larrygator Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 The pretzel loop is the one standout and at the same time polarizing element on the S:UF clones. Some people love the element, some hate it. Practically everyone agrees the rest of the ride is not very exciting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradox Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Tatsu's pretzel loop is crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gutterflower Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I'm a big fan of the B&M flyers in general and have a lot of love for Pretzels and the loop on Sky Ripper. Sky Ripper, Tatsu and Manta all sit in or near my top 10 with Crystal Wings leading the pack of S:UF clones a fair way down. I'm really intrigued to see what they do with this one. The space they have to work with doesn't seem that big for such a large coaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coaster1000 Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I've only been on one flyer, Tatsu, and it's my favorite B&M. More so than the inverted, hyper, floorless, sit-down and standup coasters from them I've ridden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerstlaueringvar Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 By unique I mean something other than lift, curved drop, pretzel loop, turn, roll, turn, roll, turn, brakes a sequence that every flyer except Starry Night Ripper seems to follow somewhat. If you think about it though, Starry Sky Ripper is kind of like a modified Vekoma Flying Dutchman with one unique element. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcjp Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I've only been on one flyer but I do enjoy the concept. It might me a gimmick but it's one that actually makes a big difference when you're riding. Plus I think pretzel loops are insane! One thing I'd like to see would be a low, close to the ground and fast section to take advantage of the flying position. I think it'd be more insteresting than some slower higher turns we usually see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerstlaueringvar Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I've only been on one flyer but I do enjoy the concept. It might me a gimmick but it's one that actually makes a big difference when you're riding. Plus I think pretzel loops are insane!One thing I'd like to see would be a low, close to the ground and fast section to take advantage of the flying position. I think it'd be more insteresting than some slower higher turns we usually see. Totally! Make a few turns that's low to the ground and twisty like Fury 325 and that will be perfect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcjp Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 ^That'd give an awesome sensation of speed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerstlaueringvar Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Lift hill is topped off! Source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gutterflower Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Drop is now mostly in. Looking good too More here https://twitter.com/made_in_USJ/status/655381272525586436 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoinItForTheFame Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 It looks so good!! I really like the colors! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmeister Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 I've only been on one flyer but I do enjoy the concept. It might me a gimmick but it's one that actually makes a big difference when you're riding. Plus I think pretzel loops are insane!One thing I'd like to see would be a low, close to the ground and fast section to take advantage of the flying position. I think it'd be more insteresting than some slower higher turns we usually see. This, I really like every flyer I've been on, in particular Tatsu. I think Tatsu could have been even better if it was more low to the ground like Ninja is. Maybe they could have had the first drop and inversion the same as it is now before going into a sequence of steep dives and sweeping turns following the terrain. That sensation of speed would've been insane! I'd even forgo the Pretzel loop as amazing as it is because I think that a terrain coaster that follows the landscape as closely as something like Ninja or Lisebergbanan is what would suit the flying coaster genre best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro1118 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 I've only been on one flyer but I do enjoy the concept. It might me a gimmick but it's one that actually makes a big difference when you're riding. Plus I think pretzel loops are insane!One thing I'd like to see would be a low, close to the ground and fast section to take advantage of the flying position. I think it'd be more insteresting than some slower higher turns we usually see. This, I really like every flyer I've been on, in particular Tatsu. I think Tatsu could have been even better if it was more low to the ground like Ninja is. Maybe they could have had the first drop and inversion the same as it is now before going into a sequence of steep dives and sweeping turns following the terrain. That sensation of speed would've been insane! I'd even forgo the Pretzel loop as amazing as it is because I think that a terrain coaster that follows the landscape as closely as something like Ninja or Lisebergbanan is what would suit the flying coaster genre best. I've never ridden Tatsu, but I always felt they made it so high up to take advantage of the hill it sits on, giving the sensation you are flying above the park much higher than what it is in reality. That first drop looks great! I always wanted to try a flyer with a steep, non-curved first drop like that. The back row should give a great experience on that element Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nrthwnd Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 I am willing to hope that this park will be exactly like how Japan does things, and out-theme anything that's out there, as a flyer coaster. How they'll design and build the flying dinosaurs that hold us up..... chills. I hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDG Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Flying Dinosaur update... photos: twitter.com/made_in_USJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking86 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 That drop definitely looks more intriguing than the long swooping drop found on most B&M flyers. Getting really interesting to follow the construction now that more and more of the layout is getting revealed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCoasterKid211 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 That drop definitely looks more intriguing than the long swooping drop found on most B&M flyers. I'm only used to Manta-style drops, very gentle, not much "swoop". This is going on my list! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRCT3 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 I LOVE that drop! But I'm kinda upset with all those twists... I want airtime or floating-time on a flyer, not rolls that have no purpose than to be disorienting and make me sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcjp Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Interesting drop.... This is starting to look pretty nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyRush Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 It looks great! Swooping curves all around! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nrthwnd Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 I Love Japan. It's going to rule the park, LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollerManic Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 The first element looks to be a 180 degree overbank. Anyone agree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoinItForTheFame Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 The coaster looks amazing!!! Can't wait to see more of it progress. However I can't help but wonder... why is this person holding a closed umbrella up, like it's open?? Like... do they not know it's closed?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom497 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 The umbrella person is probably a tour guide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garet Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 ^ Yea you beat me to it. A lot of tour groups went around Halloween week. One of my middle schoolers just came back from going last week during normal park hours and she said although Harry Potter was around 90 minutes, the line for Backwards Hollywood Dream (being one of the only rides that isn't an option on any of the express passes) was 4 hours long! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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