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I personally love Scream...and think the name is actually really good...if it had been placed elsewhere in the park, say where Tidal Wave is now...then you all would be feeling totally different about it.

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^ Maybe they should consider moving Scream! over to that area and giving it a new theme. Just a thought.

 

I've often wondered if Scream! and Colossus aren't that busy is partly because you have to walk a ways to get there---and there isn't much to see or do in that area. And, admittedly, these days Colossus ain't what it used to be. Perhaps after a Texas Giant style makeover in a couple of years that could change.

 

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I think the biggest problem with Scream is the lack of anything unique about the ride combined with its location. I went the summer the ride opened and it never had longer than a thirty minute wait while I was there. Unless it is running one train, the ride never has more than a ten minute wait anymore. Like others have said, the ride would have been more successful if installed somewhere else in the park.

 

The lack of anything unique is the other main factor contributing to the lack of popularity with the ride. When it was installed, the park already had Viper, Batman the Ride, and Riddler's Revenge. Scream essentially combines elements of all three of those coasters, and didn't really fill a niche that wasn't already occupied. In addition, Scream doesn't have a unique element or some type of record-breaking claim, so it is difficult to market. When I go, it seems like about two-thirds of the people getting in line for Scream are getting off of Colossus because the right track empties directly into the entrance plaza for Scream.

 

Personally, I think Scream is probably my favorite second-tier coaster in the park (6th overall). I try to ride it once or twice each time I visit, but don't worry much if I don't get to it. I don't find it to be rough at all, and most of my friends say the same. If they remove it, the park won't really lose anything but I'm guessing they'll keep it around for at least a few more years.

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I'm not really a fan of Scream. When I rode it back in April, I was extremely disappointed by the ride in general. I placed it 8th on my Top 10 list with 9th being Superman and 10th being X2. When something 'nice' does happen to Superman, I'm sure Scream will move to 9th place, due to me nearly preferring even Superman over it. It's just too rough. And it's location doesn't help at all. Neither do it's awful colors!

 

Well then I guess you haven't ridden Viper if you think Scream is rough. Here we go with the parking lot nonsense again... okay it's over a parking lot...SO WHAT, it's still a fun ride and I have to wonder, all these people that bring up the parking lot thing every frikin single time this ride is mentioned, is that all you think about when you ride it, really? That would be sad. Yes, we know it's over a parking lot people have been saying that for YEARS now, can we just move on please? And you know if Scream was gone tomorrow these same people would all of a sudden be complaining that it got removed......whatever.

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I think if they moved scream where Tidal Wave is and give it some Gotham theming it would do pretty good. Figure you would have three B & M coasters, of different types, themed as different Batman characters. How could you go wrong, but what character?

 

PS- I think Scream is pretty awesome, I think themeing and location are it's only issues.

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I think if they moved scream where Tidal Wave is and give it some Gotham theming it would do pretty good. Figure you would have three B & M coasters, of different types, themed as different Batman characters. How could you go wrong, but what character?

 

PS- I think Scream is pretty awesome, I think themeing and location are it's only issues.

 

 

How many rides can SF add Gotham theming to? Its getting old. I am not a big fan of Scream either. It was a cookie cutter built for the number.

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I really enjoyed Scream when I was there. As has been said already why complain about a ride you don't need to stand in a huge line for?

 

In any other park it would be one of the main attractions imo.

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If they remove it, the park won't really lose anything but I'm guessing they'll keep it around for at least a few more years.

 

MM has the most inversions in a single park so you would bring your count down to 28 by removing Scream! You'd still be in the lead however!

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For those people who consistently comment about Scream being a parking lot coaster....well, so is Collosus and Goliath....they are both directly over the parking lot as well....sheesh, enough already....

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Scream isn't one of my favorite coasters, but it was my Son's first 54" coaster so he still loves it. Although now that he's ridden Batman and Riddlers, he doesn't care about Scream as much anymore. Go figure.

 

I also agree that Scream would look awesome in Ninja's spot at SFOG.

 

I think the issue with Scream is the fact that you have Batman, Riddlers and Tatsu in the same park. It's definitely the worst of the B&M's in the park. Even Batman doesn't have that long of a line anymore and I'd MUCH rather ride that than Scream.

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Just got back from a trip to the Mountain with my friend Jeremy (chickenbowl). It was pretty crowded for a Tuesday (Goliath had an hour wait!), but we still got in a lot of rides. We went to Goliath first which was good because it was not crowded at all on thaat side of the park. We also tried out that soad machine in the 6F store, and all I can say is Red Blitz Vault for the win! Tatsu was closed and when we got off X2 around 4:00 we noticed a crane on Tatsu. So we took a look at it and there were mechanics welding the ride around the pretzel loop. It was very interesting. So after that we rode Revolution and Viper, and the Arrow Magic Seat does exist! I have never had that good of a ride on Viper before, usually that first loop is pretty rough but this time it was smooth as glass. I did feel a little head banging in the batwing but it was nothing too bad. I also had an amazing ride on Terminator in the very back row. On that first drop it was nothing but airtime, it was crazy! All in all it was an awesome day at the park. Oh and and a few other things,we also tried out that soad machine in the 6F store, and all I can say is Red Blitz Vault for the win! And at the main store (I forget what it is called) and all around the park they are selling Bizarro merch. Jackets, shirts, and capes. Makes me wonder...

