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I thought DE members got some sort of extra preferred parking with much lower capacity, which is supposedly even closer than the normal preferred parking for most members, but I may be mis-remembering, and this could all just be made up

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I thought DE members got some sort of extra preferred parking with much lower capacity, which is supposedly even closer than the normal preferred parking for most members, but I may be mis-remembering, and this could all just be made up

 

For Diamond Elite, it's worded as "Priority Perferred Parking." Which sounds like it's kinda false advertising if they have open spaces for GP to buy, but say their "full" for DE members.

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^I agree and I think SFMMFan's criticism was completely valid therefore. I'll defend parks on a lot of things but Six Flags is notoriously bad at minimizing mistakes with new policies/programs when it comes to execution. They definitely need to work out this system across the board (with memberships) despite how happy I am with the concept in general.

 

Also, if you think Speedy is good, try Canyon Blaster. (I'm only half kidding, lol).

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Howdy all - I am headed to SoCal during the first week of July with my family. We are hoping to hit SFMM while we are there. We know it will be a busy week, but it's the only time we're able to go. We don't have season passes, and don't live near enough a Six Flags park to get one (for the time being), so this will be a one and done for all of us. Currently I think the best deal is to get our tickets online at least one full day prior to our visit, or bring a Coke can to get $20 off the ticket booth price.

 

Are any of you aware of any other local deals (supermarkets, convenience stores, Costco, etc.) that might have a good price for a one-day park admission?

 

Thanks in advance!

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^I agree and I think SFMMFan's criticism was completely valid therefore. I'll defend parks on a lot of things but Six Flags is notoriously bad at minimizing mistakes with new policies/programs when it comes to execution. They definitely need to work out this system across the board (with memberships) despite how happy I am with the concept in general.

 

Also, if you think Speedy is good, try Canyon Blaster. (I'm only half kidding, lol).

 

Diamond Elite does not guarantee preferred parking. Just says it's subject to availability and you must make a reservation no later than midnight the night before. Mid-day Friday was after the deadline. I am sure SFMM has some sort of ratio for spots available vs. spots they are going to sell (or use the reservations to calculate how many they can sell after taking reservations out of inventory), so if all the reserved spots were taken up by people who DID reserve in time (but may not have arrived yet), all that is left if the spots for sale.

 

The only thing you can arguably fault Six Flags for is that "midnight the night before" could be taken as up until midnight the day of visit, not midnight the start of the day before you want to visit. I read it has midnight the day before you want to visit, not midnight leading into the day of your visit.

 

So good for SFMM for taking care of him.

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^I agree and I think SFMMFan's criticism was completely valid therefore. I'll defend parks on a lot of things but Six Flags is notoriously bad at minimizing mistakes with new policies/programs when it comes to execution. They definitely need to work out this system across the board (with memberships) despite how happy I am with the concept in general.

 

Also, if you think Speedy is good, try Canyon Blaster. (I'm only half kidding, lol).

 

Diamond Elite does not guarantee preferred parking. Just says it's subject to availability and you must make a reservation no later than midnight the night before. Mid-day Friday was after the deadline. I am sure SFMM has some sort of ratio for spots available vs. spots they are going to sell (or use the reservations to calculate how many they can sell after taking reservations out of inventory), so if all the reserved spots were taken up by people who DID reserve in time (but may not have arrived yet), all that is left if the spots for sale.

 

The only thing you can arguably fault Six Flags for is that "midnight the night before" could be taken as up until midnight the day of visit, not midnight the start of the day before you want to visit. I read it has midnight the day before you want to visit, not midnight leading into the day of your visit.

 

So good for SFMM for taking care of him.

Then I clearly misinterpreted it. My apologies. Agreed nonetheless: good on SFMM for responding in the way they did.

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^I would say the problem is that it is not clearly worded. They should go away from “midnight the night before” unless they actually mean you have until it turns 12:00am of the day of your visit. If they mean midnight of the day before, it should say “must be reserved no later than midnight of the day prior to your visit” and provide an example so people understand.

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Went to the park last Wednesday for the first time in almost 15 years, only repeat rides I did from that trip were X2 and Viper. The park has changed quite a bit...

 

The good:

 

-Tatsu was great, best flying coaster by a mile that I've been on. Same goes for Riddler regarding stand up coasters.

