Angle O. Descent Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Is it true that the secret to more comfortable rides on Magnum is pulling your seatbelt as tight as possible? I tried it, but don't have enough experience to know if it works. It's too bad those lap bars tend to auto-staple. My mind seems to process the airtime on Magnum as more charming and quirky as opposed to extreme and amazing. I found the best way to ride Magnum was to use the "rodeo" method where one hand holds the lapbar up from crushing you and the other hand is high in the air. The airtime on Magnum is insane, that's one of the reasons I think it's better than Millennium. It has been several years since I have been to CP, but I dont remember the lap bar being a problem at all on Magnum. Does it have anything to do with a person's size? I am a tiny scrawny guy, and was even more so then. I rode it in 2004. The key is to sit in the back. The airtime near the back is enjoyable versus painful in the front. Try it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. M Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I spent my entire life thinking airtime is better in the back. I know on some coasters like El Toro, that's true. And I know I prefer the feeling of getting dragged over a hill, rather than held back at the top and then pushed through at the bottom. Is the general consensus that the airtime on Magnum is actually stronger in the front? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angle O. Descent Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I spent my entire life thinking airtime is better in the back. I know on some coasters like El Toro, that's true. And I know I prefer the feeling of getting dragged over a hill, rather than held back at the top and then pushed through at the bottom. Is the general consensus that the airtime on Magnum is actually stronger in the front? I also used to think the back was better. But now I find that airtime is stronger in the front of any coaster. Although in some cases you do get the 'whip" or 'pull' down the hills when sitting in the back (Behemoth is a perfect example of this). On Magnum in the front, I find that the airtime is so strong, combined with the restraint design, that it's borderline painful. For Magnum and Magnum alone, sitting closer to the back is much more pleasant. It's almost an art to find a sweet spot on a coaster, but when you do find it , it's amazing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. M Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I spent my entire life thinking airtime is better in the back. I know on some coasters like El Toro, that's true. And I know I prefer the feeling of getting dragged over a hill, rather than held back at the top and then pushed through at the bottom. Is the general consensus that the airtime on Magnum is actually stronger in the front? I also used to think the back was better. But now I find that airtime is stronger in the front of any coaster. Although in some cases you do get the 'whip" or 'pull' down the hills when sitting in the back (Behemoth is a perfect example of this). On Magnum in the front, I find that the airtime is so strong, combined with the restraint design, that it's borderline painful. For Magnum and Magnum alone, sitting closer to the back is much more pleasant. It's almost an art to find a sweet spot on a coaster, but when you do find it , it's amazing I know for a fact that's not universally true though, like I already said El Toro is definitely not as intense in the front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christianscoasters Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I prefer riding magnum in the back, but every now and then, I ride in the ejector seat, 1-3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcjp Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 The best airtime seat obviously depends on the coaster for several reasons. In theory, in a parabolic airtime hill the amount of air should be exactly the same both in the front and back (the train's extremities) the difference being that the front gets more of it initially while the back has more negatives on the way down. This is why during drops (like El toro's) the back has the most airtime. The front, on the other hand, will have more air than the back while climbing towards a brake run ,for example. When I rode shambhala I noticed that, closer to the front, I would get some floater air before entering the MCRB while in the back I got nothing. This is why magnum may be more painful in the front because, while the back progressively gets more intense air right until it's peak (before the hill ends) the front peaks right when the hill starts which causes that pop of air that throws you into the lap bars. So a coaster can be designed to deliver a lot more air in the back than in the front or the other way round. For example, kingda Ka (although not much) offers a bit more in the first cars because the airtime the back should get after cresting the top hat is neutralized by the trim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. M Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 ^Thanks for the explanation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cal1br3tto Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Definitely don't just stick to the most enthusiast-popular row on a coaster. A lot of rides are equally good, though different, in the front row and the back row. Sometimes, the back is more highly praised but the front is even better. Magnum does have plenty of back row fans (I do think that 1.3 is more fun than the first row of the last car, though). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invertalon Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Although I try, I just never really enjoy Magnum. I like the first half, but as soon as it hits the pretzel turnaround things go downhill fast... The transitions, abrupt hills, etc... I just don't find it enjoyable. The trains are just TERRIBLE as well... Being 6'6", it is trickery to get into that train. I guess the ride is becoming a bit too dated for me I suppose... I would rather see a GCI along the beach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philrad71 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I go for the back on Magnum every time and haven't ridden up front for years except for when I tried the 1-3 once (didn't really notice it to be much different) last year. My partner thinks that the bunny hills are just a little bit too painful for him, but I still can't help loving that feeling of getting whipped over the first drop in the back seat with that spectacular view of the lake in front of you. It is definitely in my top three for first drops on any coaster despite the fact that the rest of the ride can be a bit of a challenge to the thighs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoppy Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Although I try, I just never really enjoy Magnum. I like the first half, but as soon as it hits the pretzel turnaround things go downhill fast... I will agree with you about that turnaround...a bit rough and bracing for it helps, but the rest of the ride and great airtime keeps me coming back. The only time I have had a bad ride on Magnum was when the ride op tightened the seatbelt so much and shoved it under the lapbar, that it got stuck between my legs and I could barely walk off the ride after... