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Rougarou is one of the few coasters where I feel the new credit question is actually legitimate. On one hand, the actual ride itself is the same and only the trains are changing. On the other hand, due to the train changes the entire ride experience will be different, as riders are now sitting instead of standing. I'd probably lean toward the no side, though that may change after I ride it (whenever that ends up being). Unlike some coasters that are debated, however, either way is completely justified with this ride.

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I count my coasters on the objective track.

 

The problem I have with "experiences" is that it can be too subjective. In that case, someone could count the front and back of a train as different experiences. Someone could ride a coaster, like Ninja, before and after the tree removal and consider it a new experience. Riding a coaster during the day time, and then at night time...different. Same thing when parks flip their trains around backwards.

 

As far as racing coasters, like Gemini, I count both tracks separately. Even though it is the same experience, I would count 2 Batman the Rides from different parks as 2 coasters, even though they are the same experience.

 

If I were to count my experiences, I could probably get my count up to 1,000. It is a personal list, but if I were to say something like "I have been on 1,000 coasters, and this is my opinion"...it just doesn't seem as credible in comparison to someone who has actually ridden 1,000 different roller coasters.

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^ Weird, I count Gemini as one coaster and each batman clone at dif parks as there own credits because there different rides at different parks. To me Scooby do coaster is different from Mantis, I will be counting it as a new credit

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Rougarou is one of the few coasters where I feel the new credit question is actually legitimate. On one hand, the actual ride itself is the same and only the trains are changing. On the other hand, due to the train changes the entire ride experience will be different, as riders are now sitting instead of standing. I'd probably lean toward the no side, though that may change after I ride it (whenever that ends up being). Unlike some coasters that are debated, however, either way is completely justified with this ride.

 

I would count it as a new credit for the fact you change from standing to sitting. As for new credits, for me it is based upon a layout change (Texas Giant) or seating change (Rougarou) as stated.

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No...

 

it says "Coming in 2016...Divehawk 525: The world's tallest and fastest coaster. Upgrade to a Season Pass Today!"

 

And then under that really small it says...

 

"Divehawk 525 is a registered trademark of Cedar Fair LP. For more information please visit CedarPoint.com/Legal. For more information on Divehawk 525 please visit ThemeParkReview.com and search the forums for "Footers", "Inside Sources" or "MY GP FRIEND DIDN'T BELIEVE ME BUT WE'RE GETTING A DIVE COASTER NEXT SEASON !!!!!111111". Every word in the english language followed by "Hawk" is trademarked by Cedar Fair LP. All rights reserved, ride on."

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I am planning on heading down to Cedar Point in the upcoming months. I was wondering if any of you guys would help me with my question. What is the best day to go? I am open pretty much any day throughout the summer. I was also wondering if I should purchase Fast Lane due to the fact that I will only be able to attend the park for a day.

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As we finally draw near to the season, can someone assist me with how season pass processing works? I live in Texas, but bought a platinum pass for Cedar Fair as I've got enough miles saved up to fly around this year to visit all the parks. I just want to know where to go and all that so I have a smooth experience since I have no idea. Thanks!!

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Just for fun speculation and enjoyment, I created a new 5 year plan I would implement if I was the CEO. All of these major additions so close together might not be the most realistic, but I tried to balance them out.

 

For 2016: Throughout this upcoming summer, we start seeing footers pop up in the former GTT area as well as signs of other development. Late summer, a few support pieces and track even start appearing and the park announces their big 2016 plans: The world's tallest and fastest Dive Coaster that pretty much follows suit with the Sandusky Register's apparent "leaked" memo. The park also announces that this new coaster will be a part of an entire new park expansion project also set to open for 2016. It would include a new midway that connects Blue Streak to Celebration Plaza, the Marina Entrance is moved to Calypso's former location, and a new food stand, retail building, and shaded seating area like near GK will be by the entrance plaza to the new coaster which will be along this new midway. In addition, the park announces that the old Pirate Ride Building will be demolished to make room for either a Vekoma Madhouse or a Mack Revolving House. These rides are unique and guests really enjoy them, so it would set Cedar Point apart from most other parks. This would also be a much needed dark ride, even though it's not necessarily a traditional one. In result with this change, Blue Streak's entrance will be more visually appealing and will have a better flow (signage will be better and guests will know how to get to the entrance).

 

For 2017: This year will focus on kids and families. Kiddie Kingdom will get an entire refresh and a new name. Most if not all of the existing rides will be removed to make way for several new kids and family rides that are more modern and thrilling. The star of this new area will be a B&M family inverted coaster. The park also surprises people by announcing a themed playground in the concrete pad between Millennium's queue and final overbank. Currently it is wasted space, and there is also nothing really for kids to do if they are waiting with another adult for family members to ride Millennium and/or Rougarou. This immersive area will be the perfect solution, since playgrounds can entertain kids for a long time, and the adults supervising them will be thankful for the kids to have something to do instead of just sitting around. Lastly, the park announces a refresh of the front of the park. Point Pavilion will be demolished since the new Lakeside Pavilions have basically made PP redundant. The park announces that a new interactive dark ride will be located in its place. It will also include Garner Holt animatronics that Matt Ouimet recently referred to in future dark ride installations. A new dining/food complex similar to Harmony Hall at Carowinds will replace the existing picnic shelters. People would still be allowed to picnic inside, but it would offer an air-conditioned, indoor facility to eat and relax as well as purchase food if so desired. This will also lead to the removal of Hurricane Hanna's and this entire front corner of the park would be opened up and beautified. No longer will it feel closed in and outdated. This year is all about kids and families, and several areas of the park are improved and better utilized.