-X2 is as great as I remember. I feel like it gets some hate in the community. I get it doesn't have airtime or laterals or whatever people are looking for, but it's some good old messed up fun. One of my favorite coasters anywhere.

-Battle of Metropolis blows away any expectations I had for a Six Flags attraction. First one I've done and I'm glad they are popping up all over.

-Twisted Colossus was my first RMC and I completely understand the hype. By far the most rerideable coaster in the park in terms of not getting boring and not beating you up. As much as I love coasters there aren't many I get back in line for same day, especially a 90 degree day. This was an exception, pure fun especially when the dueling lined up.

-Full Throttle Sports Bar was a nice surprise. Didn't try the food but great spot to grab a beer and watch some games in the AC to get out of the heat.

 

The okay:

 

-Goliath was a letdown. The way it was envisioned in my head from 15 years ago to the way it actually is was disappointing. Just kind of a mediocre ride.

-Not too many issues with ride operations. Really had no problems with regard to the amount of trains on each coaster, they were all operating pretty efficiently except Superman with only one side going. Ninja was closed, Scream may have been closed but we didn't look too far into it...and are Apocaplypse and Green Lantern both STBNO? Last time I was here it was DeJa Vu and Flashback, now these two. Guess it's a Magic Mountain staple to have coasters as decoration.

 

The ugly:

 

-Security and lunch lines were both 45 minutes. These are so frustrating because they're so easily fixable. Would take one night of work to rearrange security so it's not such a clusterf*ck.

 

Overall was a great day, the park seems to be going in a positive direction.

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... and are Apocaplypse and Green Lantern both STBNO?

 

Green Lantern has been SBNO for a few years now and is scheduled to be removed soon.

Apocalypse is currently closed because the area surrounding it is closed off for the construction of West Coast Racers.

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X2 is as great as I remember. I feel like it gets some hate in the community. I get it doesn't have airtime or laterals or whatever people are looking for, but it's some good old messed up fun. One of my favorite coasters anywhere.

It's not the lack of airtime or laterals that cause such derision. The Arrow 4D coasters are known to be brutally violent, and this one's no exception. You can sometimes catch a "merely-rough" ride on it, but more often than not, the jerky seat rotations will realign your spine.

 

are Apocaplypse and Green Lantern both STBNO? Last time I was here it was DeJa Vu and Flashback, now these two. Guess it's a Magic Mountain staple to have coasters as decoration.

No, SFMM is redeveloping the area where Apocalypse stands, putting in a new family-style coaster, and retracking Apocalypse. It's supposed to reopen when that area is complete later in the year. Green Lantern is scheduled for demolition. The park announced a little while back that they were going to get rid of it (it's an absolute garbage ride).

 

Sounds like you had a blast. It's a great park with a fantastic set of rides — enough to appeal to all tastes (Goliath's one of my personal favorites).

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Personally, I found SFGAdv Joker (the one S&S freespin credit to my name) to be bat$hit crazy enough, I can't even imagine what this experience would be like on the scale of X2 or Eejanaika.

 

That having said, I do enjoy Joker a lot, but oh man did its intensity catch me off guard. You really have to brace for it. Its one of the few rides that legitimately frighten me no matter how many times I've ridden it.

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I was at the park today. Got there around 10:30. With the thermometer inching close to 100 degrees, most people were heading to Hurricane Harbor.

 

SFMM was primed for a typical Sunday -- Revolution running one train, Riddler's Revenge running tests for hours but never opening, Ninja closed all day, wind shutting down Drop of Doom, Colossus trains dispatching too slow to race -- everything proceeding as expected.

 

It was probably between 12:00 and 12:30 when I exited Batman and there were huge plumes of smoke billowing from the brush area on the far side of the park entrance. The sky turned orange and there was a lot of ash in the air. From where I was in the back of the park, no one was panicking and most rides continued to operate. Many people just went inside stores and restaurants, planning on waiting out the poor air.

 

It wasn't until between 1:00 and 1:30, after smoke had overtaken most of the park, that rides started shutting down across the back. Rides towards the southern end of the park (Tatsu, Superman, Roaring Rapids) held on for a bit longer. Around 1:30 the park appeared to have decided to call it a day and shut everything down -- all rides, restaurants, shops, etc. No one could leave the park since LA County Fire had shut down Magic Mountain Parkway and the ramps to and from the southbound side of the 5. So they directed everyone away from the fire towards DC Universe and Colossus.

