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^ I actually had a question somewhat related to that. Is there anything actually wrong/different about Green Lantern that makes it behave so much worse than its European cousins? Or is it only the crappy way it's run (and modifications due to being in California) that makes it so bad?

 

I've never been on it (or ridden a ZacSpin), but am curious if it's entirely the state and the park screwing the ride up.

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I can't speak for the European versions, but being at a weird angle (or worse, upside down) when going through those transitions is not fun. It feels like a car crash with intense pressure on your head, like your soul is being ripped from your body. The S&S versions are slightly milder, but not by much. I think it's just the nature of the ride, and I'm not a fan of either brand.

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Sometimes the ridiculous California laws can cause delays, and construction projects to become a major pain in the a$$ in general. Believe it or not, a lot of companies just straight-up avoid the state entirely because of it.

 

SeaWorld, which has extra requirements from being on the coast is opening their new ride two days earlier than originally announced. A good project manager will know all the regulations and work with them accordingly.

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^ I actually had a question somewhat related to that. Is there anything actually wrong/different about Green Lantern that makes it behave so much worse than its European cousins? Or is it only the crappy way it's run (and modifications due to being in California) that makes it so bad?

 

I've never been on it (or ridden a ZacSpin), but am curious if it's entirely the state and the park screwing the ride up.

 

i think the fact that there are what, 4, in the whole world says a lot of how great a coaster it is. and also that there is a design for an updated version with seating like the free flys out there.

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I'm curious does anyone know why Ninja constantly operates two trains on slow weekdays, where all the other coasters except TC and sometimes X2 operate with just one?

 

Because you don't earn yourself a black belt by being lazy and doing the bare minimum. Being the black belt of coasters is hard work that requires constant focus, hard work, discipline, maximum efficiency and effort at all times.

 

It is a cause, a cross to bear, a responsibility, and an obligation. The black belt of coasters title is a banner that advertises that the wearer is committed to serving the needs of others.

 

One day you'll understand, grasshopper...

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I feel like Green Lantern will end up at SFA eventually

Let's hope so. I'd rather have KBF's old Boomerang, TBH.

 

I was at the park last week, and they were again working on GL on several days. Lots of grinding on the track from a high lift. Not sure what they're up to. I really don't care much since it's one of the few rides at the park I won't ride. I rode it twice when it was new. Once facing forward and once backwards. I didn't enjoy either, hence the name I call it - "The Grunt Lantern."

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I'm curious does anyone know why Ninja constantly operates two trains on slow weekdays, where all the other coasters except TC and sometimes X2 operate with just one?

 

Because you don't earn yourself a black belt by being lazy and doing the bare minimum. Being the black belt of coasters is hard work that requires constant focus, hard work, discipline, maximum efficiency and effort at all times.

 

It is a cause, a cross to bear, a responsibility, and an obligation. The black belt of coasters title is a banner that advertises that the wearer is committed to serving the needs of others.

 

One day you'll understand, grasshopper...

 

 

This reminds me of an old VHS tape that we got from Magic Mountain around 1990 that I used to watch all the time as a kid.

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I'm curious does anyone know why Ninja constantly operates two trains on slow weekdays, where all the other coasters except TC and sometimes X2 operate with just one?

 

Granted, I've only been there once on a slow weekday, but usually during the off season, I'd still notice that mostly Viper, Revolution, Ninja, and Goldrusher would still run two trains (TC often 3), and often so would Batman, Apocalypse, Riddler, Goliath, X2, Scream, FT, and Tatsu (though not always). That's actually a decent chunk of their major coasters.

 

I can imagine on these slow off season weekdays, many would drop to one train... but if the station/train isn't anywhere near full, why should they continuously cycle 2 empty trains? For once, I wouldn't blame them.

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I feel like Green Lantern will end up at SFA eventually

Let's hope so. I'd rather have KBF's old Boomerang, TBH.

 

Why would you wish that pain upon me. That need to sent that turd to SFSTL so they can get their long awaited Intamin Steel Coaster.

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The S&S Free Spins are definitely much better rides than the Intamin ZacSpins. I'm guessing that's why so many parks are getting the S&S models.

 

This style of ride is still just an "okay" ride concept. Neither version is going to crack many people's favorites list.

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The S&S Free Spins are definitely much better rides than the Intamin ZacSpins. I'm guessing that's why so many parks are getting the S&S models.

 

This style of ride is still just an "okay" ride concept. Neither version is going to crack many people's favorites list.