 

For 2018: For this year's announcement (halfway between the major 2016 expansion and the big 150th anniversary in 2020), the park says that Mean Streak will get a Rocky Mountain Construction revamp along with a refreshed entrance plaza. This will please thrill seekers and (like the Mantis-Rougarou transformation) will convert a ride with relatively low ridership and guest satisfaction into a crowd pleaser that would be one of the best coasters in the world.

 

For 2019: During the 2018 season, a new dorm is constructed off the peninsula which leads to speculation that involves the demise of Cedars Dorms. In the late summer, it is officially released that Cedars will be removed during the upcoming off season and Perimeter Road will be rerouted slightly to go around this area. It is also announced that Challenge Park will be closing and that RipCord and SkyScraper will be moving to Cedars’ old location while Challenge Golf and Challenge Racing will be removed completely. RipCord and SkyScraper will become a part of the park instead of being separate like in Challenge Park. A Wild Mouse coaster will also fit in this space, a ride that will appeal to all ages and is relatively cheap for the park to install to go along with these other changes.

 

For 2020: During the summer of 2019, the park starts hyping for its 150th anniversary and many clues and teasers are released. There is major speculation but nothing definitive can be figured out except for the location. For the past year, the former location of Challenge Park has been vacant, but noticeable construction has been going on all season. Finally, just before Labor Day, the park has a huge announcement. The former Challenge Park area will be home to 2 separate projects for 2020. First, Soak City will be expanded in the area formerly occupied by RipCord and Challenge racing. A "toilet bowl" slide and a Snake Pit slide complex would both be added here. The second half of the announcement, the main part of it, is a brand new, massive roller coaster. I'm not really sure I want to put a type or list any stats about it, but it would be like what Magnum and Millennium were for the park at those times. Something new, innovative, and perfect for the Roller Coaster Capital of the World's 150th anniversary. The new section of the park as well as where the coaster's entrance plaza and station would be is where Challenge Golfing was located. The lift hill would cross over Magnum's and go back behind Gemini. From there the layout could have several options, but keep in mind this coaster would likely go over the Soak City parking lot and possibly over Soak City itself. Especially if this is a hyper/giga-esque coaster, it could travel over a large area with only minimally invasive supports if designed creatively. A turnaround could even be done back by Camper Village, a little before reaching Sandcastle Suites. The park would emphasize multi-day stays on its hotels and resorts for its milestone 150th season, hence both the Soak City expansion and ground breaking roller coaster. This would likely attract more overnight visitors, since this would allow them to spend a whole day at Soak City, plus at least another whole day in the actual park. With the coaster as the star attraction, the park will have a very successful and memorable anniversary year.

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As we finally draw near to the season, can someone assist me with how season pass processing works? I live in Texas, but bought a platinum pass for Cedar Fair as I've got enough miles saved up to fly around this year to visit all the parks. I just want to know where to go and all that so I have a smooth experience since I have no idea. Thanks!!

I'm from California and had a similar scenario lasr year. I just printed the confirmation with the barcode and took it to season pass processing when I got to Cedar Point. It was quick and easy (a matter of minutes). If you bought the platinum pass you can show your barcoded paper to the parking attendant for free parking.

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Very cool ideas, Ride On_17! It sure would be amazing to see a plan like this put into action, and if there was any park in the world to do it, it would be Cedar Point. Unfortunately, with so many other parks to distribute capital to, I just can't see CP receiving this many large additions in such a small amount of time. Though when you think about them individually, a dive machine, family coaster, and RMC conversion of Mean Streak all sound like plausible additions that we could see from the park very soon.

 

It's crazy to think that we really could see the park's 20th coaster being added in 2020. The thing is, I just can't imagine what type of coaster that incredible 20th one would be. After the aforementioned additions, what more could this park possibly need? (And please don't say a B&M Flyer. No park really needs a B&M Flyer.)

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For me, just with the stature of all the incredible, record breaking rides Cedar Point has unveiled over the years to make them who they are, it would have to be either 1) a first of its kind, or 2) a tall, non-inverting steel coaster. Maybe they'll re-take the height record. Maybe they'll break the length or speed (doubtful on speed) record. 100 mph giga coaster? At this point, nobody knows. Why not? 350 ft, 100 mph, 8,000 feet long, four trains? At this point, there's no way to know what CEdar Point has up their sleeve for their biggest anniversary in their modern era of the park. And the fact that they've ALREADY talked about it makes me interested.

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It's crazy to think that we really could see the park's 20th coaster being added in 2020. The thing is, I just can't imagine what type of coaster that incredible 20th one would be. After the aforementioned additions, what more could this park possibly need? (And please don't say a B&M Flyer. No park really needs a B&M Flyer.)

I've been thinkig they'll try and get to twenty for a while now, they wouldn't even have to be the first. It would make total since to, with a new coaster next year, a family coaster(Spinning? WMG style dark ride?) Iron Streak could come, and for 2020 I've been thinking they'll bring back the cyclone and then make a record breaker, maybe a poler coaster in the 600-1000 foot range. Or if they go by their own count they only need three more coasters instead of four.

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