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In terms of timing, what I could see them doing is adjusting the lift speed, like they can do with Dragons. Back when it was Dueling Dragons, they could adjust the speed of each lift hill to make sure that the trans synchronized properly. They must be able to do this with TC as well. Perhaps the lift hill could be stopped completely as the blue track finishes, so it can wait for the next train.

 

Still, even if they cannot figure this out or never race them, this will still be by far the best ride in the park.

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Do the cute little pre lift bumps count in the 18 moments of airtime?

 

 

I counted the third time I watched it, minus the pre lift bumps. If you're in the back seat, you get 20 moments of airtime. If you are in the front, you get 18-20. Of course we won't know for sure until we ride it. But most of our time will be spent flying above our seat. Be content!

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I've watched the video from all the Six Flags announcements today many times over. I won't even get into them calling a flat ride a coaster...

 

I've been on the first hybrid NTAG and it's amazing, it's aggressive and smooth and has amazing air time and surprises...

 

I knew they would redo Colossus but I find I'm disappointed in what came out. And like many of you, confused... how do you take a coaster that was 4300ft, make it a dual run and it's only about 5000ft. Four minutes of ride time... how much spent on the lift hill you go up twice? The appeal of this coaster is the interaction part and I think most of us here can agree that it wont happen with Six Flags ops.

 

I do feel like a spoiled child in my reaction though. I wanted this new video game, but I wanted the collector's edition and only got the standard.

 

I'm excited to have a RMC hybrid at SFMM... I'd be a lot more excited to be getting a Wicked Cyclone.

 

Meanwhile... the Labor Day Sale is awesome. I was able to get Gold passes for $57 this season from a 'special' invite (that I'm sure most subscribers got). I'm trying to convert to a membership instead of the pass as you can get a Gold Pass upgrade for $5.85 a month, but the website is erroring out. Thought it was just firewalls at work, but I came home and tried to process the error same thing. I saw a tweet from them about it hours ago, they were aware of the issue and working on it, but there has been no change. Anyone else try to get a membership today?

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No one has brought up the announcement video yet, so I will.

 

Why is the music and setting for the ride very light-hearted and cheery? It confuses me as SFMM has always used a much more "intimidating" or "dark" music and setting. Come to think of it, has any Six Flags park promote a new thrill coaster cheery? Has ANY other park, for that matter? The music is actually really good anyway, it just doesn't seem like it's the right marketing for a major coaster.

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No one has brought up the announcement video yet, so I will.

 

Why is the music and setting for the ride very light-hearted and cheery? It confuses me as SFMM has always used a much more "intimidating" or "dark" music and setting. Come to think of it, has any Six Flags park promote a new thrill coaster cheery? Has ANY other park, for that matter? The music is actually really good anyway, it just doesn't seem like it's the right marketing for a major coaster.

 

Yeah, between the music and the steam punk logo, you can really see the cohesive, auteur vision at work here.

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No one has brought up the announcement video yet, so I will.

 

Why is the music and setting for the ride very light-hearted and cheery? It confuses me as SFMM has always used a much more "intimidating" or "dark" music and setting. Come to think of it, has any Six Flags park promote a new thrill coaster cheery? Has ANY other park, for that matter? The music is actually really good anyway, it just doesn't seem like it's the right marketing for a major coaster.

 

Honestly, I think Six Flags is clueless in terms of what they're doing on the marketing front right now. From the naming of the rides this year and the age demographic they're trying to target, it's just stupid IMO. This "Back Alley" section sounds like a place a group of misfit teenagers would hangout at and that is probably who they're trying to target.

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Regarding the length, it seems about half of the ride is being axed in this transformation. Whereas the original version's second turnaround was to the right--leading to more hills, a third turnaround, and even more hills before the brake run--Twisted Colossus's second turnaround is to the left, leading immediately to the second lift / the brake run. So quite a bit of track is being lost here. This explains how two 4,300 foot tracks have been combined to equal less than 5,000 feet.

 

I'm so incredibly stoked for this ride, regardless, though. While I'm not sure this is my favorite RMC layout I've seen (it seems to retain a more traditional out-and-back style that is, ironically, less "twisty" than some of the company's other creations), the dueling aspect of this coaster is incredible, and I think the idea of combining the two sides into one is brilliant. I also love the green and blue track against the white supports, and the "Top Gun" stall should be an awesome moment. And it looks like a double-down drop will finally return to Colossus? The pre-lift bunny hills look very cool, too, but are we sure we can take those seriously? haha I feel like the videographer is playing with us there...

 

I think the ability of this coaster to duel on an ongoing basis will depend on how many trains the park purchases for the ride. As others have said, there need to be at least three trains operating at any given time in order for dueling to occur. But let's not forget about how long the park seems to take when doing train rehab. If only three trains are purchased, won't one usually be out of service? And as much as I'd like to believe in the park purchasing four trains, I'll believe it when I see it. (Full Throttle, anyone?) Otherwise, though, I have no doubt the synchronization can be worked out through conscientious ops or variable lift motors.

