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MM needs to stop this "Full Throttle" project and really pour some money in other places.

 

No kidding fix what you have before adding more stop sacrificing the entire park for the coaster crown and other assorted world records for Gods sake

You took the words right out of my mouth!!!!!)

And mine! SFMM should put some serious emphasis on... well, pretty much everything but thrill rides! It goes without saying that family rides, more (or at least open ) kiddie rides, ride operation, and theming are all downfalls for the park.

 

Considering the lack of other rides, I can't say I'd be surprised that SFMM could once again be looking for another record-breaker as their 'big 2013 addition'. The rumor that some kind of launch coaster utilizing Metro's old tunnel and Log Jammer's area makes some sense to me. As to what kind of ride it could be, I'd really only guess Premier or Maurer X-Car, but what do I know?

 

I guess we won't know for sure until we see pictures of track or get an announcement...

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To be honest, I reckon the best idea would be for Intamin to redesign the system so it can straighten a car from any angle easily.

 

That would be the easy way out for the park, and why doesn't it already do that?

 

The system works as well as it is ever going to work, it is a similar system to the spinning mice coasters from Maurer, there is an auto leveller as you come into the station, however if the car is tilted past a certain angle it will end up levelling upside down! There is no way around this, not without spending some serious bucks (or you could just get lazy operators and park management to do some work).

 

In all seriousness, during Insane ERS we were coming into the station in all manner of angles, it was never a problem for the staff, and I also saw this during normal operation, so was not something exclusive to ERS.

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The reason why SFMM has had more bad than good days in the past years is due to the interaction with management and SFI. Whenever the park gets a bad manager, SFI simply ignores the situation as long as the park is continuing to make a profit. Whenever the park gets a good manager, like Jay, SFI takes notice to how well he is running the park, and promotes him to upper management. As a result, the park has now re-entered a never-ending cycle.

 

My prediction is that if you give the place a few years, and a new, good manager will be hired, only to see him be promoted to upper management, because of how well he/she fixes up the neglected park. As for the current management, I will need to see quite a few improvements before I can be convinced that the park is being run well.

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^ That's not really true though. Del Holland was the GM before Jay, and Holland had that position for like 20 years, and then retired. The cycle you speak of doesn't exist, unless the cycle is one person named Jay Thomas.

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Hope I haven't missed it being mentioned but the UK is running a show called 'Scream Extreme'.

 

Those who follow the Thorpe Park thread may have heard references to a show called 'Scream if You Know the Answer' which had list D celebs answering qustions and doing various daft challenges on the rides.

 

Well now this series has been filmed at SFMM. First show was aired on Sunday. Haven't watched it all yet. Here's the trailer link.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hD9l82UN0CI

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Well now this series has been filmed at SFMM. First show was aired on Sunday. Haven't watched it all yet. Here's the trailer link.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hD9l82UN0CI

 

I watched it on sunday... filmed last year and is OK to watch although all the ride footage gets chopped up ALOT. The contestants are ok although they yet again managed to turn it into UK Vs USA.

 

The z list celeb's just make me want to switch off though....

 

I only watched as I'll be there in a few weeks but looks like I'll miss out on Superman AND Lex Luthor

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^ It's hard enough watching Craig and Bruno on Strictly without seeing them yelping on Goliath.

 

Be thankful you're going at all even without LLDOD. Could be a long while before I get back now that we have a baby.

 

If you haven't been before you will love it. Blows any UK park out the water imo.

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Be thankful you're going at all even without LLDOD. Could be a long while before I get back now that we have a baby.

 

If you haven't been before you will love it. Blows any UK park out the water imo.

 

Thankfully I have been several times before but was hoping to get on LLDOD as I've already done the big drop in Australia. so it looks like I'll miss the drop AND backward Superman

 

Congratulations on the new baby !

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Ok, I just have to say a couple things. First, patience. I know that by the time 2013 comes around, people will stop complaining so much about SFMM and sart really having some positive things to say about the park. People need to start realizing that there will be positive changes to the park. The new attractions are the main focal point of what is happening, however there are a lot of smaller changes being made, and they are going to be really great.

Six Flags is not as pretty as Disneyland Resort or a Cedar Fair park, but thank goodness we have SFMM here, otherwise we would all be pretty bored without a major thrill park. Just bums me out NEVER hearing anyone here say positive things about SFMM. If it really bothers you, there's more that you can do to maybe contribute to some changes being made, but sitting at your computer and whining isn't going to do much.

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Ok, I just have to say a couple things. First, patience. I know that by the time 2013 comes around, people will stop complaining so much about SFMM and sart really having some positive things to say about the park. People need to start realizing that there will be positive changes to the park. The new attractions are the main focal point of what is happening, however there are a lot of smaller changes being made, and they are going to be really great.

