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They are pausing Justice League installations because Sally have fulfilled the original seven ride contract. Rumor has it that Six Flags might buy two more, but that's not going to be determined for a little while now.

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Can you compare the ride to Knott's Voyage to the Iron Reef or DCA's Toy Story Midway Mania?

 

The ride is definitely better than Knott's Voyage, and on par with DCA's Toy Story ride.

 

But this type of ride makes more sense for a younger crowd, which works at a Disney park, but seems kind of random at a park like Magic Mountain. I'm not saying people won't ride it once they're at the park, but to think this is going to attract a crowd over 15 years old *to come out and actually visit the park for it* is stretching it a bit.

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Any word so far on what the wait times for it have been like?

 

I've been on the SFStL and SFOT versions, so I'm very curious to compare. But not thrilled with the idea that Single Rider isn't until after 2 pre-show rooms... what's the point of that?

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Thanks for the pics! I am glad SFMM is moving in this direction. If they can position themselves as the home of the DC universe with the right attractions, we can have a Marvel vs. DC fight for all the comic fans.

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Can you compare the ride to Knott's Voyage to the Iron Reef or DCA's Toy Story Midway Mania?

 

The ride is definitely better than Knott's Voyage, and on par with DCA's Toy Story ride.

 

But this type of ride makes more sense for a younger crowd, which works at a Disney park, but seems kind of random at a park like Magic Mountain. I'm not saying people won't ride it once they're at the park, but to think this is going to attract a crowd over 15 years old *to come out and actually visit the park for it* is stretching it a bit.

 

And guess who spends the most money at parks? Families....

 

Magic Mountain will make more money off the 15 year kid whose whole family tags along than they will a teenager who shows up and doesn't spend a penny besides their initial pass purchase (or monthly payment)...

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Can you compare the ride to Knott's Voyage to the Iron Reef or DCA's Toy Story Midway Mania?

 

The ride is definitely better than Knott's Voyage, and on par with DCA's Toy Story ride.

 

But this type of ride makes more sense for a younger crowd, which works at a Disney park, but seems kind of random at a park like Magic Mountain. I'm not saying people won't ride it once they're at the park, but to think this is going to attract a crowd over 15 years old *to come out and actually visit the park for it* is stretching it a bit.

 

And guess who spends the most money at parks? Families....

 

Magic Mountain will make more money off the 15 year kid whose whole family tags along than they will a teenager who shows up and doesn't spend a penny besides their initial pass purchase (or monthly payment)...

 

 

Except SFMM has neglected family stuff for over a decade. That's how SF Corporate thinks about all the parks except MM and Gadv. Both neglect family rides in general and have not gotten family friendly flats. I believe the last flats for both were 450 and 400 ft drop towers. not family friendly at all

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I will be in San Diego next week with a friend and we are considering coming up to MM for a day. I have a season pass from GAdv. What is our best option for purchasing one ticket for my friend? Are there any discounts for pass holders from other parks? Thanks!

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Can you compare the ride to Knott's Voyage to the Iron Reef or DCA's Toy Story Midway Mania?

 

The ride is definitely better than Knott's Voyage, and on par with DCA's Toy Story ride.

 

But this type of ride makes more sense for a younger crowd, which works at a Disney park, but seems kind of random at a park like Magic Mountain. I'm not saying people won't ride it once they're at the park, but to think this is going to attract a crowd over 15 years old *to come out and actually visit the park for it* is stretching it a bit.

 

And guess who spends the most money at parks? Families....

 

Magic Mountain will make more money off the 15 year kid whose whole family tags along than they will a teenager who shows up and doesn't spend a penny besides their initial pass purchase (or monthly payment)...

 

 

Except SFMM has neglected family stuff for over a decade. That's how SF Corporate thinks about all the parks except MM and Gadv. Both neglect family rides in general and have not gotten family friendly flats. I believe the last flats for both were 450 and 400 ft drop towers. not family friendly at all

 

It's never too late to balance out the park. And with Six Flag's limited spending the past few years, that's probably what's about the happen anyway. I'm guessing next year will be another non coaster year as the park adds flats or kids rides instead.

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Can you compare the ride to Knott's Voyage to the Iron Reef or DCA's Toy Story Midway Mania?

 

The ride is definitely better than Knott's Voyage, and on par with DCA's Toy Story ride.

