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Am I the only one who wishes that drop was much higher? It starts to flatten out too soon :O

 

If you want a bigger drop there's plenty of other options in the park. I actually think Twisted Colossus is just the right height as a significantly larger hill wouldn't look like the original version and due to California's earthquake codes it would be quite expensive to build.

 

The ride is looking good. I'm excited to see how the blue and green side-by-side tracks will look coming down the drop.

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Am I the only one who wishes that drop was much higher? It starts to flatten out too soon :O

 

nope, i also was hoping they raised it, but didn't think they would from history of refurbishing. after riding SFGA Goliath, i was so hoping for a 200 footer. i'm perfectly fine with what we are getting. did get the zero g stall i love.

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If you want a bigger drop there's plenty of other options in the park.

 

That's the other issue ... at SFMM, the only 'big drop' is Goliath, but that drop flattens out too soon as well and the drop angle is only 61. X2 IMO is the best drop, but that's a different beast altogether.

 

What we need is a giga coaster

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perfectly fine with what we are getting. did get the zero g stall i love.

 

Actually, that's the part that looks the most intriguing to me, besides it being a mobius loop. The ride design I think could've been more interesting, it's essentially two big oval loops around the track. I am excited to ride it though, I just think it could've been pushed further

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If you want a bigger drop there's plenty of other options in the park.

 

That's the other issue ... at SFMM, the only 'big drop' is Goliath, but that drop flattens out too soon as well and the drop angle is only 61. X2 IMO is the best drop, but that's a different beast altogether.

 

Let's see...Twisted Colossus has a 128 ft drop, so the following are all larger:

 

Full Throttle: ~160 ft

Goliath: 255 ft

Riddler's Revenge: 146 ft

Scream: 141 ft

Superman: 328 ft

Viper: 171 ft

X2: 215 ft

 

Even if you throw out the B&M coasters, SFMM still has five coasters with a big drop by anybody's standard, and three with a drop of over 200 ft (not sure if any other park can claim that, even possibly Cedar Point). Even if some of these aren't particularly great, the point is that SFMM doesn't need another coaster with a huge first drop. Based on my experience, Twisted Colossus's 128 ft drop is probably going to be significantly better than Goliath's 255 ft drop anyway.

 

Honestly, given past RMC conversions and California I think anyone who was expecting a 150+ ft coaster was probably expecting a bit too much. Not saying you can't dream, but don't judge a ride until you ride it.

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Let's see...Twisted Colossus has a 128 ft drop, so the following are all larger:

 

YOLOcoaster: ~160 ft

Goliath: 255 ft

Riddler's Revenge: 146 ft

Scream: 141 ft

Superman: 328 ft

Viper: 171 ft

X2: 215 ft

 

I guess the word choice could've been better, I personally didn't mean no other drop in the park was as big (length), I was thinking more along the lines of 'significant'. To me, the TC drop is significant in that the drop is steep (finally!), but the length is short. Goliath has a lengthy drop, but the angle is not steep. Riddlers, YOLO, Scream, Viper's drops are all nice, but nothing special about them. X2 is amazing, period, but different. Personally, I'd like a nice steep AND lengthy drop, a la, a giga coaster Something we completely don't even have on the west coast :/ I'm still super excited to ride TC (my first RMC), but having a bigger drop wouldn't have hurt is all I'm saying

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If you want a bigger drop there's plenty of other options in the park.

 

That's the other issue ... at SFMM, the only 'big drop' is Goliath, but that drop flattens out too soon as well and the drop angle is only 61. X2 IMO is the best drop, but that's a different beast altogether.

 

Let's see...Twisted Colossus has a 128 ft drop, so the following are all larger:

 

YOLOcoaster: ~160 ft

Goliath: 255 ft

Riddler's Revenge: 146 ft

Scream: 141 ft

Superman: 328 ft

Viper: 171 ft

X2: 215 ft

 

 

I don't mean to sound like that guy, but this is why each of those aren't my favorites...

 

yolo, i don't really call anything it does a drop. over the top hat would be pretty cool, if it didn't brake.

goliath is pretty good, but the slow down at the top kills it. it would be much better, imo, if it just flew over. i could have sworn when it was new it did. can anyone confirm that? my memory fails me.

the B&M twisty drops i'm not really a fan of. but, i do really love Banshee's drop, it's profiled different. back, outside right please.

superman is better for acceleration than the drop, for me.

viper and X2 both beat me up so i just spend more time on stuff i like.