 

Ride count:

Goliath x1

Batman x2

Deja Vu x1

Terminator x2

Ninja x1

Log Jammer x1

Collosus x1

Scream x1

Riddlers x1

Goldrusher x1

Dive Devil x1

X2 x1

Tidal Wave x1

Jet Stream x1

Revolution x1

Viper x3

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What was the arrow magic seat?

Hmm, maybe there trying to make Tatsu's loop smoother.

I love Scream! It's just like Bizarro but without the audio, "S" shields, fire, and saw blade. If they took it down, Medusa would probably be the B&M floorless in Califormia.

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For those people who consistently comment about Scream being a parking lot coaster....well, so is Collosus and Goliath....they are both directly over the parking lot as well....sheesh, enough already....

 

THANK YOU!!! I never understood why people complained about Scream being over a parking lot when Collosus is sitting on the same piece of land; it's just been 32 years so the white lines of the old parking lot have faded.

 

 

Getting back to Superman, I look forward to whatever SFMM has in store. It's one of my favorite rides in the park. Granted the force is gone but it's still a fun experience. I'm hoping hey can redo the technology and get it back to the full 100 mph if not faster. A backwords side would be awesome as well but I'm not getting my hopes up for that. I know people complain about the lack of thrill on Superman but if you notice it's still after over 10 years one of those rides that people are "scared" to ride. It always have a ton of family/friends who chickened out waiting in the courtyard area and I don't think there wasn't a time when I've walked into the Fortress of Solitude that there wasn't people out front talking one or two of their friends/family into riding. "Don't be Chicken Carlos..."

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I think if they moved scream where Tidal Wave is and give it some Gotham theming it would do pretty good. Figure you would have three B & M coasters, of different types, themed as different Batman characters. How could you go wrong, but what character?

 

PS- I think Scream is pretty awesome, I think themeing and location are it's only issues.

 

 

How many rides can SF add Gotham theming to? Its getting old. I am not a big fan of Scream either. It was a cookie cutter built for the number.

 

Easy answer: as many as it takes. Thats like asking how many rides can California Adventure add Disney theming to. I mean if you have licensed characters you use them. At any other park Scream would be a top coaster, it just has to be in he shadow of a lot of other great coasters at SFMM and it's buddy Colossus has declined in popularity and doesn't get many people over to that part of the park. Theme it Bane put it where Tidal wave is, the GP will think it's a totally new coaster.

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I've always said Scream could be a main attraction at another park.

Just like at SFDK, Medusa is their star coaster and it's a floorless of the same height and same number of inversions.

 

When I went to Magic Mountain I didn't even bother with Scream since my home park is SFDK and it looked exactly like Mudusa from a non-rider POV. I also din't go on batman since it reminded me as topgun/flight deck from California Great America (formally Paramount great America before the CBS/Viacom split)

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For those people here who think Scream is just a "cookie cutter coaster"....think about this....so is Viper, Deja Vu, Batman, and Goliath....yes some of those were the first of their kind....but geez....Batmans are everywhere....there were 3 Viper style coasters and 4 deja vu's....and a better Goliath in Texas

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I don't know what everyone's complaint is, heck I'm happy that SFMM is there and I have a place to go on vacation to ride coasters. I don't care if they are cookie cutter, or a little rough. Come to Vegas and ride the Manhattan Express or the Desperado on a bad day, then tell me about rough. I make it a point to try and get on everything when I get out there, I just enjoy coasters! Instead of complaing about it, I just want to go and have fun at the park.

Also on the subject of food from a few pages back, does anyone else make it a must to grab some french fries from the Fresh Cut Fries booth across from the Goliath entrance? I love their Cajun Fries!!! They are a must on every visit to the mountain for me!!

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Gosh, I hope the park doesn't agree with many of you about Scream. I love the ride, and it has the only Cobra Roll in the park. Which other park can you think of that has both a Batwing and Cobra Roll?

 

Regardless if its over a parking lot or not, its a nice ride with a short line mostly because of its train design. I love Scream and hope it never leaves. Instead, I'd wish they'd do something about it surrounding environment.

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Gosh, I hope the park doesn't agree with many of you about Scream. I love the ride, and it has the only Cobra Roll in the park. Which other park can you think of that has both a Batwing and Cobra Roll?

 

If you're referring to the double inversion on Viper that's right after the mid-course brake run, Arrow calls is a Boomerang element...not a Batwing.

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^ Yea, everybody should be fortunate that SFMM has the rides that they have. I mean look, most people would only dream of living near a theme park like that. I know I do.

 

Exactly, I feel the same way and I have to drive six hours to get to the park. Over a parking lot? Who cares! Its a fun ride and that should be what matters most. Sure it would be nice to see something around it, I mean why not? But something silly like that is not going to ruin my experience on it or Goliath or Colossus or any other ride built on a parking lot. I'm not going to drive for six hours just to get all the way down there and say "oh, its over a parking lot, no thanks" that would just be stupid!

 

Fresh cut fries across from Goliath? Will for sure do that....mmmm!

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