ABW Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 It's funny how I state one thing to answer a question and then say that I didn't want to start any arguments...yet people seem to still start them. Anyways, I am also excited to see what Matt has in store for the company. It's even more funny how you failed to realize that you were indeed setting yourself for another argument. This is obviously a touchy subject and it seems that you've been here long enough to realize that. I mean come on, did you seriously expect another talk about "Mr.Kinzel" to not draw ANY reaction at all, none? Seriously? After ALL the debates that people have had about this (that I know I've certainly had something to do with in some of them) and make their points, and then not say anything when the same "issue" is brought up again. It's this reason why a whole new thread was created just for this one subject (whether we should all hate Dick Kinzel for closing down GL.) So with all that in mind, DON'T start another argument like this that many people (probably myself as well) will likely get in to by stating something along the lines of One of the main reasons why I stopped liking Mr. Kinzel is because he made the final decision to close down my home park (Geauga Lake). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSL488 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 The biggest problem with Matt bringing family rides like "Disney rides" to Cedar Point is this... Disney has Imagineers, Cedar Point does not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie200330 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Don't know if anyone has posted this, but here goes.......there are actually 3 pages to the blog so you have to click the next entry. http://www.cedarpoint.com/public/fun/blog/2011/11/21/OnPoint_Goes_Off_Limits_Part_1.cfm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galindoverhere Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 anyone seen this amazing CP video of the last day of the 2011 season?: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDipper 80 Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 ^I recall someone posting it here earlier, but it's always worth a second look . It reminds me of the "Blue Danube Waltz" scene from 2001: A Space Odyssey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastermaniac Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 It's even more funny how you failed to realize that you were indeed setting yourself for another argument. The only reason why I mentioned the GL thing in the first place is because people asked why many people don't like him. That's one of the reasons why. That's it, end of story. Back to talking about Cedar Point. The biggest problem with Matt bringing family rides like "Disney rides" to Cedar Point is this... Disney has Imagineers, Cedar Point does not. That's completely understandable. It would still be cool IMO to see something along the lines of Disney-like theming in the park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galindoverhere Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 ^I recall someone posting it here earlier, but it's always worth a second look . It reminds me of the "Blue Danube Waltz" scene from 2001: A Space Odyssey. It's like a "farewell" video isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABW Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 The biggest problem with Matt bringing family rides like "Disney rides" to Cedar Point is this... Disney has Imagineers, Cedar Point does not. What makes you think that Matt couldn't do the same? Perhaps not on the scale of Imagineers, but still something similar exclusivley for Cedar Point. Not guaranteeing that would happen, but I don't think we should rule out the possibility of a former Disney exec doing something great that has never been done before. Matt and Kinzel are very difference people, I don't think things are really going to remain the same once Matt takes over. Just my two cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galindoverhere Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 ^^ I agree and I think the least Matt will do is take out a coaster, and build something more of a "family type" thing... In my opinion of course.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelTheFORCE Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 While Matt is the President and CEO, people fail to realize that Cedar Point still has its own team of management and execs (which have probably been the same for years) that will most likely be the ones making all of these decisions (not Matt), along with every other Cedar Fair park. People acted the same way when Kennywood was purchased by a corporate entity, like everything was going to be paved and multiple B&Ms and Intamins were on their way, yet nothing much has changed and it is still the same park with the same outlook and values. In short, I don't see much changing unless a complete management overhaul is performed. Cedar Point will still be the same "Cedar Point, America's Rockin' Roller Coast" we all know. Edit: And looking at Cedar Fair's website, Kinzel still remains on the board of directors anyway, albeit not as CEO and/or chairman of the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chargersmichael Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 If they take out a roller coaster and put a family ride in...what's wrong with that? Then it will draw more families and people to CP and get more money resulting into another creative CP coaster...time will come...hopefully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galindoverhere Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 ^^ Cedar Point is already one of the country's greatest amusement parks, but IMO one of these reasons is because of the coasters, I agree removing only one coaster to build more family rides would be O.K. but CP is always going to be switching along to a different type of plan, which would either be building the meanest , tallest coaster or adding the mild, wild family type rides/coasters.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molemaster43 Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I heard they are getting a new coaster in 2013, well, most likely. It would be B&M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galindoverhere Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Yes, I've heard the same thing, I heard it would most likely be a wing-rider or a floorless.. but CP never disappoints and I can't wait to hear if this is true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrygator Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 ^ and ^^ If you have heard something tell us who you heard this from and what position of authority or knowledge they hold. I doubt you heard anything from a reputable source. In 2004 I heard from a nice lady checking my passes at Cedar Point that CP would be getting a wooden coaster longer than Son of Beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galindoverhere Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 ^^ Here is the source, kind sir Scroll down to the very bottom for the 2013 rumors.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrygator Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 ^^ Here is the source, kind sir Scroll down to the very bottom for the 2013 rumors.. Are you saying a 13 year old with no credentials is your source or are you asking me to click on an invisible link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galindoverhere Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Oops sorry http://www.screamscape.com/html/cedar_point.htm there is your source.. don't be so mean by the way!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrygator Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Asking for a source is not being mean. You are in for a rough life, if you think I'm being mean in my posts. If posters would learn to state their sources it would make it much easier for everyone to have an intelligent discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galindoverhere Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Oh okay but at least I put the source up!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belo777 Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 (edited) Cedar Point is DEFINITELY due for a new coaster. It's been since 2007, right? Edited January 18, 2012 by belo777 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galindoverhere Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Cedar Point is DEFIANTLY due for a new coaster. It's been since 2007, right? Yes, it has... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterlover420 Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 This may just be me, but I don't feel like screamscape is a great source for 'rumors' and such. Everybody that works at CP has heard this rumor (and the Dippin Dots guy definitely confirmed it ) but still, I know the place and people tend to give out false information to send you on the wrong track on purpose. Just from managers alone, I have heard 3 separate rumors: a B&M dive machine in place of Antique Cars, a GCI woodie in place of/in front of DT, and an Intamin prefab replacing Mean Streak (these were all separate rumors). From the people I've talked to, it seems like people are just so desperate for a new coaster, they are making things up now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastermaniac Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 ^ I always use Screamscape; it's very reliable IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrygator Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 ^^Completely agree that screamscape is not infallible, but the Moderators and Management at TPR like to know where a rumor is coming from. Lance does a great job considering the vast number of parks he covers. He is much more reliable that the Dippin Dots guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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