 

But this type of ride makes more sense for a younger crowd, which works at a Disney park, but seems kind of random at a park like Magic Mountain. I'm not saying people won't ride it once they're at the park, but to think this is going to attract a crowd over 15 years old *to come out and actually visit the park for it* is stretching it a bit.

 

And guess who spends the most money at parks? Families....

 

Magic Mountain will make more money off the 15 year kid whose whole family tags along than they will a teenager who shows up and doesn't spend a penny besides their initial pass purchase (or monthly payment)...

 

 

 

Except SFMM has neglected family stuff for over a decade. That's how SF Corporate thinks about all the parks except MM and Gadv. Both neglect family rides in general and have not gotten family friendly flats. I believe the last flats for both were 450 and 400 ft drop towers. not family friendly at all

 

It's never too late to balance out the park. And with Six Flag's limited spending the past few years, that's probably what's about the happen anyway. I'm guessing next year will be another non coaster year as the park adds flats or kids rides instead.

 

Six Flags limited spending is not a few years, it's been since bankruptcy. It's all based on a formula since bankruptcy. It's here to stay and their EBIDTA is great. There is no way they are changing and said so in their investor presentation. People just didn't notice the limited spending b/c 2011-2016 b/c they were adding RMC's, Full Throttle, Xflight. Now that it's 4D's and superloops everywhere people seem to notice and think this is pull back. They are actually spending slightly more money each year since bankruptcy they are just spending on cloned garbage to a large extent.

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Can you compare the ride to Knott's Voyage to the Iron Reef or DCA's Toy Story Midway Mania?

 

The ride is definitely better than Knott's Voyage, and on par with DCA's Toy Story ride.

 

But this type of ride makes more sense for a younger crowd, which works at a Disney park, but seems kind of random at a park like Magic Mountain. I'm not saying people won't ride it once they're at the park, but to think this is going to attract a crowd over 15 years old *to come out and actually visit the park for it* is stretching it a bit.

 

And guess who spends the most money at parks? Families....

 

Magic Mountain will make more money off the 15 year kid whose whole family tags along than they will a teenager who shows up and doesn't spend a penny besides their initial pass purchase (or monthly payment)...

 

 

 

Except SFMM has neglected family stuff for over a decade. That's how SF Corporate thinks about all the parks except MM and Gadv. Both neglect family rides in general and have not gotten family friendly flats. I believe the last flats for both were 450 and 400 ft drop towers. not family friendly at all

 

It's never too late to balance out the park. And with Six Flag's limited spending the past few years, that's probably what's about the happen anyway. I'm guessing next year will be another non coaster year as the park adds flats or kids rides instead.

 

Six Flags limited spending is not a few years, it's been since bankruptcy. It's all based on a formula since bankruptcy. It's here to stay and their EBIDTA is great. There is no way they are changing and said so in their investor presentation. People just didn't notice the limited spending b/c 2011-2016 b/c they were adding RMC's, YOLOcoaster, Xflight. Now that it's 4D's and superloops everywhere people seem to notice and think this is pull back. They are actually spending slightly more money each year since bankruptcy they are just spending on cloned garbage to a large extent.

 

Oh no, we've noticed, trust me. It's still a far cry from that Thomas Town, Wiggles nonsense from the Shapiro years. The limited spending now is yielding things their parks have needed since forever. Dark rides, family rides, waterpark additions, flat rides., breathing new life into old, beat up coasters.

 

This is a GOOD thing. Well.. except for enthusiasts that miss 25 million dollar mediocre B&Ms every other year.

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Can you compare the ride to Knott's Voyage to the Iron Reef or DCA's Toy Story Midway Mania?

 

The ride is definitely better than Knott's Voyage, and on par with DCA's Toy Story ride.

 

But this type of ride makes more sense for a younger crowd, which works at a Disney park, but seems kind of random at a park like Magic Mountain. I'm not saying people won't ride it once they're at the park, but to think this is going to attract a crowd over 15 years old *to come out and actually visit the park for it* is stretching it a bit.

 

And guess who spends the most money at parks? Families....

 

Magic Mountain will make more money off the 15 year kid whose whole family tags along than they will a teenager who shows up and doesn't spend a penny besides their initial pass purchase (or monthly payment)...

 

 

 

Except SFMM has neglected family stuff for over a decade. That's how SF Corporate thinks about all the parks except MM and Gadv. Both neglect family rides in general and have not gotten family friendly flats. I believe the last flats for both were 450 and 400 ft drop towers. not family friendly at all

 

It's never too late to balance out the park. And with Six Flag's limited spending the past few years, that's probably what's about the happen anyway. I'm guessing next year will be another non coaster year as the park adds flats or kids rides instead.

