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Two things came to mind about this announcement:

-Let round 2 of the coaster wars begin between Cedar Point and SFMM begin.

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-Go Big Go Six Flags = The Xtreme Park.

 

While it does seem like this, but then again it is Six Flags's 40th Anniversery next year and we should at least let them celebrate a little. Good to hear about a ZacSpin coming to America.

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Can't decide if I love the superman renovation or not.

 

I love the new cars and paint job (Are they new cars, or renovated old cars?)

 

I hate the OTSRs. Part of what made superman so thrilling was the fact that only a lap bar held you in.

 

Some musings/questions

 

The cars look to be redesigned, smaller, more streamlined (As I imagine they'd have to be to run in the other direction)... does this mean there might be some reduction in the noise created when the things launch? ANY reduction in that racket would be appreciated like nothing else.

 

Any idea if the renovation includes a launch system upgrade? I remember in a WCB years ago it was mentioned that it was the computer system that prevented the ride from reliably hitting 100 mph and maybe someday they'd get the cash to renovate the deal and crank it up there again. Computers have come a ways since the 90s.

 

In the end, this is definitely a positive development for the park. I'm not too worried about the 'turning into an XTREME park again' bit... these plans were likely in development years ago, even under the 'let's bring families back' days. Do I think we still need some quality flats? You betcha, but this feels a lot more like a 'We need to fix what's there, but we can't market updated Superman and a kiddie ride... what can we do that will be exciting, still relatively inexpensive, and let us hit the marketing hard?'

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I know for a fact that if you have two pretty big guys on one side, Insane is pretty damn scary!

 

Yay! I'm a big guy! Hopefully not too big though, I do want to fit!

 

I keep watching the video hoping to find the message "Suck it, Cedar Point!" in the clouds somewhere.

 

Here's to hoping they improve Superman's launch so the train actually makes it to the red section of the tower.

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From a coaster enthusiast standpoint...this is an awesome investment. From a business standpoint, this is a bad investment. Realistically, these additions/improvements should have been made over the course of a few years. Putting multiple thrill rides in one year is what buried Six Flags in debt in the first place. It would have been a better idea to renovate Superman and add the kid coaster this year and in two years add the Green Lantern. I just hope that this is not the new "Six Flags" trend. I don't want to see them go under for good. And in all honesty, the one thing that Magic Mountain needs is rides with good airtime. Not more loops and spins.

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^I don't really think this is that huge of an investment on the part of Six Flags. If you think about it, they're really only paying 7 million for Green Lantern (based on the cost of Insane), maybe a million for the Superman refurbishment, and then a little more for the re-located kiddie coaster.

 

To be technical, isn't it 19 coasters as Colossus is clearly two different tracks? Just wondering.

 

It's just 18, Colossus only counts as a single coaster.

I find that interesting just because Six Flags Great America counts American Eagle as 2.

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And in all honesty, the one thing that Magic Mountain needs is rides with good airtime. Not more loops and spins.

 

I don't "Airtime" is something that will get more attention from the General public. I think gimmicks are what bring people to the park. Most visitors run to rides that feature outrageous designs like X2 and Tatsu.

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for a coaster with airtime at the mountain, but I just don't see how that would be a more successful investment than what they are doing right now.

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I checked closely in the animation, and it looks like Tidal Wave is staying, you can see in the video (picture below, it's blurred but you can sorta make out Tidal Wave) that it is in the location of the former freefall ride.

 

Just speaking that renderings can change...at Canada's Wonderland for example the animation for the new Windseeker shows the ride Jet Scream still there, when in fact it's already been closed an announce officially to be removed for the 2011 season. So, always take renderings as a rough idea.

 

Back on to the announcement though, I just made it to SFMM for the first time this past summer and now I gotta say, I wanna go back next summer. I am intruiged with the ZacSpin...not "thrilled" but something I would like to experience.

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So is this is the reason SFMM Facebook page has been put on lock the wall posting has been disabled. I guess b/c their big announcement has been leaked.

