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So I'm going on Sunday and I'm wondering if anyone has ever snuck in snacks, and if so how did you do it. (I'm a teenager and can't really afford buying lunch and dinner there so that's why I want to take in snacks)

 

Please follow all park rules. Leave food in your car and go get it when you are hungry (that's why they have the picnic area in the parking lot).

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Park is dead right now... X2 is walk on with rerides and FT is 5 min wait

 

Wow was the rest of the park empty all day too?

 

Yes. TC was only running two trains (purple was off) and was about 40 min. Everything else had a really short wait. Tatsu was a station wait at 8:30.

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How is the reliability for F/u/l/l Throttle? Not the capacity, just the reliability, because I am looking to see which manufacturer makes the most reliable launch coasters.

FT may be a bad example. I think it goes down a little more than average. It's kind of hard to judge reliability across all coasters by a manufacturer though, some designs like FT's are more prone to issues. Superman:UF at SFDK (also by Premier) is extremely reliable - though I'm sure it's happened, I can't remember ever seeing that coaster down for technical problems, and it by design only has one train. It's design has now been cloned, which is always a sign of superior reliability.

 

I know the Intamin accelerator coasters are infamous for breakdowns, and the Impulse shuttles even moreso...so Intamin may be at the bottom of the list. Maverick has pretty good reliability, but there aren't a lot of Blitz coasters to compare it to, and the launch isn't as touch as with other designs.

 

Anyway its a short list, because it would be unfair to put RMC and Vekoma in there as both have only recently put out their very first launch coasters. Schwarzkopf flywheel launch shuttles are very reliable, though there are very few left. The one in America at KBF is practically bulletproof, it rarely goes down. (Though when it does, its a lengthy delay).

 

It might be more fair to judge the reliability of the types of launch rather than the manufacturer. Within that I would still say that the coasters designed to just barely launch riders to the top such as FT and Dragster are more prone to issues just by their layout.

So let's say for uptime/reliability: Magnetic > Flywheel > Hydraulic probably (and still with an asterisk because I think all of the hydraulic launches are accelerators, so the lack in reliability is not usually due to the hydraulics but rather susceptibility to weather conditions). Is there another type I'm not thinking of?

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Is there another type I'm not thinking of?

S&S makes Air Powered launched coasters, right (Powder Keg, Dodonpa). I'm not sure about the reliability of those, as I haven't gotten to a park that has one.

Powder Keg is iffy. It starts late about as often as it starts on time. Once it gets going, it tends to perform reliably the rest of the day. It does have issues with not being able to run in the rain, but that's due to the sensors on the moving track piece, and not the launch.

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Mack makes launched coasters. Only been on Manta at Sea World San Diego and it was running all day--and that was quite a fun ride. Would really like to somehow ride Helix someday at Liseberg.

 

On Wednesday I will be making my annual trip to Magic Mountain. I have a couple of questions:

1. For the Discover Card entrance, is it only the person with the card that is allowed in or also the family members of the person with the card? My kids don't have Discover cards.

2. Are there any other single rider lines besides Lex Luthor, Riddler, Revolution, and Green Lantern?

3. I'm reading that X2's line tends to get shorter in the afternoon. Usually we ride X2 first followed by Tatsu and then Superman. Would a better strategy be Tatsu, Superman, rest of park, then X2 in afternoon? I'm certain my family will want to ride X2 twice, and I would rather wait longer for that than Tatsu. Usually we end the day with the second ride on X2.

4. The only ride we haven't gone on is Goliath (ran out of time 2 years ago, was missing its chain lift chain last year). Any recommendations where to fit that in during the day for a shorter wait?

 

Thank you in advance for your help.

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How are the crowds the first week of October? We are going on a Friday literally right after we land after a flight from Japan. Only have one day, so want to get as much as we can in. Fly out the next day.

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^ I'm not a local so I can't give you the best answer, but I visited the park on a Friday in October a couple of years ago and the place was pretty empty during the day. Every coaster I rode was a walk-on or station wait.

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Mack makes launched coasters. Only been on Manta at Sea World San Diego and it was running all day--and that was quite a fun ride. Would really like to somehow ride Helix someday at Liseberg.

 

On Wednesday I will be making my annual trip to Magic Mountain. I have a couple of questions:

1. For the Discover Card entrance, is it only the person with the card that is allowed in or also the family members of the person with the card? My kids don't have Discover cards.

2. Are there any other single rider lines besides Lex Luthor, Riddler, Revolution, and Green Lantern?

3. I'm reading that X2's line tends to get shorter in the afternoon. Usually we ride X2 first followed by Tatsu and then Superman. Would a better strategy be Tatsu, Superman, rest of park, then X2 in afternoon? I'm certain my family will want to ride X2 twice, and I would rather wait longer for that than Tatsu. Usually we end the day with the second ride on X2.

