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About WCB, I think it is a VERY reasonable price!

I've only been to SFMM once (back in 2007) and $53 for an EVENT there sounds like an AMAZING deal!!! I'd gladly pay $53 to attend. Gladly.

Especially considering that if I went online right now it would cost me $39.99 for a one-day click n print admission ticket. Anyone that is trying to argue that all the ERT, two meals, parking, and the other extras that the park puts on for us isn't worth $13 is an idiot. Sorry, but it's totally true.

 

--Robb "I don't want people at the event that think it's not a good value for money...those people can stay home!" Alvey

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There is another video on youtube of S:EFK testing from a more closer/frontward angle, you can see the train which looks to be all blue, and it looks to have the same seating arrangement as TOT2. Also in this video, you can see how far to the top it launches before the brakes.

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ERT (since you can't buy ERT, substitute a regular Flash Pass)-$41

 

Keep in mind there are other things included (such as the Q&A session) that are difficult to put a price on. I know this is just a rough estimate, but it certainly makes $53 look like a really good value.

 

VIP ticket's cost 299.99 at SFMM.

 

www.sixflags.com/magicMountain/tickets/viptours.aspx

 

which includes:

 

Front of the line access all day, every ride. (No getting off then getting right back on the same ride. Not like there's a huge point to at SFMM.) Private guided tour. I'm not sure what this entails or how it differs from WCB's tour. I won't make it to WCB this year, but I did win a package of 4 VIP tickets to either SFMM or SFDK. (choices, choices, choices. LMAO.) So I'll get some video/pictures of that experience won't be going until all the rides are confirmed open. But i'm kind of betting Rob already experienced both and could tell us the difference if he has.

 

 

That said, WCB is well worth it to anyone within 100 or so miles of SFMM.

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WCB is an incredible value for just the ERT alone, never mind the free parking, meals, backstage access, etc. I think that people need to keep in mind that the parks don't have to do these kinds of events for us. It's only through hard work, dedication, and the great relationships built up by the leaders of sites like TPR and Rideworld, that we even have these opportunities at all. A few more bucks, or even 10, or 20, just isn't enough to quibble over when you consider what you get for the relatively small amount that you pay. If that few more bucks keeps some of the complainers from attending, all the better. I'd rather spend my time at these events with people that truly appreciate them anyway. For what it's worth, count me as signed up if for any reason either park does decide to offer an add-on dinner option. The dinner add-on at SFMM was an incredible value for whatever it was that we paid for it. (I think it was like $10 or $15 wasn't it?) The spread they laid out, especially the pasta and meatballs, was awesome, and... We got a great big HUGE dessert on top of that, along with all the soda or iced tea you cared to drink. Anyone (who doesn't have specific dietary requirements) that wouldn't want to take advantage of that deal doesn't know the meaning of the word value.

 

As for the S:EFK testing, I'll be happy if it just reaches the red portion of the tower during normal operating mode. Anything above that will be a bonus. I'll take the testing with a grain of salt until we actually see it run with full trains of riders in normal operation.

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Does anyone know the seat configurations for S:EFK yet? Would it be the same as ToT2? Thanks.

 

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It probably would be. I'm guessing that the restraint system is the only major difference in the seating, besides the fact that it's backwards, so I'd imagine that it still has 15 seats with 1 row of 3 and 3 rows of 4 like the last train.

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Here is a link to another video of Superman testing from youtube. It is shot from close to the tower and you can see a detailed look at the train. Enjoy.

 

 

ADMIT EDIT: We have a feature where you can embed YouTube videos into your post so you don't have to click, open up another browser, and watch the video. Please use that feature next time.

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^Why is the entire train colored blue? I'd imagine a train with at least 2 or 3 different colors for it.

 

Other than that, the coaster does look great and I can't wait to see it myself someday.

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"I'd imagine that it still has 15 seats with 1 row of 3 and 3 rows of 4 like the last train." (Six Flags Enthuseast)

 

From what I've seen, the configuration will be two seats in the front row (well, back row since it's going backwards), then four across in the other rows for a total of 14 riders per car. I believe that's how it is on ToT. Perhaps one of our readers from Down Under can verify that.