 

I can not believe SFMM will be the first park in the USA with a Zacspin I can not wait to ride this machine. I also love the theme and the location is perfect. Hopefully this will lead to future Intamins being installed they should replace Tidal wave with a Mega Splash

 

Superman looks great too! I didn't think I'd like the tower being painted but it looks awesome, the cars look great and if it goes that high up the tower then wholly barf bags Batman my stomach might just fly out of my face.

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Looks awesome! It's been over 4 years since I've been there...definitely have to get out there again! Honestly, it doesn't really matter who has the most coasters, because in the end, we're the ones that "win."

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^^^^^^ Technically, they are only putting in ONE new Thrill ride.....they are refurbishing another, and the third is a kiddie ride....the main focus for the park next year, in advertising, will be Green Lantern and a "new" Superman adventure, the( I believe yet to be truly named), "Kids Coaster" will just be the icing on the cake. As for the layout of Green Lantern, what the video shows could be the actual layout, or the person who created it could have just thrown in the standard "Insane" layout, and it could be something totally different in the end.

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For those of you bigger guys worrying...don't!

 

We got some really big guys on Insane in Sweden so it shouldn't be a problem. Guys that did not get on an Intamin T-Bar Hyper DID get on Insane. I'd say if you can use the Intamin OTSR's you'll be fine on it.

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I wanna know why they have totally overlooked any animation on the "Kids coaster." That's what I am most excited about. I'll bet it's because it's gonna be so thrilling that an animation can't do it justice.

 

Guy"They can call it "CHUCK NORRIS the ride! "Koepp

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^I don't really think this is that huge of an investment on the part of Six Flags. If you think about it, they're really only paying 7 million for Green Lantern (based on the cost of Insane), maybe a million for the Superman refurbishment, and then a little more for the re-located kiddie coaster.

 

But it sets the stage for enthusi"ass" bitching when SFMM doesn't get a new coaster in 2012 or 2013. Enthusiasses have short term memories.

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Guy"They can call it "CHUCK NORRIS the ride! "Koepp

 

But if they did the entire park would just explode from the ride's unworthiness of being called Chuck Norris the Ride!

 

Unless Chuck Norris himself calls it that. Then it would become the most epic of all roller coasters in existence

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BTW, just because I love the Intamin ZacSpins so much here's a nice picture of one of the cars so you guys who have not experienced one yet can get an idea...

 

 

And yes, my face is pretty much "WTF JUST HAPPENED?!?!"

 

Amazing ride...and nice riding company as well!

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I guess I missed it, but where is the Kiddie Coaster going?

 

Also, a bit off topic but any idea if any of the parts from Flashback/Z-Force were saved? I'm specifically wondering about the cars...and also wondering if they have/are planning to put anything in Flashback's old footprint?

 

Great news for the park, overall! Interesting how concerned they are with having the "title" - they must have done some research that shows that more than just "enthusiasts" care about such a thing, right?

 

Can't wait to get back to the park, still haven't been on Tatsu, X2 OR Terminator - so the new stuff for next year will make for a busy day for when I do make it back!!

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I guess I missed it, but where is the Kiddie Coaster going?

 

By Terminator and Deja Vu.

 

Also, a bit off topic but any idea if any of the parts from Flashback/Z-Force were saved? I'm specifically wondering about the cars...and also wondering if they have/are planning to put anything in Flashback's old footprint?

This will answer you first question:

http://www.themeparkreview.com/sfmmdvdparty/sfmmdvdparty3.htm

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From a coaster enthusiast standpoint...this is an awesome investment. From a business standpoint, this is a bad investment. Realistically, these additions/improvements should have been made over the course of a few years. Putting multiple thrill rides in one year is what buried Six Flags in debt in the first place. It would have been a better idea to renovate Superman and add the kid coaster this year and in two years add the Green Lantern. I just hope that this is not the new "Six Flags" trend. I don't want to see them go under for good. And in all honesty, the one thing that Magic Mountain needs is rides with good airtime. Not more loops and spins.

 

The Kiddie Coaster is already paid for. The land is already somewhat cleared (assuming it's still going near Deja Vu). For Superman, you double whatever was paid for Tower of Terror II down under (but without the tunnel). If Green Lantern goes where Freefall was, the land is already somewhat cleared.

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