4. The only ride we haven't gone on is Goliath (ran out of time 2 years ago, was missing its chain lift chain last year). Any recommendations where to fit that in during the day for a shorter wait?

 

Thank you in advance for your help.

 

1) I think that it is the cardholder and their family, but I would have to check

2) No. Sorry

3) Yes X2s line does get shorter in the afternoon. When you get to the park, run(or just briskly walk) to The New Revolution. Ride it with VR in the morning, then in the afternoon you can ride with single rider. They don't allow you to do VR with single rider. But, yes. I would do Revolution, Tatsu, Superman, other rides, and then from 2-4pm, do X2.

4) I have personally never ridden Goliath due to fear of blacking out (yes it's that intense), but everyone else says that it has virtually no airtime, and extremely high g-forces, to the point where people would grey/black out And it's super fun in the front row. It's pretty popular, so after Superman, go ride Twosted Colossus and then Golitah.

 

Hope this helps

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Growing up at SFMM, I can't say I've ever noticed a point where the line is shorter during a point in the day vs another.

Yes it is intense, yes you're going to grey out. It's fun though. I like the front mostly because you kind of dangle over the drop before plummeting. Pretty fun.

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Growing up at SFMM, I can't say I've ever noticed a point where the line is shorter during a point in the day vs another.

Yes it is intense, yes you're going to grey out. It's fun though. I like the front mostly because you kind of dangle over the drop before plummeting. Pretty fun.

 

Goliath's line is short for the first hour or so after opening and then shortens again in the last hour or so before closing. Any other time and it will probably be about the same length.

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How are the crowds the first week of October? We are going on a Friday literally right after we land after a flight from Japan. Only have one day, so want to get as much as we can in. Fly out the next day.

 

those fright fest friday's are usually pretty dead during the day.

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How are the crowds the first week of October? We are going on a Friday literally right after we land after a flight from Japan. Only have one day, so want to get as much as we can in. Fly out the next day.

 

those fright fest friday's are usually pretty dead during the day.

 

I went on a fright fest friday last october. got on the 2nd row and 1 up from the rear row on TC, then went on a middle row of Golaith which had a decent wait oddly, longer then TC's was. Went on Lex and riddler and it was a walk on for both essentially then hit up Superman and rode the express down the mountain and left. It was really hot that day though. Nearly 100 I think.

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Thanks for the help!

 

I'm going to try X2 in the afternoon this time.

 

Bummer that Goliath's line stays long most of the day, but as I recall the line moves decently fast with two train operation.

 

I'm just going to do the non-vr version of revolution with the single rider line. I remember riding it as a kid when it was only lapbars, so I'm excited to see how close it is to its original self.

 

If anybody else knows if entire families can use the discover card entrance, let me know.

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Mack makes launched coasters. Only been on Manta at Sea World San Diego and it was running all day--and that was quite a fun ride. Would really like to somehow ride Helix someday at Liseberg.

 

On Wednesday I will be making my annual trip to Magic Mountain. I have a couple of questions:

1. For the Discover Card entrance, is it only the person with the card that is allowed in or also the family members of the person with the card? My kids don't have Discover cards.

2. Are there any other single rider lines besides Lex Luthor, Riddler, Revolution, and Green Lantern?

3. I'm reading that X2's line tends to get shorter in the afternoon. Usually we ride X2 first followed by Tatsu and then Superman. Would a better strategy be Tatsu, Superman, rest of park, then X2 in afternoon? I'm certain my family will want to ride X2 twice, and I would rather wait longer for that than Tatsu. Usually we end the day with the second ride on X2.

4. The only ride we haven't gone on is Goliath (ran out of time 2 years ago, was missing its chain lift chain last year). Any recommendations where to fit that in during the day for a shorter wait?

 

Thank you in advance for your help.

 

1) I think that it is the cardholder and their family, but I would have to check

2) No. Sorry

3) Yes X2s line does get shorter in the afternoon. When you get to the park, run(or just briskly walk) to The New Revolution. Ride it with VR in the morning, then in the afternoon you can ride with single rider. They don't allow you to do VR with single rider. But, yes. I would do Revolution, Tatsu, Superman, other rides, and then from 2-4pm, do X2.

4) I have personally never ridden Goliath due to fear of blacking out (yes it's that intense), but everyone else says that it has virtually no airtime, and extremely high g-forces, to the point where people would grey/black out And it's super fun in the front row. It's pretty popular, so after Superman, go ride Twosted Colossus and then Golitah.

