pinkslipknot420 Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 yeah mall of america is across the street from the airport and valleyfair is about 15 miles southwest of there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkslipknot420 Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 ive just read through every page of this topic and im pissed off. all you crackheads who think you can predict what renegade is going to be like can kiss my ass. Why do you care about airtime so much. It cool yeah, but it shouldn't be your deciding factor on hating or loving a coaster especially when its not even 2 feet tall yet. so just quit f***ing complaining and be patient. as a minnesotan and loyal fan of valleyfair, im standing up for my amusement park. im pumped to be getting an out and back/twister GCI at my park and im sure my fellow minnesotans feel the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzy_Psycho Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 Gotta go slightly off topic for a minute here... I would like to go for a short trip out to MN next spring for VF and MOA. How much distance is between the two and how far is either place from the airport? Can it be done without a rentacar? IMO, Renegade is the one thing I needed to finally head out in that direction. MOA is only a few min. from the airport by lightrail, but as far as I can tell there's no public transit to VF - MTC busses go to Shakopee, but unless there's a local shuttle from town or the racetrack the busses don't go near the park. You'd either need a rental, taxi, or local contact with car to get out to VF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesdillaman Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 ive just read through every page of this topic and im pissed off. all you crackheads who think you can predict what renegade is going to be like can kiss my a$$. Why do you care about airtime so much. It cool yeah, but it shouldn't be your deciding factor on hating or loving a coaster especially when its not even 2 feet tall yet. so just quit f***ing complaining and be patient. as a minnesotan and loyal fan of valleyfair, im standing up for my amusement park. im pumped to be getting an out and back/twister GCI at my park and im sure my fellow minnesotans feel the same way. Right On! Power to the People -James Dillaman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snorkymn Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 It's strange because Valleyfair specifically says the structure is three 250ft tall towers. It doesn't say that's how far you fall. Every other site says it's 275 feet though. So who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkzilla Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 the three towers are 250 each... with a 25 ft cap on top... soo... that makes the entire structure itself 275 feet... give or take a few feet... like someone already said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steel Posted October 13, 2006 Share Posted October 13, 2006 I specifically remember Valleyfair! advertising Power Tower as 275 ft. when it first opened. They must have fallen back on it a little and decided to tell the truth. Either way, it's a longer fall than Cedar Points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkslipknot420 Posted October 13, 2006 Share Posted October 13, 2006 im going to valleyfair tomorrow hopefully so if i see anything as far as renegade i will let you all know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted October 14, 2006 Share Posted October 14, 2006 No, realistically less than 1% of theme park attendees would know what "B&M" referred to in the first place. Yet another example of you presenting an "opinion" with no factual data to back it up....as a fact. *sigh* --Robb "And somehow you still can't understand why your statements bother me?" Alvey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottBrown Posted October 14, 2006 Share Posted October 14, 2006 No, realistically less than 1% of theme park attendees would know what "B&M" referred to in the first place. But the point is, B&M essentially makes the most GP-popular coasters out there. Are there exceptions? Sure. But I still think CF should turn to 'em for their next project. It's just the sort of thing the park needs. More like Silver Bullet? More like Nemesis? I doubt it would even really matter all that much. Dude B&M is more well known than youi think - First off anyone that has watched one of those Discoverey or Travel Channel shows has probably heard of B&M - and why would CF turn to B&M for their next project - They have a very good thing going with Intamin a company I would venture to say is just as "gp-popular" as B&M and from the looks of things Cedar Fair seems to think so as well otherwise Cedar Point wouldn't be building the fourth in a row - But I have noticed the GP doesn't mind getting bumped around on a Vekoma or Arrow it's the spoiled enthusiasts that do most of the complaining of headbanging, B&M is more of an ACE-Popular company. . . Smotth ride and Fat person seats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Posted October 14, 2006 Share Posted October 14, 2006 I think parks go with B&Ms because the public tends to like them. But nobody should confuse the public liking something with brand recognition. The name "B&M" isn't painted proudly on every ride the same way "Kelloggs" is on every box of corn flakes. And do you think most parkgoers have watched those Discovery Channel specials with enough interest that they automatically know the names of the major coaster manufacturers and would recognize their products when they saw 'em? I doubt it. Hell, when I first got enthused about coasters, I didn't know a B&M from any other ride. That sort of thing takes awareness and interest, which I doubt you would find in many park patrons. Seriously, somebody take a clipboard to a park entry gate and hand out lists of coaster manufacturers with the question, "do these names mean anything to you?" at the top. I bet my statistic pans out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottBrown Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Great so the general public perfers B&M coasters even though 1% of them know what they are - My point is the GP doesn't care who the designer is, go to Knott's look at the lines for Silver Bullet, Xcelerator and Boomerang they all are popular with the GP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbalvey Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Scott, don't bother trying to argue with him. Just tell him "Dude, you're right...you obviously know everything" and them move on to have a conversation with someone who is less immature. --Robb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imbordisux Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 For what it's worth, both sides of this debate have merit. Obviously, we can't say for certain just what percentage of the patrons know what a "B&M" is, or what it stands for, but we also have to realize that liking a ride, or even several rides, does not mean that they know much about the history. For instance, at my home park, many park-goers love both Kingda Ka and El Toro, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they both know that they're made by the same company. You couldn't go up to just any rider and ask who their favorite manufacturer is, many of them just know "this one is a cool ride", and "that one over there is a cool ride". This is why many parks go after B&M and Intamin, not because of name-recognition, but because they make "cool rides". I mean, when El Toro opened, the commercials didn't mention that it was an Intamin, nor did it open with the line "From the makers of Kingda Ka...". People don't get excited by the maker, they just say "Wow, that looks cool". Just like us. Many park-goers don't know the manufacturers, but that doesn't mean that the officials aren't tallying up which rides produce the most positive reactions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkslipknot420 Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 not to change the subject which has evidently gotten off track, but i went to valleyscare on staurday and checked out the situation on renegade and u cant go past the giftshop kittycorner from the pirateship. its all blocked off. and behind the giftshop is all cleared for the ride and there are piles if wood laying around the site. i mean i understand that u r all having an in depth coversation about b & m, but this is a valleyfair topic forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesdillaman Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 ^ Are there footers poured, yet? and has there been any mention of a webcam for this ride like at cedar point? -James Dillaman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkslipknot420 Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 no footers, just lots of orange cones for some wierd reason and its all dirt asnd stuff and i havent heard anything of a webcam. that would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterfriendly Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 I visit their website often, they're always putting in new stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedarPoint420 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Some new photos. http://www.valleyfair.com/public/information/photo_galleries/index.cfm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasAlvey Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Renagade looks fun. It looks like you get a lot of airtime. Cederfair always makes the best woodies except Mean Streak. Let's just hope it doesn't end up like Ghostrider and become super rough in 6 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesdillaman Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 When is GCI going to build one of their twisters with underground tunnels? With their tight turning radius, I think the possibilities are incredible! That aside, nice to see some grading being done at the site. I'd imagine footers will be dug once the site is graded. -James Dillaman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CP_RULES Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 Preparing to pour the concrete for the first slab of Renegade's footings. CF doing what CF does... -Justin "Who really likes CF" Seabaugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xme3 Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 Im glad my home park gets another good ride!! i love livng like 7 minutes away from this park! oh, and i was going to take pictures but the whole back of the park is closed off due to the construction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedarPoint420 Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Renegades vertical! http://www.valleyfair.com/public/information/photo_galleries/index.cfm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesdillaman Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Sweet! Can't wait, I need more GCII credits! -James Dillaman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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