 

By this point, Hurricane Harbor had already been completely cleared and evacuated since the blaze was directly across the street. People were sitting in their cars in the parking lot and the exit road trying to leave, but couldn't go anywhere because of the road closures.

 

I needed to get some water, and whatever the Mooseburger Lodge is called now was the only thing still open, so I stopped in there. At that point, a small congregation of people were camped out in the lovely air conditioning. We waited it out in there for about 45 minutes before we heard LA County Fire had opened Magic Mountain Parkway and we exited the park for the day.

 

While driving out (probably around 2:30) it looked like Superman and Goliath had both reopened with people on the trains. Many people, both SFMM and HH guests, were walking back from the parking lot to try to get back in, seeing that rides were operating. I just wanted to get out of there and away from the ashy air.

 

Overall, SFMM's emergency response protocol seemed disjointed. Employees didn't have any more information than the guests, and the only way information seemed to be spreading was supervisors calling each ride station and instructing them to close and evacuate guests to certain areas. Came home smelling like I had just gone to a beach bonfire. Interesting day to say the least.

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Glad everyone is ok, but that sounds like a literal disaster in the making.

 

You can’t cut off the only egress from a place. If there is that much of a threat of similar incidents, then it sounds like a secondary egress route needs to be paved in.

 

It also sounds like better coordination of emergency planning and management needs to exist between the park and the Fire Department.

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I wasn't there and I'm not defending it (and I'm definitely not defending their lack of communication), but while this is an easy thing to Monday morning quarterback it should be noted that tons and tons of theme parks in America only have one entrance and exit road from the parking lot.

 

Magic Mountain deals with this more than other parks but I don't know what they would really do. Is that weird entrance road ever supposed to be anything other than a dead end? I know there's a ton of construction around the park right now. Do you think the "lack of other infrastructure" problem is in the process of solving itself?

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Does anyone know if you can go to both parks, MM and HH on the SAME day with a membership pass?

I have a gold membership and I was thinking about hitting HH during the hot day, since it closes at 6pm, then walking straight to the MM gate since it doesn't close till 9pm. I can't find any information online.

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Glad everyone is ok, but that sounds like a literal disaster in the making.

 

You can’t cut off the only egress from a place. If there is that much of a threat of similar incidents, then it sounds like a secondary egress route needs to be paved in.

 

It also sounds like better coordination of emergency planning and management needs to exist between the park and the Fire Department.

 

The fire burned along the path of both the main entrance and what would be the alternate route (out the back where employees usually enter).

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Glad everyone is ok, but that sounds like a literal disaster in the making.

 

You can’t cut off the only egress from a place. If there is that much of a threat of similar incidents, then it sounds like a secondary egress route needs to be paved in.

 

It also sounds like better coordination of emergency planning and management needs to exist between the park and the Fire Department.

 

The fire burned along the path of both the main entrance and what would be the alternate route (out the back where employees usually enter).

 

Bad and worse.

 

This is truly where jumping fences becomes an emergency exit.

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Glad everyone is ok, but that sounds like a literal disaster in the making.

 

You can’t cut off the only egress from a place. If there is that much of a threat of similar incidents, then it sounds like a secondary egress route needs to be paved in.

 

It also sounds like better coordination of emergency planning and management needs to exist between the park and the Fire Department.

 

The fire burned along the path of both the main entrance and what would be the alternate route (out the back where employees usually enter).

 

Yep, and they certainly couldn't block the backstage roads with exiting cars in case emergency medical personnel needed to get through.

 

Keep in mind it was only a year or two ago where a fire broke out on I-15 in the Cajon Pass and people were ordered to abandon their cars that later burned on the freeway as the fire came through. The Fire Dept has every right to block vehicle access whereever they need to as long as people have a safe evacuation route. That was provided in a couple of different places. Jumping fences was never necessary.

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The bad part is, the fire department was saying to shelter in place inside the park, and employees were telling everyone to leave. I was stuck in my car for an hour in the parking lot with no water, no bathroom, and a palm tree burning 50 feet away from me.

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