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Wow this is unfortunate, good thing everyone is ok. It could have been much worse. Hopefully this is not the end of Ninja, if the park was thinking about removing it, this may be the icing on the cake. Hopefully not though, one of my favorite rides there. The train and chassis do look damaged though...

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^^^ They obviously strapped the train onto the track. The first car needs a lot more attention to strap up because there will be weight and balance issues once they start unloading them. Why make everyone else on the train wait? The rest of the train unloading probably was routine for fire rescue.

 

They obviously should have done that first... not after more than half of the train had already been evacuated.

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They obviously should have done that first... not after more than half of the train had already been evacuated.

 

I get the feeling you're forgetting what park we're dealing with...

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They obviously should have done that first... not after more than half of the train had already been evacuated.

 

I get the feeling you're forgetting what park we're dealing with...

 

Frankly, I wouldn't second guess how the park and the rescue team are handling the evacuation, as there's a lot we don't know yet.

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Did the train derail and then hit a tree, or did it derail because it hit a tree? So far I've been unable to tell.

 

If a tree somehow slumped against the track, that would be a huge problem for the guide wheels and the chassis. But if the chassis broke, the train wouldn't have to wander very far in order to hit a tree. So far it's all sounding like it derailed because of a fallen/slumped tree but can't really get anything definitive.

 

Don't expect the news coverage to provide much. The "COASTERS ARE ALL DEATH TRAPS!!!" machine is on its way if it hasn't already begun.

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Hopefully this is not the end of Ninja, if the park was thinking about removing it, this may be the icing on the cake.

 

I certainly hope its not the end for this ride. I love Ninja and the layout as it swings me throughout the tree line. I can only imagine the line of ambulance chasing lawyers who want a piece of whatever suit is coming down the pipeline.

 

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I'm going to be honest--I saw this happening sooner or later. I love Ninja, but the ride rattled so much, it made me question how tightly the train was positioned on the track. I felt like all the bolts were going to come lose and the ride would derail at some point. Looks like it did.

 

Good news is, no one looks hurt, but I wouldn't be surprised if this is the end of Ninja.

 

I'm going to respond to this.

 

You saw this happening.... how? It appears a tree branch fell on the track which caused this... NOT it falling apart because of loose rattling bolts like you say. What you posted almost sounds like something the typical GP would say.

 

Come on... seriously? The trains have been running the way they were designed to. The ride is "seasoned" so it's going to sound like that. Don't you think if it was going to derail as you claim it would have already? And seriously this could happen to any coaster that has a tree branch fall on it.

 

You did not see this coming, a tree branch (apparently) caused this, it's a random event.

 

Okay, I see your point. I posted this before it was confirmed that a tree fell on the track, so I guess it's just a coincidence that the one ride in the park that felt rattly and loose derailed, regardless of the cause.

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Don't know what stream y'all have been watching, but I'm watching http://ktla.com/2014/07/07/4-injured-on-ninja-roller-coaster-at-magic-mountain-fire-department/ and it looks like it's still going.

Heh, same scenario with this one -- a raw audio feed.

 

"7's gotta be running out of fuel sooner or later..." --channel 5 KTLA

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They obviously should have done that first... not after more than half of the train had already been evacuated.

 

I get the feeling you're forgetting what park we're dealing with...

 

 

You realize its the firemen who are doing this and NOT six flags? So I do not get what you are saying

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Did the train derail and then hit a tree, or did it derail because it hit a tree? So far I've been unable to tell.

 

If a tree somehow slumped against the track, that would be a huge problem for the guide wheels and the chassis. But if the chassis broke, the train wouldn't have to wander very far in order to hit a tree. So far it's all sounding like it derailed because of a fallen/slumped tree but can't really get anything definitive.

 

Don't expect the news coverage to provide much. The "COASTERS ARE ALL DEATH TRAPS!!!" machine is on its way if it hasn't already begun.

 

The news should reassure people that coasters are safe. The accident itself is shocking enough.

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Did the train derail and then hit a tree, or did it derail because it hit a tree? So far I've been unable to tell.

 

If a tree somehow slumped against the track, that would be a huge problem for the guide wheels and the chassis. But if the chassis broke, the train wouldn't have to wander very far in order to hit a tree. So far it's all sounding like it derailed because of a fallen/slumped tree but can't really get anything definitive.

 

Don't expect the news coverage to provide much. The "COASTERS ARE ALL DEATH TRAPS!!!" machine is on its way if it hasn't already begun.

 

The news should reassure people that coasters are safe. The accident itself is shocking enough.

 

That's not how it is in LA news... sensationalism is key!

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I'm going to be honest--I saw this happening sooner or later. I love Ninja, but the ride rattled so much, it made me question how tightly the train was positioned on the track. I felt like all the bolts were going to come lose and the ride would derail at some point. Looks like it did.

 

Good news is, no one looks hurt, but I wouldn't be surprised if this is the end of Ninja.

 

I'm going to respond to this.

 

You saw this happening.... how? It appears a tree branch fell on the track which caused this... NOT it falling apart because of loose rattling bolts like you say. What you posted almost sounds like something the typical GP would say.

 

Come on... seriously? The trains have been running the way they were designed to. The ride is "seasoned" so it's going to sound like that. Don't you think if it was going to derail as you claim it would have already? And seriously this could happen to any coaster that has a tree branch fall on it.

 

You did not see this coming, a tree branch (apparently) caused this, it's a random event.

 

Okay, I see your point. I posted this before it was confirmed that a tree fell on the track, so I guess it's just a coincidence that the one ride in the park that felt rattly and loose derailed, regardless of the cause.

 

There are coasters all over the world that rattle and feel loose... do they derail?

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