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerstlaueringvar Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 I really found 1-3 is much better than the last row this summer. But I've never had a painful ride on Magnum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vonni Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 I'm still hoping the Dark Ride rumor will come to fruition for 2015. CP could rock a Dark Ride! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djboss302 Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 ^I agree with you on that statement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarienLaker Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 I'm still hoping the Dark Ride rumor will come to fruition for 2015. CP could rock a Dark Ride! Of course I could see Cedar Point putting in an interactive dark ride in 2015, something like Boo Blasters on Boo Hill! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GwaziBSRider1 Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 I would love to see a new dark ride at CP. Something better than Boo Blasters though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koasterking48 Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 I'm willing to bet that CP will make a dark ride that is very similar to what Canada's Wonderland is building, depending on how the GP receives the ride most likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatle11 Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 ^Definitely agreed. As long as capacity doesn't become an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyRCT3 Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Mean Streak is definitely a beautiful structure, but it's pretty painful ride. Perhaps they can tear it down and put in either a new themed section or a couple of coasters in it's old spot. Maybe even a brand spanking new RMC woodie. RMC could do wonders with this. Topper track is the way to go, at least that's my opinion. Goliath & Outlaw Run prove that wooden coasters can be like steel ones. It needs a new and imaginative layout like NTG, but with topper track. Give it a slightly taller hill and you've got the tallest, fastest, longest drop, and steepest woodie. Even if this never happens. This ride NEEDS new life, when you demolish the Que you know the ride sucks. So why keep paying to keep it there? Something needs to be done, make it better or burn it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shavethewhales Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 I think we've all agreed that at some point MS will get an RMC makeover. Given their options for the ride, it seems like the obvious choice. It just comes down to when. Will it be marketed as their next big coaster? Very possibly, I think. At this point the only thing it's worth is standing as a backdrop in pictures and adding to the coaster count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vonni Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Mean Streak is definitely a beautiful structure, but it's pretty painful ride. Perhaps they can tear it down and put in either a new themed section or a couple of coasters in it's old spot. Maybe even a brand spanking new RMC woodie. RMC could do wonders with this. Topper track is the way to go, at least that's my opinion. Goliath & Outlaw Run prove that wooden coasters can be like steel ones. It needs a new and imaginative layout like NTAG, but with topper track. Give it a slightly taller hill and you've got the tallest, fastest, longest drop, and steepest woodie. Even if this never happens. This ride NEEDS new life, when you demolish the Que you know the ride sucks. So why keep paying to keep it there? Something needs to be done, make it better or burn it! I agree with almost everything you said. If RMC does do a makeover I'd rather it be the I Box track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanTheBooker Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Mean Streak is definitely a beautiful structure, but it's pretty painful ride. Perhaps they can tear it down and put in either a new themed section or a couple of coasters in it's old spot. Maybe even a brand spanking new RMC woodie. RMC could do wonders with this. Topper track is the way to go, at least that's my opinion. Goliath & Outlaw Run prove that wooden coasters can be like steel ones. It needs a new and imaginative layout like NTAG, but with topper track. Give it a slightly taller hill and you've got the tallest, fastest, longest drop, and steepest woodie. Even if this never happens. This ride NEEDS new life, when you demolish the Que you know the ride sucks. So why keep paying to keep it there? Something needs to be done, make it better or burn it! I agree with almost everything you said. If RMC does do a makeover I'd rather it be the I Box track. I think it should be topper track. If I-Box, then it's not a real wooden coaster anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougMJr Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 I wouldn't care if it was ibox or topper, as long as it's a good coaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.J. Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 I think it should be topper track. If I-Box, then it's not a real wooden coaster anymore. After the money they spent [apparently] retracking the thing recently, I wouldn't expect anything to happen to Mean Streak for at least several years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3Mutts Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 ^'We can't say for sure, after all, The Rattler at SFFT had Topper Track for only 2-3 years before it became Iron Rattler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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