 

Six Flags limited spending is not a few years, it's been since bankruptcy. It's all based on a formula since bankruptcy. It's here to stay and their EBIDTA is great. There is no way they are changing and said so in their investor presentation. People just didn't notice the limited spending b/c 2011-2016 b/c they were adding RMC's, YOLOcoaster, Xflight. Now that it's 4D's and superloops everywhere people seem to notice and think this is pull back. They are actually spending slightly more money each year since bankruptcy they are just spending on cloned garbage to a large extent.

 

Oh no, we've noticed, trust me. It's still a far cry from that Thomas Town, Wiggles nonsense from the Shapiro years. The limited spending now is yielding things their parks have needed since forever. Dark rides, family rides, waterpark additions, flat rides., breathing new life into old, beat up coasters.

 

This is a GOOD thing. Well.. except for enthusiasts that miss 25 million dollar mediocre B&Ms every other year.

 

 

The thing is they have a done horrible job. The parks are literally becoming all the same. They have to gimmick rides as their supposed "flagship rides" that are not going to hold up to time. JL's are a video game, people and kids lose interest in video games quickly. I an tell you know 1 year after JL's in some parks the line is nothing, it's a virtual walk on at some parks. 4D's lines are just b/c the capacity stinks, the thing gets less than 500/hr in reality though spec is 720/hr Finally, the parks that need flat rides the most SFFMM and GAdv haven't gotten them and the parks that need coasters badly Stl. LaRonde, SFA haven't gotten nothing. SF is essentially banking on the people in these areas will keep buying passes and allowing themselves to be "abused" and neglected by SF, by getting year after year of poor additions

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Can you compare the ride to Knott's Voyage to the Iron Reef or DCA's Toy Story Midway Mania?

 

The ride is definitely better than Knott's Voyage, and on par with DCA's Toy Story ride.

 

But this type of ride makes more sense for a younger crowd, which works at a Disney park, but seems kind of random at a park like Magic Mountain. I'm not saying people won't ride it once they're at the park, but to think this is going to attract a crowd over 15 years old *to come out and actually visit the park for it* is stretching it a bit.

 

And guess who spends the most money at parks? Families....

 

Magic Mountain will make more money off the 15 year kid whose whole family tags along than they will a teenager who shows up and doesn't spend a penny besides their initial pass purchase (or monthly payment)...

 

 

 

Except SFMM has neglected family stuff for over a decade. That's how SF Corporate thinks about all the parks except MM and Gadv. Both neglect family rides in general and have not gotten family friendly flats. I believe the last flats for both were 450 and 400 ft drop towers. not family friendly at all

 

It's never too late to balance out the park. And with Six Flag's limited spending the past few years, that's probably what's about the happen anyway. I'm guessing next year will be another non coaster year as the park adds flats or kids rides instead.

 

Six Flags limited spending is not a few years, it's been since bankruptcy. It's all based on a formula since bankruptcy. It's here to stay and their EBIDTA is great. There is no way they are changing and said so in their investor presentation. People just didn't notice the limited spending b/c 2011-2016 b/c they were adding RMC's, YOLOcoaster, Xflight. Now that it's 4D's and superloops everywhere people seem to notice and think this is pull back. They are actually spending slightly more money each year since bankruptcy they are just spending on cloned garbage to a large extent.

 

Oh no, we've noticed, trust me. It's still a far cry from that Thomas Town, Wiggles nonsense from the Shapiro years. The limited spending now is yielding things their parks have needed since forever. Dark rides, family rides, waterpark additions, flat rides., breathing new life into old, beat up coasters.

 

This is a GOOD thing. Well.. except for enthusiasts that miss 25 million dollar mediocre B&Ms every other year.

 

 

The thing is they have a done horrible job. The parks are literally becoming all the same. They have to gimmick rides as their supposed "flagship rides" that are not going to hold up to time. JL's are a video game, people and kids lose interest in video games quickly. I an tell you know 1 year after JL's in some parks the line is nothing, it's a virtual walk on at some parks. 4D's lines are just b/c the capacity stinks, the thing gets less than 500/hr in reality though spec is 720/hr Finally, the parks that need flat rides the most SFFMM and GAdv haven't gotten them and the parks that need coasters badly Stl. LaRonde, SFA haven't gotten nothing. SF is essentially banking on the people in these areas will keep buying passes and allowing themselves to be "abused" and neglected by SF, by getting year after year of poor additions

 

I know this may sound weird, but I really don't care that much. I like the last few additions that SFMM has added to the park, and that's where it pretty much ends. I don't care that much what the chain is "banking on" because that's not my problem. Maybe it's getting older, but my days of ranting and shaking my fists at SF are over. It's boring. My friends and I will make fun of SF from time to time, but whatever...