 

The "Back Alley" renovation is actually really exciting to me, too! That area is in desperate need of a refresh. I assume the parking lot underneath Scream! will be replaced with grass, and the ride given a repaint? ha In all seriousness, that ride has become a major eyesore, what with the faded paint, crumbling parking lot foundation, abandoned photo booth, et. al. Hopefully something is done to spruce it up a bit.

 

Off to buy my 2015 Season Pass!

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No one has brought up the announcement video yet, so I will.

 

Why is the music and setting for the ride very light-hearted and cheery? It confuses me as SFMM has always used a much more "intimidating" or "dark" music and setting. Come to think of it, has any Six Flags park promote a new thrill coaster cheery? Has ANY other park, for that matter? The music is actually really good anyway, it just doesn't seem like it's the right marketing for a major coaster.

 

I noticed that as well. The only reason I see for it is because the original Colossus was such an iconic coaster and full of nostalgia that the music they used for Twisted Colossus had to be more lighthearted to encourage not just us coaster junkies to ride it but bring in a new crowd who will WANT to ride it.

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Someone a little more knowledgeable about this please settle this.

 

Does it look like you get to ride both sides at the same time, or go through the ride twice on the same ride? Or is this two separate rides? (Where you have to get off the blue side if you want to ride the green side?) And is this two tracks or one?

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People no dual loading stations, pay attention to the video. One track painted 2 colors for the different experiences.
I thought some people were talking about a dual loading station like Kingda Ka or Manta?

 

And that could be the trick question. Yes it might have a station like Tatsu or KK! It would make loading and dispatching for this beast better. Most people here are talking about waiting in line for 2 different rides like the old Colossus. For now the speculation will continue, till we see the station and track work.

 

Exactly. All we've seen so far is video of the coaster itself. We haven't seen anything about the loading station, so quit jumping to conclusions that you're going to be able to ride both tracks in one ride until we see how the loading station is set up.

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LOL!!!!

 

Watch the video again. You can CLEARLY see that the blue side becomes the green side. You DO get to ride both sides in one ride without having to go back to the station. Its a continuous 2-lift track that seems to be confusing the hell out of everyone just because the two lifts are side by side. Setiously people, it doesnt take a genius. This should have been apparent within seconds of the opening of the announcement video, and its seriously baffling how so many people just dont understand a non-issue.

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LOL!!!!

 

Watch the video again. You can CLEARLY see that the blue side becomes the green side. You DO get to ride both sides in one ride without having to go back to the station. Its a continuous 2-lift track that seems to be confusing the hell out of everyone just because the two lifts are side by side. Setiously people, it doesnt take a genius. This should have been apparent within seconds of the opening of the announcement video, and its seriously baffling how so many people just dont understand a non-issue.

 

I asked the same question just after the announcement since the length described confused me that two sides just over 4000ft each would become one ride of 5000ft even with bits cut out of the ride and I think it's understandable that people are confused. I mean i'm probably going to have to eat my words on this since so many people have already poked fun at the people who were unsure but i'd just assumed that the video was just for illustration purposes and had combined them for whatever reason and wasn't 100% accurate. I got it after some-one else explained it but I think its understandable people are confused, not something that is easily apparent within seconds of the video starting.

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LOL!!!!

 

Watch the video again. You can CLEARLY see that the blue side becomes the green side. You DO get to ride both sides in one ride without having to go back to the station. Its a continuous 2-lift track that seems to be confusing the hell out of everyone just because the two lifts are side by side. Setiously people, it doesnt take a genius. This should have been apparent within seconds of the opening of the announcement video, and its seriously baffling how so many people just dont understand a non-issue.

 

I asked the same question just after the announcement since the length described confused me that two sides just over 4000ft each would become one ride of 5000ft even with bits cut out of the ride and I think it's understandable that people are confused. I mean i'm probably going to have to eat my words on this since so many people have already poked fun at the people who were unsure but i'd just assumed that the video was just for illustration purposes and had combined them for whatever reason and wasn't 100% accurate. I got it after some-one else explained it but I think its understandable people are confused, not something that is easily apparent within seconds of the video starting.

 

Fair enough, but wouldnt you think that two separate tracks and two separate roller coasters would be marketed as such, rather than as having "2 lift hills"? That would be such an odd way to market two separate racing roller coasters. Not to mention that at this point the topic has been discussed ad nauseam.

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I think there are two reasons that the ride went from 1 side having 4300 ft of track to both sides having 5000 ft.

 

1. Economics. The ride would be crazy expensive to track and rebuild 8600 ft of track.

 

2. The way that RMC/Ride Centerline altered the first turn around to include the high 5 element would have made it difficult to get the clearance under the track to fit another turnaround under the top set of tracks. Hence the singular lap around the course.

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