Six Flags is not as pretty as Disneyland Resort or a Cedar Fair park, but thank goodness we have SFMM here, otherwise we would all be pretty bored without a major thrill park. Just bums me out NEVER hearing anyone here say positive things about SFMM. If it really bothers you, there's more that you can do to maybe contribute to some changes being made, but sitting at your computer and whining isn't going to do much.

 

As I already stated, and Robb later provided links to positive TR's...The park gets praise when it deserves it. But in the last few years, it really feels like they have just given up and are content with being the Xtreme park. Sure it is nice they are building new rides, but what is the point if their operation sucks?

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Green Lantern has a Single Rider line now? I didn't renew my pass this year, so I haven't been this season, but as far as I can recall from last year, there wasn't a single rider line. Is it reliably staffed?

I was there on Tuesday and it leads you up directly behind the control operator booth so there's someone there, I waited about 10 minutes for an open seat.

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^Tell me how attempting to make a ZacSpin a non-inverting ride is a "positive change".

 

 

More uptime leaving mechanics to do more important thing like fixing things that are actually broken?

 

If they 'fixed' GL then they could do that and run the ride the way it should be run.

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^Tell me how attempting to make a ZacSpin a non-inverting ride is a "positive change".

 

 

More uptime leaving mechanics to do more important thing like fixing things that are actually broken?

 

If they 'fixed' GL then they could do that and run the ride the way it should be run.

I'll play devil's advocate and say that it's already been stated that Insane and other Zacspins have the same issues issues that GL has.

However, it's up to the park to be prepared to handle the ride's issues with the way the cars come back into the station.

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^Tell me how attempting to make a ZacSpin a non-inverting ride is a "positive change".

 

 

More uptime leaving mechanics to do more important thing like fixing things that are actually broken?

 

If they 'fixed' GL then they could do that and run the ride the way it should be run.

I'll play devil's advocate and say that it's already been stated that Insane and other Zacspins have the same issues issues that GL has.

However, it's up to the park to be prepared to handle the ride's issues with the way the cars come back into the station.

 

Exactly. At some other parks they have staff ready at the ride to handle this, to 'fix' GL MM should do the same. Then at least this ride would be worth it to wait for.

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^What's frustrating is that the exit ride operator always has time in between cycles to stand there. It takes the entering ride ops more time to get passengers situated, so why can't the exit operators who are already there take 5 to 10 seconds to spin incoming cars??

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Ok, I just have to say a couple things. First, patience. I know that by the time 2013 comes around, people will stop complaining so much about SFMM and sart really having some positive things to say about the park. People need to start realizing that there will be positive changes to the park. The new attractions are the main focal point of what is happening, however there are a lot of smaller changes being made, and they are going to be really great.

Six Flags is not as pretty as Disneyland Resort or a Cedar Fair park, but thank goodness we have SFMM here, otherwise we would all be pretty bored without a major thrill park. Just bums me out NEVER hearing anyone here say positive things about SFMM. If it really bothers you, there's more that you can do to maybe contribute to some changes being made, but sitting at your computer and whining isn't going to do much.

 

Have you looked at the three links Robb provided? Those TRs were full of praise toward SFMM, and showed MULTIPLE changes during every trip.

 

 

EDIT: ^ I wouldn't say there's anything being repeated all that much. I've just learned over the past few pages that there is no 'fix' for GL other than having employees rotate the trains. And really, that means there's no 'fix' since SFMM will never allocate staff to do that job.

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As a side note to Magic Mountain's problems, what is really amazing is just how many talented people have worked at SFMM before moving on to bigger and better things at other parks because of bad management/low pay. They bolt for Universal or Disney as fast as they can, though all would probably still be at SFMM if the working environment was better...

 

Seems like I have done it in reverse working for WDI at Imagineering in Glendale/Burbank?Tujunga during the Disney Decade (85-92). Did Hydraulics and Pneumatics on so many things such as Star Tours. Muppet's, Indy Jones, Tower of Terror, hardest think i did was hydraulics on Ailen Encounter figure for WDW ... and LOL my biggest failure in Rivers of America the "Swimming Beaver" but at least the jumping fish worked.

 

Now being at SFMM for the past year I no longer use a wrench and could care less about p.s.i. but regardless of my position I do the best job I can with what I have to work with. While its true I don't make the sick ass money Imagineering paid me all is good to me and I'm happy not being a grunt.

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^You are an exception, not the rule for sure. Just from the group of people I worked with at SFMM (01-03), there are Disney managers and leads, and another group of mechanics/electricians/programmers that started at SFMM and left for USH as soon as they could.

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Am I the only one that thinks Green Lantern is a better ride when it doesn't flip? The flipping almost gave me an aneurysm, the people in the car behind us got stacked in the brake run for like 30 seconds upside down before finally turning right-side up. We legitimately thought they were stuck upside down.

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