 

 

JL won't appeal to the folks it doesn't appeal to, but during my visit, people were loving it. And of course TC was a completely solid addition. If flats come next year (because that's pretty much what they're limited to), I'll be a happy camper!

 

And at the end of the day, I still have Knotts and Disney to feel the "quality" quota.

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I will be in San Diego next week with a friend and we are considering coming up to MM for a day. I have a season pass from GAdv. What is our best option for purchasing one ticket for my friend? Are there any discounts for pass holders from other parks? Thanks!
There just aren't any pass holder discounts going on right now being the peak season... I noticed SFDK is doing BAFF days in July up north, but not SFMM as far as I can tell. If you're at least 7 days out, you can get a ticket online in advance for $58, which isn't great but beats the $80 gate price. If you don't get any advance deals, they'll give you $15 off at the ticket booth for showing a Coke can. You could always also talk your friend into getting a membership, and then at least for today you won't be paying much, and you could both go again later.
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Made out like a bandit at the park today. Especially concerning Revolution; the Coaster Gods heard my prayer.

 

Too tired to write much of a review, but I will be back at the park tomorrow. I can see the tower and X2 from my window. I enjoyed X2 but will never ride Green Lantern again.

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Can you compare the ride to Knott's Voyage to the Iron Reef or DCA's Toy Story Midway Mania?

 

The ride is definitely better than Knott's Voyage, and on par with DCA's Toy Story ride.

 

But this type of ride makes more sense for a younger crowd, which works at a Disney park, but seems kind of random at a park like Magic Mountain. I'm not saying people won't ride it once they're at the park, but to think this is going to attract a crowd over 15 years old *to come out and actually visit the park for it* is stretching it a bit.

 

And guess who spends the most money at parks? Families....

 

Magic Mountain will make more money off the 15 year kid whose whole family tags along than they will a teenager who shows up and doesn't spend a penny besides their initial pass purchase (or monthly payment)...

 

 

 

Except SFMM has neglected family stuff for over a decade. That's how SF Corporate thinks about all the parks except MM and Gadv. Both neglect family rides in general and have not gotten family friendly flats. I believe the last flats for both were 450 and 400 ft drop towers. not family friendly at all

 

It's never too late to balance out the park. And with Six Flag's limited spending the past few years, that's probably what's about the happen anyway. I'm guessing next year will be another non coaster year as the park adds flats or kids rides instead.

 

Six Flags limited spending is not a few years, it's been since bankruptcy. It's all based on a formula since bankruptcy. It's here to stay and their EBIDTA is great. There is no way they are changing and said so in their investor presentation. People just didn't notice the limited spending b/c 2011-2016 b/c they were adding RMC's, YOLOcoaster, Xflight. Now that it's 4D's and superloops everywhere people seem to notice and think this is pull back. They are actually spending slightly more money each year since bankruptcy they are just spending on cloned garbage to a large extent.

 

Oh no, we've noticed, trust me. It's still a far cry from that Thomas Town, Wiggles nonsense from the Shapiro years. The limited spending now is yielding things their parks have needed since forever. Dark rides, family rides, waterpark additions, flat rides., breathing new life into old, beat up coasters.

 

This is a GOOD thing. Well.. except for enthusiasts that miss 25 million dollar mediocre B&Ms every other year.

 

 

The thing is they have a done horrible job. The parks are literally becoming all the same. They have to gimmick rides as their supposed "flagship rides" that are not going to hold up to time. JL's are a video game, people and kids lose interest in video games quickly. I an tell you know 1 year after JL's in some parks the line is nothing, it's a virtual walk on at some parks. 4D's lines are just b/c the capacity stinks, the thing gets less than 500/hr in reality though spec is 720/hr Finally, the parks that need flat rides the most SFFMM and GAdv haven't gotten them and the parks that need coasters badly Stl. LaRonde, SFA haven't gotten nothing. SF is essentially banking on the people in these areas will keep buying passes and allowing themselves to be "abused" and neglected by SF, by getting year after year of poor additions

 

I went to SFoT before the USC vs. Alabama game and had it not been for single rider, I would have waited 2hrs for justice league.

