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^^It's irrelevant because it doesn't excuse anything. Especially given the fact they struggle to maintain their 19 coasters, so there isn't even enough budget to keep those running at maximum capacity.

 

Which brings it back to my original point, people having unrealistic expectations for SFMM. It's impossible for SFMM to operate like a Cedar Fair, Busch, Disney, Universal company given the circumstances they're under (too many coasters, high state/city tax, bringing in < 3 million guests annually, yada yada). Whether or not the circumstances they're under are self-inflicted or not is moot for the point I'm making. Never was I looking for an "excuse" for the park, I don't own any stake in Six Flags inc

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Tells someone to keep politics out of it. Procedes to add politics. Typical 😄   As for SFMM, they're going to follow what is required by the state... At least on paper. So your sho

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I think people have unrealiatic standards for MM. People don't take into account how high MM's taxes probably are being located in LA county, the costly overhead of operating and maintaining 19 roller coasters, not pulling in the same guest numbers as the other big so cal parks, the cost of insuring rides over 150 feet in earthquake land, being part of a parent company with conservative ways after exiting a bankruptcy etc;

 

No, people get that totally. Here's the deal:

 

-No one forced Six Flags Magic Mountain to buy 19 roller coasters.

 

-No one forced Six Flags Magic Mountain to keep every single roller coaster it has purchased in the last several years.

 

-No one forced Six Flags, post-bankruptcy and now profitability, to keep reducing costs in its parks to increase immediate revenue for investors.

 

I'm not expecting them to fix everything that has gone badly in the course of a couple months. I can't. But I'm not going to excuse them for doing a crappy job because doing a crappy job is easier/more convenient/better pleases people and computer algorithms monitoring stocks for investment purposes. I'm a guy who pays money to go to a theme park and I would prefer it not look run down. Luckily, I have other options.

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I think people have unrealiatic standards for MM. People don't take into account how high MM's taxes probably are being located in LA county, the costly overhead of operating and maintaining 19 roller coasters, not pulling in the same guest numbers as the other big so cal parks, the cost of insuring rides over 150 feet in earthquake land, being part of a parent company with conservative ways after exiting a bankruptcy etc;

 

No, people get that totally. Here's the deal:

 

Apparently not, people are regurgitating the same rhetoric over and over. The park is dirty, there's no theming, the employees don't give a f***, the food sucks, Scream is sitting atop a parking lot, there are no flat rides, yada yada. No doubt everyone is entitled to their opinion, but why complain when you knew what you got yourself into the minute you exited the 5 freeway?

 

Anyhoo, I digress LOL

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There's no doubt SFMM is one of the most polarizing parks in the world. You either love it for what it is or hate it for what it is.

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but why complain when you knew what you got yourself into the minute you exited the 5 freeway?

 

Because it doesn't have to be that way. If you want to be an apologist for the place, that's fine. I have no emotional need to do that myself. But don't act surprised that lots of people in this hobby don't share your view.

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On a completely different note, i went to SFMM 3 weeks ago and saw white wood laying around colossus, scream, and behind Apocalypse.

 

 

It was that day i though for sure that Iron Colossus would happen.

 

 

Anyone know if thats for Colossus or something else???

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^I'm not too familiar with the Flash Pass system at Six Flags parks. It seems more complicated than Cedar Fair's FastLane, so I never really took the time to understand it. Could someone explain to me why a Gold is better than a Platinum?

 

The good flash pass removes 50% of the estimated wait time for the line. Where the regular pass doesn't remove any. Don't forget to queue up your next ride right after you scan in for your current ride. The platinum removes 90 percent. But too pricey in my opinion....

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The platinum removes 90 percent. But too pricey in my opinion....

Plus the consecutive rides, or doesn't SFMM do that?

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On a completely different note, i went to SFMM 3 weeks ago and saw white wood laying around colossus, scream, and behind Apocalypse.

 

 

It was that day i though for sure that Iron Colossus would happen.

 

 

Anyone know if thats for Colossus or something else???

 

I'm curious about this as well, does anyone have info?

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As far as I know there is usually a few piles of whitewashed boards on the infield of Colossus's first turn and the area behind Apocalypse is full of all sorts of random crap, so I wouldn't write it up as proof of anything yet.

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The platinum removes 90 percent. But too pricey in my opinion....

Plus the consecutive rides, or doesn't SFMM do that?

 

They do that, just not in the front or back rows. We got it when we went to Magic Mountain last year and had a blast.

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The platinum removes 90 percent. But too pricey in my opinion....

Plus the consecutive rides, or doesn't SFMM do that?

