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Unless you ride in the front or the back row, prepare to be jackhammered on Scream. The front row is amazing on that ride.

 

I still find it less painful than Riddler, in which case the jackhammering will give you both a headache and leg cramps.

 

Viper is an under-rated ride, IMO, and I find it to be much less painful than either of the aforementioned B&Ms.

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I never understood the complaints about Scream being either rough or rattly and I'd ride it on almost every visit. Then, a couple of years ago, we rode it and something was very different — not just rattling or slightly bumpy, but seriously jackhammering like crazy. Since then, I've ridden it a bunch and it seems to go back and forth between expected B&M performance and pretty rough. My guess is that the problem train related. Still prefer it to the other B&Ms in the park though.

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Yeah, I rode it during WCB and it was as smooth as a B&M floorless always is. I don't know where anyone is getting this idea that it's rough.

 

They probably got the idea from riding it and feeling sensations in their body.

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Even Tatsu..........?

For me, yeah — not a big fan of Tatsu (or flyers in general).

Yeah, I rode it during WCB and it was as smooth as a B&M floorless always is. I don't know where anyone is getting this idea that it's rough.

 

They probably got the idea from riding it and feeling sensations in their body.

I think it's more that the ride's fairly unpredictable these days. I never understood the gripes about until the past couple of years, but riding it many times over an extended period reveals just how temperamental it can be. It goes from standard B&M (maybe a little shaky) to "WTF happened to this ride?" within the same month it seems.

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Yeah, I rode it during WCB and it was as smooth as a B&M floorless always is. I don't know where anyone is getting this idea that it's rough.

 

They probably got the idea from riding it and feeling sensations in their body.

 

This. My group who rode Scream at WCB weren't the only ones who got off the ride complaining about the pain. Like I said, it was brutal.

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My last ride on Scream was maybe a year ago and it was the smoothest, least shaky ride I've ever had on it. It was quite surprising. Previous rides have had pretty severe jolts especially in the first half of the ride. Nothing I'd consider painful but abnormal vibrations for a B&M (not the typical rattle by any means). Like others have said, I would bet that it comes down to train maintenance and rehab, which is why it makes sense that some have had smooth rides and some have complained of roughness. I've had both experiences.

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Unless you ride in the front or the back row, prepare to be jackhammered on Scream. The front row is amazing on that ride.

 

I still find it less painful than Riddler, in which case the jackhammering will give you both a headache and leg cramps.

 

Viper is an under-rated ride, IMO, and I find it to be much less painful than either of the aforementioned B&Ms.

 

I actually rode in the front on Thursday and the "newer" train, and that is where I experienced the insane rattle. I think I'm just going to skip it now whenever I'm at the park. It's not worth having my brain shaken up like a shake weight.

 

The last time I rode Riddler was back in August and I didn't have any issues with it. A little head banging but nothing that would ruin the ride for me.

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Personally I've never had an issue with Scream. It's just an average B&M that I'll ride if there's minimal wait. It does feature my personal favorite cobra roll element however, and it's still pretty fun in the very front.

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I actually rode in the front on Thursday and the "newer" train, and that is where I experienced the insane rattle. I think I'm just going to skip it now whenever I'm at the park. It's not worth having my brain shaken up like a shake weight.

Weird. A couple of months ago, I rode in the front and it was smooth as butter. I wanted to ride again, but there were people waiting for the front row, so I moved two rows back. The difference was night and day; I had a splitting headache after riding in the middle row.

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Even the "roughest" B&M floorless / sit down is still a ridiculously smooth and enjoyable coaster.

 

I'm not 100% if I'd ride Hair Raiser again, I got front row due to assigned seating on my first ever trip and it was still fun but probably my roughest B&M, tried again for a different seat but got front row again, after that I wasn't going to try for a 3rd time for a different seat. Heard from friends who went recently who really didn't like it and it was a one and done for them.

