals are totally a bargain compared to the weekend prices. Seems as though there were far more deals overall than offered in the past. I can dig that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatabeast Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Enjoy your corn, Ohio. 4/5 Great Lakes do prefer Michigan... I definitely dig the idea of a dive machine, I really like them... but I hope that track isn't for Cedar Point. Floorless trains and four inversions is similar enough to rougarou, the slightly unpronounceable predicted name doesn't help differentiate it, and now the track is basically the same color? The height and the drop are about to be the only differentiation this coaster has... right across the midway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DILinator Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Enjoy your corn, Ohio. 4/5 Great Lakes do prefer Michigan... I definitely dig the idea of a dive machine, I really like them... but I hope that track isn't for Cedar Point. Floorless trains and four inversions is similar enough to rougarou, the slightly unpronounceable predicted name doesn't help differentiate it, and now the track is basically the same color? The height and the drop are about to be the only differentiation this coaster has... right across the midway. I'm with you 100% on this! I don't have anything against a Dive Machine either, and will definitely be happy with it, if that's what it ends up being. But for the reasons you stated, plus a few others, I just feel like it's superfluous given what CP already has. Considering what they don't have, that they could put in that spot, is what makes a Dive Machine seem like a let-down, even though it would still be awesome. Besides, I'm still half-expecting the bomb to be dropped that the track we're seeing is for a major new coaster for Canada's Wonderland, and CP is going to get that Dark Ride/Coaster in 2016! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaithPlus1 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 In all seriousness though I'm not hating on Ohio because cedar point is my life, however insulting the whole state because of a relatively average amusement park is a low blow. I was actually referring to that school up North in Ann Arbor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ape Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 I live 4 and a half hours away from CP and 40 minutes from Kings island. The years we had Platinum Passes we visited Cedar Point more than Kings Island. So yes CP is close at that distance. Its like you live right next to me. Those are almost exactly the distances for me. I live in Northern Kentucky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcurry11 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 I used to hate this color, but looking at it more and more, I am really starting to love it. It's not necessarily the best for the location, but imagine it in a sunset over the lake. It will look spectacular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbill Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 A lot of numbers pulled out of thin air in regards to estimates about where CP's crowd comes from. Only real factual evidence that we can rely on is that Michigan does indeed blow. Enjoy your corn, Ohio. I'm enjoying this Michigan vs Ohio thing way too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grsupercity Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 That escalated quickly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chargersmichael Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 I really like the colors!!! I'm just a little worried that due to its location, its pretty close to Rougarou...hopefully it doesn't feel like there's too much orange in this area of the park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterkid124 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 If this is indeed what Cedar Point will receive, I'm not too sure about the choice of color. I like the color, but why go back to orange if Rougarou was just repainted that. There's many colors that haven't been used yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricUncleSam Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Enjoy your corn, Ohio. 4/5 Great Lakes do prefer Michigan... I definitely dig the idea of a dive machine, I really like them... but I hope that track isn't for Cedar Point. Floorless trains and four inversions is similar enough to rougarou, the slightly unpronounceable predicted name doesn't help differentiate it, and now the track is basically the same color? The height and the drop are about to be the only differentiation this coaster has... right across the midway. I'm with you 100% on this! I don't have anything against a Dive Machine either, and will definitely be happy with it, if that's what it ends up being. But for the reasons you stated, plus a few others, I just feel like it's superfluous given what CP already has. Considering what they don't have, that they could put in that spot, is what makes a Dive Machine seem like a let-down, even though it would still be awesome. Or maybe KD. There was a rumor that something from B&M would replace Shockwave. I don't see it as likely, though, due to the small footprint that SW covers. Besides, I'm still half-expecting the bomb to be dropped that the track we're seeing is for a major new coaster for Canada's Wonderland, and CP is going to get that Dark Ride/Coaster in 2016! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcurry11 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 I think the plant is getting smarter. No one has gotten a single peak at the tags on these pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grsupercity Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 I was hoping for dark colors. Dark purples and dark grays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepoint4life23 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 There is no such thing as to much orange. I still dont think that's for Cedar point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoinItForTheFame Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 (edited) If this ends up going to Cedar Point I think it's going to look great. Even though it's orange. . . And there are "way to many coasters at Cedar Point that are the same color" . . . It's going to be a great addition to the parks skyline, and the track is so large that it is unique enough for it to stand out from the other coasters there. No one complained we SheiKra was built even though it is a similar color to Scorpion. Just saying. Edited July 28, 2015 by DoinItForTheFame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcurry11 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 I will think it will be cool that from the west side, you will see all three height categories very clearly, with 200ft, 300 ft, and then 400 ft with Valravn, Millennium, and TTD respectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricUncleSam Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 If this ends up going to Cedar Point I think it's going to look great. Even though it's orange. . . And there are "way to many coasters at Cedar Point that are the same color" . . . It's going to be a great addition to the parks skyline, and the track is so large that it is unique enough for it to stand out from the other coasters there. No one complained we SheiKra was built even though it is a similar color to Scorpion. Just saying. With the color scheme comment, he's just referring to the fact that Gatekeeper, Millennium Force, Corkscrew, and Blue Streak have relatively similar color schemes, as do Maverick, Iron Dragon, Top Thrill Dragster, and Magnum. By my count, that's 4 blue and 4 red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Password121 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 If this ends up going to Cedar Point I think it's going to look great. Even though it's orange. . . And there are "way to many coasters at Cedar Point that are the same color" . . . It's going to be a great addition to the parks skyline, and the track is so large that it is unique enough for it to stand out from the other coasters there. No one complained we SheiKra was built even though it is a similar color to Scorpion. Just saying. With the color scheme comment, he's just referring to the fact that Gatekeeper, Millennium Force, Corkscrew, and Blue Streak have relatively similar color schemes, as do Maverick, Iron Dragon, Top Thrill Dragster, and Magnum. By my count, that's 4 blue and 4 red. How dare you forget Pipe Scream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TunaSled Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 How dare you forget Pipe Scream Oh you stop that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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