 

The majority of six flags guests will never visit parks besides their local park.

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And guess who spends the most money at parks? Families....

 

Magic Mountain will make more money off the 15 year kid whose whole family tags along than they will a teenager who shows up and doesn't spend a penny besides their initial pass purchase (or monthly payment)...

 

This is literally the default position taken when talking about Six Flags installations like this. Except, no family with kids who "can't ride the big rides" goes to Magic Mountain. Also, I don't buy the "teenagers don't spend money" at the park anymore. Go to any park and you will see teen after teen spending money on food, games, and anything that the park has to offer that appeals to them because the teen demographic has changed. They have their own credit cards, they get money from their parents and get dropped off, they go out to have fun with the 3,4+ other friends they bring with them.

 

This ride is not going to attract any family that wouldn't be at the park in the first place.

 

Teens spend money without their "family" there with them. If anything the park should be making installations that APPEALS to teens/young 20 year olds!

 

The thing is they have a done horrible job. The parks are literally becoming all the same. They have to gimmick rides as their supposed "flagship rides" that are not going to hold up to time. JL's are a video game, people and kids lose interest in video games quickly. I an tell you know 1 year after JL's in some parks the line is nothing, it's a virtual walk on at some parks...SF is essentially banking on the people in these areas will keep buying passes and allowing themselves to be "abused" and neglected by SF, by getting year after year of poor additions

 

I can vouch for this, as I recently just visited SFDK last weekend, and besides some of the different ride offerings, many of the names or themings of the park felt quite identical to what's offered at other SF parks I've been at. Not to mention if you're counting on local visitors to continue to come to the park, they should IMPROVE things that the guests are going to see on their multiple visits to the park, which brings me to my last point.

 

I guess what I mean is instead of dumping money into a ride like this, I would rather they spend it on operations, upkeep, and refurbishing areas of the park that have been neglected over the years. And by refurbishing I actually mean finding someone in the industry who is good at it and has experience at it, instead of turning everything into a concrete wasteland.

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We'll have to agree to disagree. My Facebook news feed would seem to disgree with your points (parents happy their kids have something more to do), but to each their own Meanwhile six flags post bankruptcy is doing pretty good for itself financially, so they've found a model that works for them and is fiscally responsible. Sorry that doesn't include a mega coaster every year anymore.

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will never ride Green Lantern again.

So you got one of those rides on your first ride eh? Unlucky!

 

Guess so! I felt like I was going to 'red out'. Not fun. Not to mention the pains on certain parts of the body.

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There are 3 kinds of rides on GL: The boring flat ride, the fun flippy ride, and the painful rip your face off ride. What I like about GL is that unlike other coasters, I never know what kind I'm going to get, it's always a coin toss. The bad rides make the good ones better. Sure, a ride that's good every time like Twisted Colossus I love too, but GL excites me unlike any other coaster because it's unpredictable unlike any other coaster.

I've never had pain due to the restraints though, only due to the forces. If you get a car balanced just right where you are kind of thrown face down at the bottom of the drops and yanked back up in that position it kind of feels like it wants to rip your face off. And that can vary from just uncomfortable to extremely painful. I think it tends to happen more on cars that are unbalanced just a little bit but not a lot.

The perfectly balanced cars tend to be more boring and the extremely unbalanced ones tend to be more fun flippy. The best ride I ever got was me and a huge barely fitting in the seat person on one side and an empty seat and a very small girl on the back side. We were face down going up the lift and flipped constantly in the last half, it was great!

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Whatever adjustments they did to make it not flip has to go back! It was fun before and not painful. Sure they had the problem with some cars returning stuck upside down, is that why they made these adjustments anyway? It used to be good.

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will never ride Green Lantern again.

So you got one of those rides on your first ride eh? Unlucky!

 

Guess so! I felt like I was going to 'red out'. Not fun. Not to mention the pains on certain parts of the body.

 

That's why I call it the "grunt lantern."

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It used to be good.

Green Lantern used to be good? I rode it when it first opened and found it to be atrocious then too. For me, it's held the crown of "worst coaster currently in operation" since the day it arrived.

 

Good to hear you had success with Revolution, JT325. I assume the VR was broken on your visit?

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