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2) It has some bad wheels and Six Flags sucks at switching out bad B&M wheels. There have been times where certain Nitro trains were running like a jackhammer with square wheels while the other ones felt like you were floating on a cloud and in plenty of cases it was months before they bothered to swap them out. Given the complaints about general shakiness instead of normal headbanging and the fact that it's worse at the bottom of the drop where the train would be at it's fastest speed I feel like this is absolutely the case and it'll be fixed eventually but for now I chalk it up to Six Flags being Six Flags.

 

I will say ever since the ride opened, and I'm not sure how most other floorless coasters ride as I've only ever been on Scream and Dæmonen in Copenhagen (and Dæmonen was from what I remember, very smooth with a softer wheel compound), but the wheel compound while riding Scream always felt VERY hard, something in stark contrast to the wheel compound on Tatsu, which is quite soft. Tatsu IMO is one of the smoothest coasters I've ever been on. So I think this greatly contributes to Scream's roughness, and although it's not the roughest coaster I've ever been on, I do know the "shuffling" people are talking about. That's something that IMO has developed over time.

 

And this has been said before but apparently the piece of track at the bottom of the drop/before the first loop on Scream was damaged upon installation, something like it was dropped and damaged. The strangest thing to me is since Scream is literally installed on flat ground, on concrete/black top/ in probably the easiest place ever to install a ride, it should be the most consistent and undamaged coaster in B&M's entire portfolio. So to me this is on Magic Mountain and the Scream trains.

 

No reason for Scream to be rough AT ALL.

 

Also wasn't it supposed to be installed somewhere else and SFMM ended up with it at the last minute? Which contributes to it's terrible, budget friendly, "not well thought out" location.

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2) It has some bad wheels and Six Flags sucks at switching out bad B&M wheels. There have been times where certain Nitro trains were running like a jackhammer with square wheels while the other ones felt like you were floating on a cloud and in plenty of cases it was months before they bothered to swap them out. Given the complaints about general shakiness instead of normal headbanging and the fact that it's worse at the bottom of the drop where the train would be at it's fastest speed I feel like this is absolutely the case and it'll be fixed eventually but for now I chalk it up to Six Flags being Six Flags.

 

I will say ever since the ride opened, and I'm not sure how most other floorless coasters ride as I've only ever been on Scream and Dæmonen in Copenhagen (and Dæmonen was from what I remember, very smooth with a softer wheel compound)

 

With SFDK's Medusa not far away from where I live, I can tell you the rides are like night and day. Medusa has always been smooth on my rides, while Scream beats me like a redheaded step child.

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The park was dead today. Like, dead dead for such a beautiful perfect weather day.

 

Just about everything was walk-on or re-ride, except TNR.

 

Seemed like Twisted Colossus was having a bit of a tough day, as we saw it evacuated twice from the lift, and also the restraints in the station would absolutely not release for one poor train. However, they got it back up by mid-afternoon.

 

An excellent week to visit before the spring break onslaught. Staffing levels and attitudes seemed appropriate. Park was very clean. This was actually the most fun I've had there in a long time.

 

Did I mention you should go?

 

Disclaimer, I do work occasionally at the park as a technical subcontractor so I'm slightly biased

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This is the best time of year to go, IMO. The weather's nice, everyone is still in school, and most of the rides are open. I stopped by the park for a little while on Monday evening and everything was a station wait (except Revolution, which still had an hour wait).

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The park was dead today. Like, dead dead for such a beautiful perfect weather day.

 

 

 

I concur today at SFMM was EPIC.

 

No people at all.

 

Monday had more, Tues had less than Monday, but today with excellent weather and not the big massive groups.

 

Zero buses were in the parking lot.

 

Wow what a great day and it was also a Bring A Freind Free date .... cant figger out where all were.

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With SFDK's Medusa not far away from where I live, I can tell you the rides are like night and day. Medusa has always been smooth on my rides, while Scream beats me like a redheaded step child.

 

 

Medusa is usually smooth, but I've had a couple rides on it where it felt like the wheels were past the point where they should have been replaced. I rode Medusa its opening year and most of the time it rides as good as new.

 

I've had some great rides on Scream but my last ride (West Coast Bash 2015) was not fun. It's a shame, because the dive loop / zero g roll is excellent.

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