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Man, I'm super jealous. Awesome addition. When I visited this park five years ago it was a dump. However, there seem to have been many improvements and refurbishments since them. I'm anxious to give the park another try in a few years.

Yeah. I've been super proud of Six Flags lately, not just Magic Mountain, but the whole chain. At a lot of their parks they've really been updating old areas that didn't get a lot of foot traffic and they've made them great again (Jim Reid Anderson for CEO 2018). Like at Six Flags Great Adventure they added the Justice League dark ride to the Old Country area and now they are adding Cyborg Cyber Spin to that area and its given people a reason to go to that section of the park. Six Flags Magic Mountain updated the Scream Punk area, did updates to the Revolution, they added a dark ride to Gotham and repainted Riddler, now they are adding the Boardwalk section. And this one doesn't get a whole lot of attention but Six Flags St. Louis has been updating the Chouteau's Market area of the park by removing Hannibarrels and replacing it with Tsunami Soaker, then this year they added in Spinsanity and repainted the Chevy show building. And then Six Flags Over Texas updated their Gotham section by adding in some awesome flat rides, a coaster, and now an awesome new and unique flat ride.

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Hi everyone. Can you please tell me which rides currently offer single rider?

I would love to, as that is my favorite subject! I'll go in order of benefit from greatest to least:

Riddler's Revenge - Walk up the exit and head towards the flash pass entrance but before you get there, right before you turn the corner to see the lockers, on your right is a nondescript door with a dark stairway. It leads up to the front of the loading platform. Just wave to let an operator know you're there and most of the time you get on the current train, occasionally in rare cases you may wait one more train. No matter how long the standby line is it's virtually always a walk-on.

 

Green Lantern - Walk up the exit and look for the single rider sign that leads right up to the main dispatching ride operator. Please be respectful and don't yell at or startle the operator since you will be right behind him, but let them know you are there and they will load you the next chance they get. I usually wait 5-10 minutes. You actually tend to wait less on busier days because on busier days there are more large groups of 3 or 5 that don't evenly load into the cars. On slow days when it's lots of singles and pairs, there's less empty seats.

 

Lex Luthor - When the ride is busy (and actually only when it's busy - otherwise they don't use the single rider line) you walk up towards the exit and there is a very small que to wait at on the left..it's hard to describe exactly where it is, so you might have to ask an employee if you aren't sure. Kinda like Green Lantern, wait times can be 5-15 min or more because of the large number of seats on the gondolas there aren't as many empty seats, but the good news is that when you do load via the single rider line you're almost always on the outside seat.

 

Revolution - No longer has a proper single rider line, but occasionally they will solicit single riders from the front of the line, especially if you aren't using VR.

 

Viper - Reportedly there's a single rider line if you walk up the exit, but since there's never a standby line for Viper, I have no idea why it exists and have never had the need to use it.

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Viper - Reportedly there's a single rider line if you walk up the exit, but since there's never a standby line for Viper, I have no idea why it exists and have never had the need to use it.

 

When I got to the park in July (first time since 1999) I went to Viper first. Station wait with a few peeps on the stairs, no biggie. After the line wasn't budging I found out they were only loading one train as the 2nd had a protein spill. (Where is the 3rd train, btw?) Anyway... every time the protein train would come in, they would look at for a bit and hover around the car that had the spill. They would sometimes spray some Fabuloso in it (or was it all the AXE products I detected around me?), slam the harnesses down and run it through again. After doing this several times, they finally loaded that train. What really caught me was the hovering over the protein seat between runs. They would stand around and stare at it, as if it were something they had never seen before and were absolutely clueless as to what to do about it. And the amount of time this took them, as the operational train would always be stacked. And the number of times they went through this routine. Have a six flags day.

 

Had I known there was a properly functioning single rider line, I would have used it. But that would have been a huge gamble and potential waste of time and walking. It's funny (frustrating) that many six flags parks have the same... how shall we say - quirks.

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Where's a cool place to hang out in the park? If you had to spend a day at MM and you could not ride any rides, how would you spend your day?

The Sky Tower when it's open, The FT Sports Bar, Kwerk Theatre, Food Etc. are all good places to cool off. The Dole Whips at Food Etc. are surprisingly good compared with the rest of the food at MM.

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Where's a cool place to hang out in the park? If you had to spend a day at MM and you could not ride any rides, how would you spend your day?

It's kind of the wrong park for anything non-ride related. I mean, there are others things to do there, but unless you're going to ride the big rides, there's not that much going on. Whereas places like Knotts maintain a good balance for all ages and abilities, SFMM is about 80% extreme rides and doesn't really cater that well to non-extreme stuff. I mean, there's Justice League, and (as opposed to a couple of previous comments), the place is very clean and quite scenic, but getting around is kind of a slog. The restaurants are probably the best option to sit down and cool off, and there are plenty of covered areas in and around the actual mountain itself with plenty of foliage (by Tatsu, Goliath, Swashbuckler, Batman, Goldrusher, Ninja etc.) I think there's some musical theatre-type stuff that happens throughout the day (by Twisted Colossus, Golden Bear Theatre etc.), but you have to have the stomach for musical theatre.

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The park was never a dump

 

I agree... I've only been there twice, to be fair, but neither time did I come away feeling this way about the park! It's not as aesthetically pretty as some Six Flags parks, or CF parks, but has some pretty unique charmin parts of the park, I thought.

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The park was never a dump

Well then let me rephrase and say in OUR opinion we thought it was a dump, and we will always remember is as looking like a dump in 2012.

