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Can anyone confirm if Revolution is open or not? Testing is great news, but the website still lists it as closed. I just moved to Palm Springs back in January and got a season pass, but it’s been down the only time I’ve used it so far, and have yet to ride OSTR-free!

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I work at the park and Revolution is open today. It might only be one train I’m not sure, but it’s open. Also Apocalypse is still open but it will be closed by next weekend.
Keeping it open through the 4th?
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I work at the park and Revolution is open today. It might only be one train I’m not sure, but it’s open. Also Apocalypse is still open but it will be closed by next weekend.
Keeping it open through the 4th?

 

Yes, I’m hearing it will go down the 5th or 6th.

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After seeing that map, things got much more exciting for me. This is definitely a new major coaster, and if it turns out to be a DC-Rivals style Mack Hyper like rumored, count me in!

 

2018 was an amazing year for coasters but 2019 isn't looking too shabby either. The "all but confirmed" ones are SFMM, Carowinds, and Kennywood along with the Nick Universe park in NJ, whatever is going in at Dollywood, and a few others I'm probably missing. Exciting times.

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^ I have a feeling 2020 is going to be a good coaster year as well

 

 

I have a feeling this area of the park is gonna become Adrenaline Alley as Six Flags trademarked the name a few months ago.

Lol, I can't decide if "Adrenaline Alley" is why-didn't-anyone-think-of-this-before great, or typical-Six-Flags cringeworthy.

 

 

I'm leaning toward cringeworthy lol

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Cyclone Bay seems to be now officially closed for their new 2019 project. I have a feeling this area of the park is gonna become Adrenaline Alley as Six Flags trademarked the name a few months ago. Photo is from Oh Whoops on Instagram

 

For it to be a new map, why does it look so old and worn out? Why are there no maps announcements anywhere else?

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I don't want to be that close to someone else's germs unless they're family.

 

Uhhhhh...

 

Also Apocalypse is still open but it will be closed by next weekend.

 

Oh yay! They open it for a week just to close it again! Honestly I wouldn't have a problem if they tore that thing down. This park has no business maintaining a wooden coaster, and they can't seem to keep it open consistently. Really not THAT great of a ride either.

 

For it to be a new map, why does it look so old and worn out? Why are there no maps announcements anywhere else?

 

You ever walked around a park with a map in your pocket all day? Those things get beat up! Especially if you get on a water ride!

 

Get ready for an improvement in that corner of the park, featuring: Less trees and MORE concrete!

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^You know, come to think of it, I really wouldn’t mind if they ripped out Apocalypse either. Not saying they will or they should, but it is poorly maintained and quite ugly despite providing a “slightly above average” ride when it doesn’t beat you up. It wouldn’t be much of a loss, in my opinion.

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^^ SFMM could take the opportunity to become the first park with two RMC I-Box conversions! Then they would definitely have two of the best coasters on the planet lol! Undeniably a better use of Apocalypse, and I haven't even ridden it lol!

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For it to be a new map, why does it look so old and worn out? Why are there no maps announcements anywhere else?

 

You ever walked around a park with a map in your pocket all day? Those things get beat up! Especially if you get on a water ride!

 

I understand that. Guess I'm saying if you're gonna post about a development like this, get a new map! LOL

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^^Yeah, I don't think Apocalypse is really that bad, either. Is it a bit rough? Sure, but I've been on much worse, and it does have a great layout and speed that still hold up. And night rides on it are pretty great. I think it's worth keeping around.

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^^ SFMM could take the opportunity to become the first park with two RMC I-Box conversions! Then they would definitely have two of the best coasters on the planet lol! Undeniably a better use of Apocalypse, and I haven't even ridden it lol!

I really hope they hire GCI to do the same treatment they did on Ghostrider to Apocalypse. Retrack the whole thing a theme it to a junkyard/Car shop were the trains are now themed to cars and the story is you are taking the cars out for a test ride and it gets wild. Also Six Flags has now trademarked West Coaster Racer and Maxx Force.

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There is nothing wrong with Apocalypse that some track work and TLC (ala Ghostrider) wouldn't fix. People are always so quick to tear down coasters. Imagine if Knotts had just torn down Ghostrider when it was at it's worse for nearly a decade. We wouldn't have the great ride we have today.

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There is nothing wrong with Apocalypse that some track work and TLC (ala Ghostrider) wouldn't fix. People are always so quick to tear down coasters. Imagine if Knotts had just torn down Ghostrider when it was at it's worse for nearly a decade. We wouldn't have the great ride we have today.

 

As an outsider from the UK that rode Apocalypse last month for the first time, I thought it was fantastic. Smooth, fast, fun. One of the best modern woodies i've been on for sure.

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The problem with wooden coasters in environments like so cal is that they ALWAYS need TLC. Knott's still struggles with GhostRider thanks to its sheer size (still much better than it was, but definitely starting to feel it). Magic has always struggled with their wooden coasters to the point Psyclone and original Colossus first drops became I-beam track.