 

my favorites are long straight ejector drops. so, although smaller, i'm sure i'll love colossus' new drops.

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three with a drop of over 200 ft (not sure if any other park can claim that, even possibly Cedar Point).

 

I hate to be that guy, but Cedar Point has four. (Top Thrill, Millennium, Magnum XL and Wicked Twister.)

 

That being said, I don't think that a small drop is anything to be ashamed of. Tons of rides pack a smallish drop with a great overall experience.

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I don't mean to sound like that guy, but this is why each of those aren't my favorites...

 

yolo, i don't really call anything it does a drop. over the top hat would be pretty cool, if it didn't brake.

goliath is pretty good, but the slow down at the top kills it. it would be much better, imo, if it just flew over. i could have sworn when it was new it did. can anyone confirm that? my memory fails me.

the B&M twisty drops i'm not really a fan of. but, i do really love Banshee's drop, it's profiled different. back, outside right please.

superman is better for acceleration than the drop, for me.

viper and X2 both beat me up so i just spend more time on stuff i like.

 

my favorites are long straight ejector drops. so, although smaller, i'm sure i'll love colossus' new drops.

 

^ AGREED! That Yolo brake on the downside of that top hat completely kills that element for me, and is the only non-smooth part of that ride (it's a pretty hard brake!)

Goliath: same here, that mid-course brake right before the helix, SIGHHHHH, it's almost to a complete 100% standstill! It didn't do that when the ride first opened.

Superman: same here, it's all about that acceleration... I assume same thing can be said about TTD and KK.

Viper: ehhh, too bumpy

X2: I'm one of the people that don't find X2 to be harsh at all, especially considering all of what it's doing. And that face-down drop with the mini-pip at the top make this pretty much perfect. Compared to Dinocanda/Eejanaika, I wish X2 had that full-twist+corkscrew element in place of where the backflip is after the inner raven turn. But given X2 was the first of it's type way before the latter two, I'd give it a pass

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I mean, I'm pretty sure small drops are made sometimes to increase intensity of forces. Imagine a 100 foot drop: Pop of airtime, small sense of falling down, followed quickly by positive G's. Now for a larger drop: The large curvature at the apex would probably result in less airtime at the top, more falling sense, but positive G's would be less sudden and more gradual near the end of the drop. Just think of something like a mega lite (small drop) and Leviathan (large drop). I'm pretty sure the better, more fun, and forceful drop goes to the mega lite... but that's just me.

 

Personally I love what RMC is doing, they make not the largest coasters with the biggest elements, but they make compact rides that are intense, quick, and fun - which is surely what every enthusiast loves. And that is why they have done so well in the industry.

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I mean, I'm pretty sure small drops are made sometimes to increase intensity of forces. Imagine a 100 foot drop: Pop of airtime, small sense of falling down, followed quickly by positive G's. Now for a larger drop: The large curvature at the apex would probably result in less airtime at the top, more falling sense, but positive G's would be less sudden and more gradual near the end of the drop. Just think of something like a mega lite (small drop) and Leviathan (large drop). I'm pretty sure the better, more fun, and forceful drop goes to the mega lite... but that's just me.

 

Personally I love what RMC is doing, they make not the largest coasters with the biggest elements, but they make compact rides that are intense, quick, and fun - which is surely what every enthusiast loves. And that is why they have done so well in the industry.

 

yeah, alan even said in that interview that he thinks wicked cyclone will be the best one yet, and it's small. because yeah, the taller the drop, the more pullout you need. i think TC will be a decent combo of both, but more on the larger drawn out scale than non stop action of wicked cyclone.

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Goliath: same here, that mid-course brake right before the helix, SIGHHHHH, it's almost to a complete 100% standstill! It didn't do that when the ride first opened.

Superman: same here, it's all about that acceleration... I assume same thing can be said about TTD and KK.

 

the slow down mid course i definitely know, but i was curious about the slow down before the first drop. i don't remember doing it before.

 

while i like superman's acceleration, TTD is way better. Formula Rossa must be insane.

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