That's just ridiculous. I mean if you're comparing it to DLR or something, then your expectations for a Six Flags park are out of whack. The only time the park could really could be considered a dump would be maybe in the 90s due to the quality of guest in the park during those years, but certainly not in 2012.

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The park was never a dump

Well then let me rephrase and say in OUR opinion we thought it was a dump, and we will always remember is as looking like a dump in 2012.

That's just ridiculous. I mean if you're comparing it to DLR or something, then your expectations for a Six Flags park are out of whack. The only time the park could really could be considered a dump would be maybe in the 90s due to the quality of guest in the park during those years, but certainly not in 2012.

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The park was never a dump

Well then let me rephrase and say in OUR opinion we thought it was a dump, and we will always remember is as looking like a dump in 2012.

That's just ridiculous. I mean if you're comparing it to DLR or something, then your expectations for a Six Flags park are out of whack. The only time the park could really could be considered a dump would be maybe in the 90s due to the quality of guest in the park during those years, but certainly not in 2012.

 

 

this is what i do. i keep my expectations low.

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Where's a cool place to hang out in the park? If you had to spend a day at MM and you could not ride any rides, how would you spend your day?

The Sky Tower when it's open, The FT Sports Bar, Kwerk Theatre, Food Etc. are all good places to cool off. The Dole Whips at Food Etc. are surprisingly good compared with the rest of the food at MM.

 

The Sky Tower hasn't been open for years, and unless things have changed, isn't likely to open again in the near future. I've pretty much written it off.

 

I do agree their Dole Whips are a big "secret". It's the same as Disney, without the insane wait.

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The park was never a dump

 

I agree... I've only been there twice, to be fair, but neither time did I come away feeling this way about the park! It's not as aesthetically pretty as some Six Flags parks, or CF parks, but has some pretty unique charmin parts of the park, I thought.

 

Apparently, the toilet paper there was pretty unique, according to my report from earlier... (Methinks working nights and then staying up all day on Friday is getting the better of me! )

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The park was never a dump

Well then let me rephrase and say in OUR opinion we thought it was a dump, and we will always remember is as looking like a dump in 2012.

That's just ridiculous. I mean if you're comparing it to DLR or something, then your expectations for a Six Flags park are out of whack. The only time the park could really could be considered a dump would be maybe in the 90s due to the quality of guest in the park during those years, but certainly not in 2012.

 

 

Prozach is not reaching with his opinion here. And trust me, he would not compare it to a Disney park. If you took the time to read through his posts you would know that Disney parks are not his cup of tea. Yes, SFMM is definitely moving in the right direction. But it was far from being a nice park for a very long time. So, enjoy your rose colored glasses. Prozach is dead on in his analysis.

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It's almost like people have different opinions!

 

The park has had it's ups and downs over the years, but I never felt it was a "dump" - but, gasp, that's my opinion. Things like the Metro station, and (sadly) now the tower, being SBNO for a long time has always been puzzling to me. Hell, Flashback sat there for quite awhile, too.

 

I guess when I look at the admission/pass price, I just have a different bar set. The park was nicely plotted on the hill, and that along makes for a unique experience ... even with dilapidated areas and bathroom issues. I've been in parks (that I've never seen labeled "dumps") where similar conditions exist.

 

Exciting email from the park president, btw. It does sound like they're pointing in the right direction with the refurb/addition, hopeful they can keep it going!

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There is a new beergarden now too where one can rest across from Goldrusher. Personally, I always felt the park was clean and nice looking and it certainly improved over the years. I think some people just complain because they think it is cool to do so. I had a bad time at CP as they close all rides when a drop of rain is falling, but you do not see me complaining about it for years to come like some people here.

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People know it costs a park a bunch of money to install new rides and structures. People forget it also costs a decent amount of money to remove them. By incorporating the cost of removing a structure in with the cost of building a new project, the demolition can bring some return on the investment.

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The park was never a dump

Well then let me rephrase and say in OUR opinion we thought it was a dump, and we will always remember is as looking like a dump in 2012.

That's just ridiculous. I mean if you're comparing it to DLR or something, then your expectations for a Six Flags park are out of whack. The only time the park could really could be considered a dump would be maybe in the 90s due to the quality of guest in the park during those years, but certainly not in 2012.

I have very realistic expectations, thank you very much. We went for one day. There was trash everywhere, multiple rides weren't running, multiple areas were just run down and seemed abandoned, we encountered some of the most rude staff members we've ever encountered, we saw crowds of unruly teens, and we probably had one of the worst days at an amusement park we've ever had. Hence my very own personal non ridiculous opinion that the place was a dump. Despite being optimistic and stoked to be at the park, it lived up to many of the complaints I had heard at the time. You can disagree all you want, but there's no reason to mock my opinion based on the experience of two very down to earth people. We both left early and had no desire to go back anytime soon. I knew from talking to other enthusiasts at the time that my opinion of the park was not unique.

 

As I said before, the park seems to have made many positive changes over the past few years by refurbishing rides and areas. This leads me to believe that they obviously recognized that several areas of the park in fact needed these updates. I'm very glad that SFMM has jumped on board with other Six Flags parks to improve the overall guest experience. I like where the Six Flags chain as a whole is headed. Even despite my very terrible experience, where I developed my very own opinion of the park, the recent updates make me want to eventually give SFMM another try. If the park has always been viewed as perfect in your eyes, then so be it. I'm entitled to my difference of opinion and that should not offend you. There was no intent to offend anyone. Had I known people were going to be so touchy I would have never made the harmless comment, regardless of the fact that it was meant to be positive toward the park.

 

It's almost like people have different opinions!

Indeed.

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