 

I've gotten platinum FP's at parks a few times, but I just can't bring myself to to use the ride-twice feature. I can't help but feeling like a tool anytime I do.

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but why complain when you knew what you got yourself into the minute you exited the 5 freeway?

 

Because it doesn't have to be that way. If you want to be an apologist for the place, that's fine. I have no emotional need to do that myself. But don't act surprised that lots of people in this hobby don't share your view.

THIS. Exactly this. I visit lots of parks every year. Probably in the neighborhood of 50 to 100 parks depending on our annual schedule. One consistency in our annual park travels is that I have visited SFMM EVERY SINGLE YEAR since 1976. SFMM used to come up towards the top of my list of major parks I visit. Now it comes towards the bottom.

 

I "get" that there is a local enthusiasm for the park. And I "get" that people who haven't traveled as much as either Joey or I probably can't relate to our complaints.

 

Take it for what it's worth. And no, I don't "hate" the park. And I would like to see it back in my top of parks instead of that lower third. I'm not "waxing nostalgic" I'm simply saying it's just doesn't stack up in the guest service department to many other parks we visit annually. And like others have said, it's up to the park to make those improvements, or not.

 

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No, people get that totally. Here's the deal:

 

-No one forced Six Flags Magic Mountain to buy 19 roller coasters.

 

-No one forced Six Flags Magic Mountain to keep every single roller coaster it has purchased in the last several years.

 

Just for accuracy, SFMM declined to keep both DejaVu & Psyclone.

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As far as I know there is usually a few piles of whitewashed boards on the infield of Colossus's first turn and the area behind Apocalypse is full of all sorts of random crap, so I wouldn't write it up as proof of anything yet.

 

Correct. They have carpenters who are continually doing upkeep on the ride.

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Being the highest earning Park in the chain for the third year in a row should mean something to them. It's a good accomplishment that should reflect itself in terms of upkeep, maintenance, service and attractions. I really wish Six Flags would take more pride in the park. Fanatically it's come such a long way since 2006. This should be the most kick ass park in the chain.

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^I'm not too familiar with the Flash Pass system at Six Flags parks. It seems more complicated than Cedar Fair's FastLane, so I never really took the time to understand it. Could someone explain to me why a Gold is better than a Platinum?

Well here's the deal. They way it's advertised is that the regular gives you the same wait as the standby line except you don't have to do your waiting in line, the gold reduces the wait by 50%, the platinum reduces the wait by 90% and gives you the option to remain in your seat after your first lap and take a second ride (on some rides, not all).

 

In reality, both the gold and the platinum give you roughly 90% off of the wait time. I always get the gold and in my experience almost every ride is 5-10 min wait. The only ones that are usually a long ~45min wait are the water rides in summer.

 

With the wait time being mostly equal, the only real advantages to the platinum are the ability to purchase reservations for YOLOCoaster for $15 and the double ride, and for me the double ride loses it's appeal when you have to remain in the same seat. If I'm going to double ride I'd want to do front and back row which you aren't allowed to do. So the gold in my opinion is the best deal.

 

It's not complicated to use at all, in fact I like the Flash Pass a lot more than the Fast Lane. You get a little digital pager-type thing where you can scroll through the list of rides and it tells you what time your ride will be ready for each. When you select one it starts waiting until the posted time and then it flashes and vibrates to let you know your ride is ready. When you walk up to the flash pass entrance an employee near the station will have a device that reads yours and resets it; as soon as they read your device you can reserve your next ride. Most people will reserve their next ride while still in the station for the first one and it will be ready by the time you get off the ride. Flash Pass lines also most often tend to merge with the regular line much closer to loading than Fast Lane.

 

Oh one big heads up - I found out the hard way if you go during fright fest they put the mazes on the flash pass device. If you're there for the mazes that's cool, but I think there's a limit to the number of possible attractions on the flash pass because during fright fest a good chunk of coasters that normally support flash pass wont be on the list.

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I'm looking forward to Collossus becoming Iron Collossus via the RMC treatment. With Collossus closing in August it's all but confirmed. I could bet $$ on it. We just have to wait for the official announcement in late August or early September. I have a feeling that this has been in the works for several years. Now the question is will it be a dual track racer or will the ride go around the track twice? I doubt they will preserve one side as is with simply topper track. I can't wait to see what they do with this colossal structure! There's so much potential.

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I for one feel like they will just keep one wood and one a hybrid. I don't see why not. That would be a worlds first wood vs steel racing/dueling. No matter what is done though it will great assuming RMC is the manufacturer

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