mike932 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 (edited) First looping coaster in North America..... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flip_Flap_Railway Video of the coaster at the end of this clip.... Edited September 3, 2015 by mike932 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy T. Koepp Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 ^Did you meant to put this in the Knott's thread? If so, Modern Looping. I think 100+ years is a bit out of the modern time frame. If not, then... ...nevermind. Hmmmmmmmm! Deja Vu? Couldn't be, they moved that to 6FNE years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedarFlags Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 First looping coaster in North America.....https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flip_Flap_Railway This. Thank you. Rev was the "first modern looping coaster", and deserves to be recognized for its achievement of figuring out how to make a vertical loop that didn't maim anyone. However, it was many MANY years late to the "world's first looping coaster" party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
805Andrew Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 I am still in awe that Revolution is actually getting restored. They actually listened to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirMBTB Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 (edited) That's not completely new trains as the announcement stated. It NEEDS new trains. Imagine running the course with no slop or backlash whipping jolts, you just hug the track and take the dives and turns a lot smoother. That would be nice again. The old Schwarzkopf trains do hug the track, but not super-tight like RMC or B&M, for example. It's just enough to be right in the middle; smooth, but a little "feel" so it still feels like you're on a roller coaster. The wheel/track gap and lateral movement (without shoulder bars, of course) are what makes a coaster feel wild, and a little out of control. Anton perfected that. Those old trains are the perfect bridge between old/loose woodies and new "grip the rail TIGHT" coasters. Many new "grip the rail" rides hit the curves TOO hard; there has to be a comprimise in design or a little "give" somewhere. Anton built those coasters with hinges at every single track/support junction; in addition to the little gap between wheel/track. It's utter perfection. There is very little vibration; that energy goes into the track flexing. If you watch an Arrow ride, there is a shaking of the track which goes right up into the seat and into your head. Schwarzkopf surely didn't think his rides would be running with over the shoulder restraints, making the innate motion of his rides painful. Just look at the beautiful side-to-side action: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ida3FgIcB6E Edited September 3, 2015 by AirMBTB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking86 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Was Revolution the only modern looping coaster to run without headrests? I don't know about anyone else... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirMBTB Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 ^sooperdooperLooper didn't have them for the first couple years. If you look close, no headrests. There are better pictures out there if someone can find them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike932 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 ^ No sitting on the bannisters, sir. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking86 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 ^^Thanks! I didn't think about SooperDooperLooper. Now I learnt something new today. Cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pianojohn Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 FINALLY they do something right! Not sure if this was posted already, but they are having an awesome sale on Season Passes. So awesome that I bought a SFMM one even though I live in Orlando! I'll be able to process it at WCB and then it will be good for the rest of 2015 and all 2016 at all Six Flags parks. A real steal at just $80 with tax. Anyone else crazy like me? I probably won't even use it at SFMM in 2016 unless work takes me out there. But having it will give me incentive to FINALLY visit SF St. Louis. Ciao! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCXfreak Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 I really love this. I'm glad Revo is getting a upgrade. Lots a childhood memories...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rba13 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Great. Now bring back the log jammer and the Magic Pagoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedlr Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 FINALLY they do something right! Not sure if this was posted already, but they are having an awesome sale on Season Passes. So awesome that I bought a SFMM one even though I live in Orlando! I'll be able to process it at WCB and then it will be good for the rest of 2015 and all 2016 at all Six Flags parks. A real steal at just $80 with tax. Anyone else crazy like me? I probably won't even use it at SFMM in 2016 unless work takes me out there. But having it will give me incentive to FINALLY visit SF St. Louis. Ciao! Maybe slightly less crazy here. I'm definitely going to order one and process it during WCB so I can come back for Revolution and try to make my way up to SFDK for Joker next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJnCFL Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Awesome news! I did like this coaster despite the restraints and I'm happy I'll be able to ride it the way it was intended to be. Great job SFMM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirMBTB Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Great. Now bring back the log jammer and the Magic Pagoda Yes please! Removing that ride and the luscious foliage was a serious YOLO moment I just noticed on the SFMM site, it says Revolution will be painted white and blue. I wonder what they will paint blue? My vote is for all white, but the blue certainly is not a complaint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singemfrc Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 I just noticed on the SFMM site, it says Revolution will be painted white and blue. I wonder what they will paint blue? My vote is for all white, but the blue certainly is not a complaint.I'm guessing the cars will be primarily red then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFMM fanboy Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 So, given that SFMM was able to open Superman by spring break, do you think Revolution will be reopened that early? I think it's supposed to close soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirMBTB Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 I'm so excited over this, I can hardly stop my head from spinning. Let's hope it's done with the utmost care, as it deserves. You can get a close up of the train from the SFMM website. Note the graphics on top of an Iron Rattler train. Time will tell what the real trains will look like. Think they'll have 3 trains? Bigger image of train: https://www.sixflags.com/sites/default/files/sfmm-nr-ka.jpg Maybe a new lighting package, too? Let's hope! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingwright Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 I'm so excited over this, I can hardly stop my head from spinning. Let's hope it's done with the utmost care, as it deserves. You can get a close up of the train from the SFMM website. Note the graphics on top of an Iron Rattler train. Time will tell what the real trains will look like. Think they'll have 3 trains? Bigger image of train: https://www.sixflags.com/sites/default/files/sfmm-nr-ka.jpg OMG, that photoshop in the 2nd row! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tmcdllr Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 This has got to be the most anticipated/hoped for transformation in the last decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gisco Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 So this will make it seem like it is a whole new ride, new credit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singemfrc Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 So this will make it seem like it is a whole new ride, new credit? What is and isnt a new credit is subjective to each person..to me it's not a new credit. In my opinion it's only a new credit if the layout changes. So for me for example, X and X2 were not different credits, but Twisted Colossus and Colossus are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geauga Dog Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 I have always had a fascination with Revolution ever since I first saw it in the move Roller Coaster back in 1977 and I was excited to finally get to ride it in 2001. Love the layout, love the dense foliage that has grown around it, but the trains really ruined it. I am thrilled that the ride will be back to its original state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirMBTB Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 "That's not a real gun, is it Clark!?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fxxQbnjcD8 Check out that side-to-side action! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tmcdllr Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Too bad the updated movie didn't film until this was complete and used it in the movie. How cool would that be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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