 

Actually, while I can't speak from personal experience, I've heard from multiple sources that Insane at Gronu Lund (a clone of Green Lantern) is quite a fun ride, and a massive improvement over Green lantern (despite Insane coming first and GL being a clone of Insane). Apparently whatever Grona Lund does when running Insane is much better than what SFMM's been doing to GL. It even breaks incrediblecoaster's (username "XII" on TPR) top ten steel list http://www.incrediblecoasters.com/Top10SteelCoasters.html.

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The S&S Free Spins are definitely much better rides than the Intamin ZacSpins. I'm guessing that's why so many parks are getting the S&S models.

 

This style of ride is still just an "okay" ride concept. Neither version is going to crack many people's favorites list.

 

Actually, while I can't speak from personal experience, I've heard from multiple sources that Insane at Gronu Lund (a clone of Green Lantern) is quite a fun ride, and a massive improvement over Green lantern (despite Insane coming first and GL being a clone of Insane). Apparently whatever Grona Lund does when running Insane is much better than what SFMM's been doing to GL. It even breaks incrediblecoaster's (username "XII" on TPR) top ten steel list http://www.incrediblecoasters.com/Top10SteelCoasters.html.

 

I was speaking more about the S&S versions (since there are more of them). How many people rank those rides highly? Sure they are fun, but beyond that they are barely talked about...by anyone. I know that people love Insane, but unfortunately it seems that ride will remain sort of an anomaly, as the one here sucks, and no one is iching to build another one. So the S&S versions are far more relevant.

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Most of the time coasters don’t have to be cracking people’s top 10, nor they are trying to do so. While I’m one of the 3 people in the world that prefer Intamin ZacSpin over the S&S model, I do like how on the S&S you can adjust your own flip. When the GP figure that out, the ride would have a high re-ride value. I can see more GP re-riding an S&S Free Spin than say El Toro or Sky Rush. Plus these rides are super cheap and requires less maintenance.

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While I’m one of the 3 people in the world that prefer Intamin ZacSpin over the S&S model

 

That makes two of us. Who is the third one?

 

That would be me! I've ridden this ride twice 4 years apart and had an amazing ride each time, not sure why there is so much hate.

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I actually don't mind the ride either. I liken it to an open air Zipper, which, since I can never find anyone to ride one with me, is the closest I get to on.

 

That said, I do understand all the hate as well. It's a pretty brutal ride, or at least can be.

 

FWIW, I also was one of the 3 people that loved Flashback. I know most people said it banged the heck out of them, but that was never my personal experience. Maybe it was a circumstance of my body proportions/height, or I knew how to "ride" it and brace for the turns, but I never had the headbanging seemingly everyone else on the planet did.

 

In any case, I'd imagine the reason they'd want it back up and running would be to maintain a high coaster count, in the event a *future* coaster would bring up their working coaster count to 20. Most people would gladly cry "foul" if they announced a new coaster as their 20th if that were SBNO.

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So how has attendance been so far this year in general (now that MM is 365 days a year)?

 

And I will very likely go . . . probably the second week of September (I know it can get real hot in Valencia during the summer).

 

What is the recommended path of attack as far as riding the coasters go?

 

Is Flash Pass worth it? (I know for Platinum FP, you get ONE use of it on X2, Twisted Colossus and Full Throttle).

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So how has attendance been so far this year in general (now that MM is 365 days a year)?

 

And I will very likely go . . . probably the second week of September (I know it can get real hot in Valencia during the summer).

 

What is the recommended path of attack as far as riding the coasters go?

 

Is Flash Pass worth it? (I know for Platinum FP, you get ONE use of it on X2, Twisted Colossus and YOLOcoaster).

 

if you go the week after labor day, and during the week, you won't need a plan. it should be a ghost town. or, wait until west coast bash dates are announced, and go then. wcb day will probably be busy, but there's more fun with other stuff we get to do. then, if you want to go to the park after the weekend, it should be dead.

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So how has attendance been so far this year in general (now that MM is 365 days a year)?

 

And I will very likely go . . . probably the second week of September (I know it can get real hot in Valencia during the summer).

 

What is the recommended path of attack as far as riding the coasters go?

 

Is Flash Pass worth it? (I know for Platinum FP, you get ONE use of it on X2, Twisted Colossus and YOLOcoaster).

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Wcb is usually the weekend after labor day and is always an awesome time. If you can make it then, I recommend that. It is usually really hot though I think it was 108 or so last time.

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