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Thankfully the fire didn't turn into anything major so hopefully this acts as a rude awakening for Magic Mountain management as there was a serious lack of emergency preparedness. I have worked at Disneyland, Universal, Knott's, and Magic Mountain, and the amount of emergency training and awareness that employees receive follows that same order.

 

I genuinely hope that Six Flags takes this close call and learns from it, but the park and company never fail to disappoint so my expectations are low.

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The bad part is, the fire department was saying to shelter in place inside the park, and employees were telling everyone to leave. I was stuck in my car for an hour in the parking lot with no water, no bathroom, and a palm tree burning 50 feet away from me.

 

That’s a huge problem. A major disconnect between the park and FD. I’m guessing the park doesn’t know what shelter in place means.

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The bad part is, the fire department was saying to shelter in place inside the park, and employees were telling everyone to leave. I was stuck in my car for an hour in the parking lot with no water, no bathroom, and a palm tree burning 50 feet away from me.

 

That’s a huge problem. A major disconnect between the park and FD. I’m guessing the park doesn’t know what shelter in place means.

 

It's easy to play armchair QB at this point, but unfortunately we don't know the exact timeline. Perhaps the situation changed from the time they initially called the park. The fire appears to have started north of the park and burned its way towards Magic Mountain parkway, so it's reasonable to assume the initial plan was to close the park for smoke and traffic issues BEFORE it burned towards the entrance road.

 

My outside observation is the one thing SFMM should have done better is they should have had more team members in the parking lot providing the most up to date information.

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I really like the color scheme they chose for West Coast Racers. It contrasts with Ninja but also blends in perfectly with the area.

 

I'll be here on Saturday (mostly just to get my sister her membership activated), so despite the crazy crowds I'm expecting, I will try to grab some photos of WCR if any new progress is made by then.

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Just got into the park. So far I've tried X2, Viper, Tatsu, Ninja. All freaking. Closed! This is ridiculous!

Go take your complaints to guest services. We are sick of hearing them.

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Just got into the park. So far I've tried X2, Viper, Tatsu, Ninja. All freaking. Closed! This is ridiculous!

 

... f*cking really?

 

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Yes fucking really. Season passholders and members are let in at 10:20

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Just got into the park. So far I've tried X2, Viper, Tatsu, Ninja. All freaking. Closed! This is ridiculous!

 

... f*cking really?

 

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Yes fucking really. Season passholders and members are let in at 10:20

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Just got into the park. So far I've tried X2, Viper, Tatsu, Ninja. All freaking. Closed! This is ridiculous!

 

... f*cking really?

 

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Yes fucking really. Season passholders and members are let in at 10:20

 

Granted most of my experience is Asian parks, but I thought most parks that let people in early normally the idea is just that it gives you the chance to be front of a line before the crowds get there in that time for when the ride does actually open?

 

My last two park trips were Gyeongju World and Everland. I always head back to Phatheon since Gyeongju World always has a sign apologizing for block testing to finish for the first 10-15 minutes before Draken opens (and Phantheon has one train so it'll end up being the biggest line later) and Everland lets crowds in early because it's so busy that crowds block off the ticket booths and every morning I avoid T Express because even if it does open exactly with the park it can be one train ready and one being prepped and tested so I just wait until it's 2-3 train operation since a transfer really can slow down the wait.

 

My point being the staff already have a long shift and I don't think people realize how much checks and tests have to go into getting it completely up and running.

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I thought most parks that let people in early normally the idea is just that it gives you the chance to be front of a line before the crowds get there in that time for when the ride does actually open

 

At most Six Flags parks that’s exactly what it means. It’s not Cedar Fair where they actually open rides early (shut up in advance people from Georgia who want to gloat). Sometimes rides will finish testing and open early at Six Flags but that should be looked at as a bonus.

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When I was an op at SFWoA we were instructed to open our lines when our ride was ready to open. However, that typically only meant 5-10 minutes before rope drop.

 

People need to realize that every ride goes through required maintenance over night and early morning and needs to be inspected and signed off that they're okay to operate before ride ops can even begin their morning opening procedures and testing. It's not as simple as turning the ride off at close and turning it back on in the morning.

 

This can take awhile as most parks probably only have between 5-10 overnight mechanics and maybe double that for morning/day shift mechanics. Some mechanics are dedicated to only 1-2 rides when it comes to coasters. Other mechanics could have between 5-10 rides they're responsible for. Sadly it's not a 1:1 ratio. As good as parks like Point are even they don't have 1 mechanic per ride.

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The whole point of the early entry for passholders is to get away from the initial gate rush. Not "we are giving you 10 minutes of ERT."

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I am a member too, and use these few extra minutes to go towards Full Throttle and/or get a refill. Or get the fastlanes, etc, I think the extra time is handy to have actually.

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The walk of shame, I mean guilt.

When the station's flashpass entrance is through the exit instead of being intertwined with the regular people once you get to the front. Ninja and GoldRusher are the two I can think of that make you do that. I think Goliath used to have it that way a couple years ago, until they changed it and made flashpassers go down the stairs around the back and up the stairs to meet with the regular line.

To make it worse, Ninja is only running one train, with a 100 minute wait time. And then here I come, through the exit gate keeping my eyes at the floor as I pick my seat, so I don't have to look at those poorly faces who have been waiting for an hour in the heat, who were so excited because they finally made it to the front and this train was suppose to be theirs, but then all of a sudden the flash pass herd comes and now you, who is in the regular line, have to wait another 3 minutes for the next train.

And then as a flash passer, you sit there for about a minute in front of everyone while the attendants check each restraint trying not to make eye contact with the people in line.

But boy do I freakin love flash passes. I am sorry for not being sorry. I do wish MM could have better line queuing. I like how they do the lines for Full Throttle.

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I've been going to KI all my life, so I must ask. What is this "one-train operation" you speak of?

 

I thought that was just for like kiddie coasters, shuttles, and whatnot.

 

(But all joking aside, that wait for Ninja sounds effing brutal - typically not a good thing when the number of lifts a ride has exceeds its number of trains in operation!)

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I've been going to KI all my life, so I must ask. What is this "one-train operation" you speak of?

 

I thought that was just for like kiddie coasters, shuttles, and whatnot.

 

(But all joking aside, that wait for Ninja sounds effing brutal - typically not a good thing when the number of lifts a ride has exceeds its number of trains in operation!)

When I went, they only had one train running for Ninja, Scream, Superman, and Tidal Wave. I also heard someone say Riddlers Revenge was only using one train too but I cant confirm that one. They have been running one train on Scream for a couple weeks now. However for a good reason, someone spotted new trains in the dirt near the ride. Now add flashplass to that line.

 

When I went on Tidal wave, they let like 10 flash passers on, I had the whole row to myself and like 2 other rows behind me were empty. I Thought that maybe they would open the gate for the regular line to fill in the rows, but they didnt. They started the ride with only flash passers on it when there was tons of space left. It is quite ridiculous.

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Well, I am going back to CA this year! Bad news is that mean 1 train ops and dealing with Six Flags-ness

Only/last time I went was for an event so had ERT and the park kind of ran itself well. No such luck this time

 

I was thinking early Sept. What crowds can be expected, though I assume fast lane is necessary? Would crowds be any better on a week day?

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