 

Hope this helps

1) I'm positive it's not JUST the cardholder, that would be crazy if you think about it, it would eliminate kids from that line completely. I'm not sure if there's a limit on how many people, but I think it's safe to assume your party would be fine if it's of a reasonable size.

2) Actually yes, Riddler's Revenge has single rider. Viper has it too, but it's rare that you'd actually need it.

4) Best time to hit Goliath is early in the morning when everyone else is rushing to X2, TC, and FT. It has maintained a pretty steady popularity and the line isn't often out of control but is almost always pretty steady. Flash Pass works well for Goliath (though running up and down those stairs kind of sucks)

Growing up at SFMM, I can't say I've ever noticed a point where the line is shorter during a point in the day vs another.

Yes it is intense, yes you're going to grey out. It's fun though. I like the front mostly because you kind of dangle over the drop before plummeting. Pretty fun.

If you don't want to grey out on Goliath, tilt your head to the left during the helix, so that your head reminds straight up and down with the ground (tilt your left ear towards your left shoulder). That keeps the blood from running out of your head which is what causes the grey out.
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I haven't been to Magic Mountain yet, but I have used the Discover entrances at St. Louis and Great America, and both times they asked who was in my party. I pointed out my wife and three kids, and they let all of us in. I would expect Magic Mountain would do the same.

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3. I'm reading that X2's line tends to get shorter in the afternoon. Usually we ride X2 first followed by Tatsu and then Superman. Would a better strategy be Tatsu, Superman, rest of park, then X2 in afternoon? I'm certain my family will want to ride X2 twice, and I would rather wait longer for that than Tatsu. Usually we end the day with the second ride on X2.

I've found the short X2 line in the afternoon to be inconsistent. Out of my 3 most recent visits (spread out over 2 years, mind you), only one saw the line shorten. The first two times I tried that strategy, the line was long all day. However, on my third visit, the line was around 15 minutes from entering the queue to boarding the ride. I started checking around 3, and the short line happened around 4:30. I stuck with the ride for 1.5 hours, and the wait stayed short the entire time. I'll be going next Thursday, and I plan on heading straight to X2, as I really enjoy the ride and don't want to deal with a 2-3 hour wait. My usual strategy is to head straight to X2, then to the back of the park (Tatsu usually sports a hefty wait by the time I get of X2). The back of the park (Batman, Riddler's Revenge, Green Lantern, and Lex Luthor) are all bona fide walk-ons for at least an hour, until the crowds make their way back there. That's my personal experience. Hope this helps. Have fun, and keep drinking water all day!

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If it's really busy, then the line for X2 just plain won't shorten very much because there are so many people in the park. However, I have never been when it hasn't shortened to some extent. Even on super busy days, I've pretty much seen a 90 minute line in the morning shrink to 60 by 4pm. It will usually shrink by a half hour or so.

 

X2 was a walk-on from 3-6 pm yesterday so there should be some luck next week. Also for Tatsu, get in line in the last 15 minutes before closing and you'll have a really short line. Even on really busy days. I've seen a 90 min line shrink to only 20 min right before closing.

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I have to agree with a couple of the recent posts questioning X2's line becoming shorter as the day progresses. Although I've certainly seen the line drop down to almost nothing on fairly busy days, I haven't been able to detect any discernible pattern / logic. What I'll sometimes do is jump on Viper and gauge X2's line from Viper's lift hill. The only downside to that is that it means that you have to ride Viper and, potentially, X2.

 

Goliath is similar; I never really see a clear pattern of change in the line. On days when the park's moderately busy, Goliath always seems to have a longer wait than most rides for much of the day. If anything, Goliath seems more busy toward the end of the day with people trying to get last rides in. It's only on days when the park is clearly dead that you stand a good chance of not having to wait at all. Goliath has glacial operations, so even when the line appears to be short, it can feel like it's not moving at all.

 

The only rides that seem somewhat consistent in terms of a guaranteed wait are Füll Thröttle and Tatsu — both of which are usually packed all day long on days when the park is decently filled. Revolution is the same now that they've killed the capacity with the silly VR-masks (ride single rider — it's much better that way), but everything else there seems to vary in terms of wait times. As others noted, the park's other B&Ms rarely garner long waits, although even that's unpredictable as the last time I was there, there was a line for Scream — which I don't think I've ever seen before.

 

Unfortunately, the wait times app on the phone doesn't work for crap, so I wouldn't rely too heavily on that.

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Yet another dead day at the park today. FT isn't even under the canopy and Goliath's line starts in the station.

What, really? I just drove by and saw a ton of cars in the parking lot out to Scream's corkscrews and debated going in. Decided not to. I suppose all the guests are in HH. Guess I'll swing by tonight and get a good lap in.

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