 

Turn them all into RMC conversions or Intamin laminated wood rides I say!

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Adrenaline Alley and West Coaster Racer, I’d say there’s a connection there. I can’t imagine them doing another dueling coaster just off the heels of TC. I have no clue the direction they might go on this one.

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Adrenaline Alley and West Coaster Racer, I’d say there’s a connection there. I can’t imagine them doing another dueling coaster just off the heels of TC. I have no clue the direction they might go on this one.

 

My guess is it may simply have a race "theme" rather than literally be a racing/dueling coaster like TC.

 

I actually like the name "Adrenaline Alley" for the area. Not as enthusiastic about West Coaster Racer, but if it turns out to be a huge kicka$$ coaster of some sort, I won't care what they name it really.

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Adrenaline Alley and West Coaster Racer, I’d say there’s a connection there. I can’t imagine them doing another dueling coaster just off the heels of TC. I have no clue the direction they might go on this one.

 

My guess is it may simply have a race "theme" rather than literally be a racing/dueling coaster like TC.

 

I actually like the name "Adrenaline Alley" for the area. Not as enthusiastic about West Coaster Racer, but if it turns out to be a huge kicka$$ coaster of some sort, I won't care what they name it really.

This whole area should have a Fast and Furious style theme.

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^^ SFMM could take the opportunity to become the first park with two RMC I-Box conversions! Then they would definitely have two of the best coasters on the planet lol! Undeniably a better use of Apocalypse, and I haven't even ridden it lol!

I really hope they hire GCI to do the same treatment they did on Ghostrider to Apocalypse. Retrack the whole thing a theme it to a junkyard/Car shop were the trains are now themed to cars and the story is you are taking the cars out for a test ride and it gets wild. Also Six Flags has now trademarked West Coaster Racer and Maxx Force.

 

I'm agreeing with the second comment. Let GCI work on it like they did Ghostie at Knotts. Apocalypse used to be a great ride. I was in my top 10 wood. I could easily marathon it, especially at night. That was great!

Right now, the first half is good. After you come out of that last tunnel - it's brutal. I've always said it must be the sun. Inside the first tunnel turn, it's as "smoooth as a baby's butt." That part of the track is never exposed to the sun. I think this ride could easily be restored to it's former glory...

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I wish they would. It really has a lot in common with Ghost Rider. Both are great layouts that would be much more fun without being so rough, and both are beat down by the Southern California sun at a year round park.

 

I think Gold Striker up at CGA is going to need the same treatment pretty soon too, I just rode it the other day and it's starting to approach Apocalypse level roughness, and that thing was so smooth and fun when it opened. I actually did CGA and SCBB in the same day and Gold Striker at CGA was my last ride of that park, and then when I got to SCBB my first ride was Giant Dipper, and the 1924 coaster was much smoother than the 2014 coaster.

 

Neither was as rough as current Apocalypse or pre-rehab Ghost Rider though.

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^^ SFMM could take the opportunity to become the first park with two RMC I-Box conversions!

 

I would be so down with this. And to add to what Jew said, Magic Mountain simply does not have the resources to maintain a wooden ride like this with all the other coasters in it's arsenal. Knott's is a different story, they have way less coasters, and Ghostrider is an icon. An El Toro style plug and play retrack or RMC conversion like Joker at SFDK would be sweet. The ride has a TON of potential, it's just not lived up to it past it's first couple years, and it HAS to be a headache for the park to maintain.

 

There is nothing wrong with Apocalypse that some track work and TLC (ala Ghostrider) wouldn't fix.

 

They JUST paid some 3rd party wooden coaster restoration company a bunch of money to do extensive track work and give it TLC, and shortly after running for a couple months, the ride has basically been stagnant anyway.

 

For whatever reason to me, the ride has always felt out of place. It does have some cool elements, but even when I rode it for the first time I didn't really get what they were going for. Yeah it was sponsored temporarily by a movie, and it had a soundtrack shortly removed after, not to mention no last row. The whole thing was some presentation that us enthusiasts who know the park knew would never last. So now it's just kind of...there.

 

People are always so quick to tear down coasters. Imagine if Knotts had just torn down Ghostrider when it was at it's worse for nearly a decade. We wouldn't have the great ride we have today.

 

I'm not quick to tear down coasters at all, but Ghostrider is in a whole 'nother ballpark. That ride had been great for almost 2 decades before it had to be gutted and redone. It's an icon of the park. It's a GREAT coaster. Terminator/Apocalypse not so much. I'm not sure many guests would even know if the ride was gone.

 

That whole corner of the park needs a lot of work, and while I'm not really a big fan of how Six Flags "re-does" its areas, it is nice to know they're atleast going to give it a shot. I'm praying for a Mack or Intamin. A Time Traveler type ride would be OK, but at this point I'm not sure it'd bring me back to the park, and I'm not sure it fits with what the park needs.

 

Man, I miss Deja Vu!

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