mightypotato Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I'm torn on this. I like the idea of converting the ride since it breathes new life into it. But...it's still Mantis. You're just sitting down now. I suppose the only real test will come next year when it re-opens. Also...we're all missing the big picture here. New credit or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbprecision Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 The logo looks very similiar to Wild Thing at Valleyfair! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJStephens15 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 So it looks like the only modifications come after the break run (no more corkscrew)? There is. Look at the picture above. Aye, just spotted it. Didn't look too closely at the pictures/misread the press release Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbill Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Okay, I'll be the one to say it. I think this could be very painful. Why? Because this ride was designed for standing, not sitting. Heartline design, of course, puts all of the forces centered on your heart. Now that we'll be sitting on this ride, all of the forces will be focused higher on our bodies. This means that the forces will probably focused right on our heads. That could mean some SERIOUS pain during the finale. Don't you think if this were the case (which it's not) B&M (a company of experts who do this for a living) would have realized that before some people on a message board did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoinItForTheFame Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Awesome, I love the colors! Looks like it will be a great transformation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharman19 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I'm confused, this sentece says that it will utilize the structure and track of the "former" Mantis. The trains will be manufactured by Bolliger & Mabillard, Monthey, Switzerland, the same team behind rides like Raptor and GateKeeper, and will transform the ride experience dramatically while utilizing the structure and track of the former Mantis roller coaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluestreak Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I would think that there would be a newer style train/restraint system. Seems to be the same old thing from older B&M coasters. Perhaps something like the wing coaster/Banshee restraints? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intaman Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 (edited) Reading this thread has caused me about as much pain as Mantis. On a more positive note, I am really looking forward to the Breakers renovations, which is desperately needed (some of the larger rooms still have 1970s-era wood paneling). Edited September 18, 2014 by Intaman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted September 18, 2014 Author Share Posted September 18, 2014 Cedar Point just sent us some new images and I added them to the announcement post: http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1502277#p1502277 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBrylczyk Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I'm confused, this sentece says that it will utilize the structure and track of the "former" Mantis. The trains will be manufactured by Bolliger & Mabillard, Monthey, Switzerland, the same team behind rides like Raptor and GateKeeper, and will transform the ride experience dramatically while utilizing the structure and track of the former Mantis roller coaster. Just like this guy - Used the songs from the "former" this guy - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PVA62 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Colors look great! I'm happy it's not leaving CP and think this conversion is a good move. I always thought the layout was good and I wanted to enjoy Mantis, but the stand-up part just made it unbearable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lareson Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Track modifications? Only thing that's changing are the trains and paint scheme. While the orange track and teal green supports may look dull on the rendering, it is a rendering. I'd imagine that the colors will be a lot more vibrant (and shiny!) when the coaster gets painted. Train colors look interesting. Lime green for the restrains and paneling with a bit darker green for accent, then an orange and yellow-orange for the seat backing. Color scheme looks similar to Medusa, minus the purple and adding another darker green. I'm actually wondering if we'll see a few more of the support ball joints getting replaced. Those are all of the weak points on the older B&M coasters and I know at least of one that was replaced last off season. I'm sure some will ask, but it'll be impractical to replace them with ridged connections. Would probably screw up a few things structurally too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
televisedconfession Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 OMG Some of you people in the thread, I will never get. I don't understand how people are seriously complaining about color scheme and signs. Come on people, stop the useless complaining. Anyway... I'm excited for this announcement. To me, this is the year Cedar Point said, "Listen everyone, we get it. So you don't like Mantis all that much? We'll fix it. You say our Hotel is aging? We'll fix it!" I really have to hand it to Cedar Point this year. They're really taking great steps to improve their park. It's about quality, not quantity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinU Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 OMG Some of you people in the thread, I will never get. I don't understand how people are seriously complaining about color scheme and signs. Come on people, stop the useless complaining. Anyway... I'm excited for this announcement. To me, this is the year Cedar Point said, "Listen everyone, we get it. So you don't like Mantis all that much? We'll fix it. You say our Hotel is aging? We'll fix it!" I really have to hand it to Cedar Point this year. They're really taking great steps to improve their park. It's about quality, not quantity. I agree! I'm liking the way the park is really trying to maintain and improve their existing lineup. But also, by working hard to (not wanting to sound too Disney-ish) make the park magical. I love parks at night, and with the recent improvements to Power Tower's lights, and Millennium's lift (which lights didn't seems to work for a few years) it's great to see the park getting a facelift as a whole, and not trying to make the focus on THE TALLEST/FASTEST thing that year. A great park for many reasons. I have always liked CP, but I'm even more excited to see where she's going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willh51 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I liked Mantis and am glad it's not scrap metal. Why isn't everyone excited that this may very well be the most intense/best floorless B&M ever?! If they remove the trim it'll blaze through, and they'll probably loosen up the midcourse with the new trains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 The Prince analogy is spot on! lmao I find it so odd that the wording in the PR makes it sound like a brand new ride instead of focusing on an improved experience rather than trying to trick the public into thinking it's something brand new all together. Whatever though. I'm just nit-picking and only us coaster nerds really care about the words in the press release. The local news will end up showing the highlights of everything and the GP will see it and have a GP reaction like, "Aww its so new! So cool!" and they go. Anyways, I hope this really works out well and makes the ride a much smoother experience. I could see other older and rough stand ups getting the new trains. Vortex at CGA anyone? I'm thinking that could be next! I will say my only real disappointment is they didn't name it after Lebron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VF15 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Ah... so THAT'S what the Rougarou trademark was all about. I'm going to Cedar Point for the first time in 2015, so it's nice that I'll be able to say that this is a quality credit. I never rode Mantis, but it seems that the ride had a pretty good layout, but no one ever mentions it because all anyone can think about is the pain, so now, this should allow people to really enjoy this coaster. Can't wait to ride this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatabeast Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Anyway... I'm excited for this announcement. To me, this is the year Cedar Point said, "Listen everyone, we get it. So you don't like Mantis all that much? We'll fix it. You say our Hotel is aging? We'll fix it!" I really have to hand it to Cedar Point this year. They're really taking great steps to improve their park. It's about quality, not quantity. You hit the nail on the head for why this announcement excites me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrlittle Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 I totally forget about the hotel renovation. Glad to hear more details on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJLehto Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Well about time! lol why haven't they started converted these stand ups no one likes to sit downs already!? I am a bit more excited to go now in '15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatle11 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 That hotel update was badly needed. I'm very happy that's finally being done. I'm also quite confident that Mantis will be a more enjoyable ride with the floorless trains as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharman19 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 So what? will Vortex at CGA be renamed Centurion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djboss302 Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Well, I may have to give Mantis a second chance now. Looks even better, and I actually like the color scheme. Hopefully I can make it out next year. and no, I don't think this should count as a new credit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuckInSD Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 So what? will Vortex at CGA be renamed Centurion? Either that or Fury... 91. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterbill Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 So what? will Vortex at CGA be renamed Centurion? Just stop... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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