 

One concern I have is how much longer will it take to load/unload riders with these OTSRs? The old lap bar was fairly simple, and I could usually time dispatches at about a minute-and-a-half to two minutes apart.

 

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^Assuming that OTSR would have a seatbelt (like on most Intamins with OTSR's) I'd expect loading to be quite longer. Then again, if they're going to be using both sides again, that should make up for the capacity loss.

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^Why is the entire train colored blue?

Why does that whole video seem completely over saturated and ugly? It's either a really terrible cell phone camera or they did something to it before it was uploaded.

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^Why is the entire train colored blue?

Why does that whole video seem completely over saturated and ugly? It's either a really terrible cell phone camera or they did something to it before it was uploaded.

 

It wasn't an iPhone 4 Robb! Probably one of those Droids lol.

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^ It doesn't look like it. if you watch it on YouTube, looks like it's not the same aspect ratio as what the iPhone 4 shoots. Unless of course they brought it into Premiere or after effects and messed with it.

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"I'd imagine that it still has 15 seats with 1 row of 3 and 3 rows of 4 like the last train." (Six Flags Enthuseast)

 

From what I've seen, the configuration will be two seats in the front row (well, back row since it's going backwards), then four across in the other rows for a total of 14 riders per car. I believe that's how it is on ToT. Perhaps one of our readers from Down Under can verify that.

You're right, I just noticed in the video that it has 2 for the 1st row and then 4 for the rest of the rows. I'm sure that'll negatively affect the wait time for the front (or back?), since the front row seemed to have longer lines than any other rows and had only 3 seats.

 

And is it just me, or does the car appear to be testing forwards in the new video?

 

EDIT: My eyes decieve me! Yeah, it's definitely testing backwards. Nevermind.

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^I found that the person who recorded the video also posted pictures of the coaster on this website: http://planetsix.weebly.com/news.html

If you look closely, the coaster is testing backwards. The website also states that the coaster "will only be receiving the one new car, as the ride will operate with one side backwards, with the other still forwards with the classic car."

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Regarding the color of the train - have you guys thought that maybe one side will have a blue car, and the other will have a red? I think that'd be sweet!

 

As high as it is getting on the tower, it still looks very slow to me.. How fast is it going do you guys think?

 

To go that high the ride definitely has to be hitting over 90 now. I'd say it's going more in the 95 - 100 MPH range, and lets hope it stays that way. The ride looks SO GOOD getting so close to the brakes, just like it was originally designed to!

 

In the past decade or so when Superman: The Escape tested each morning, it did go higher up the tower empty than with people in the car, but it still only went about 4 "sections" below the brakes. This train is going MUCH higher than I've seen it in the past 10-12 years, as I haven't seen a train go that high since the ride was open for season pass-holders in 1997.

 

But as Robb said the ride is only testing, who knows how it will run once opened. However, I think it's a good sign that they're actually getting the ride up that high now, especially if they can do it consistently. The problem was never that the ride couldn't go that fast, it was that it couldn't consistently go that fast without shutting down every 2-3 cycles.

 

How is the noise level? Can you still hear it all over the park?

 

Eric

 

This question has been answered before, and the answer was that the ride will still sound the same. The sound you're hearing is the lateral bogeys rubbing up against the rail in the center of the track. Because of its unique desing, the ride allows VERY MINIMAL lateral movement because of the LSMs tight fit between the cars magnets, and therefore has has bogeys with metal wheels rubbing up against that center metal rail to restrict the amount of lateral "play" over time as cycle numbers increase.

 

It has nothing to do with the ride wheels, upstop wheels, or car design.

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That set of brakes at the top of the tower, where they ever designed to hold the car there for a short time. My thinking is something like the impulse coasters do on their last run backwards. That would be sweet, stalling 400' in the air!

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^I found that the person who recorded the video also posted pictures of the coaster on this website: http://planetsix.weebly.com/news.html

If you look closely, the coaster is testing backwards. The website also states that the coaster "will only be receiving the one new car, as the ride will operate with one side backwards, with the other still forwards with the classic car."

Wow, so I guess it'll still have a 'classic car' with lap bars. I guess things have changed since the promo video?

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