FaithPlus1 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Look at their last three coaster additions. Sad....just sad. I guess they're just trying to appeal to their clientele. Seems to be profitable. Build gimmicky and kid coaster, claim dumb records such as largest loop on Yolo, and ignore flats. I hope other parks don't follow their lead. I'd give them credit if they convert Colossus into one large coaster with the RM treatment. Lets see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBrylczyk Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 I hope other parks don't follow their lead. Â Magic Mountain is in a tier all their own. Trust me, nobody looks at them for advice on how to operate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaithPlus1 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 ^just think they could be great. I don't care about profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeoplemoverMatt Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 The new stuff at Hurricane Harbor this year will draw more people than this will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someotherguyuser Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Speedy Gonzalez Hot Rod Racers announcement. My response: Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.J. Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 ^just think they could be great. I don't care about profit. They do. They're a business first and foremost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SingleRiderCam Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 ^^Maybe the people who want the name of their next credit care instead of getting the coaster name Unknown to be found at Six Flags Magic Mountain according to RCDB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmaster562 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 I'd like to remind everyone that it had been announced that a new kiddie coaster was on the way a long while ago, this is just the official announcement of what the park is getting, so its not like the fact that they're getting another awful kiddie coaster is brand new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WFChris Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 We should also remember that with this addition, they are claiming the 'world record' for most kiddie coasters in a park. In a way, I find it very appropriate considering what SFMM offers. It makes sense...I just wish it was more of a 'middle ground' coaster like Ninja or Gold Rusher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garet Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 When I saw the news of a speedy coaster I was hoping for slightly creepy mexican mouse trains like seoul land's  Images taken from RCDB   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alilstronger Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 We should also remember that with this addition, they are claiming the 'world record' for most kiddie coasters in a park. In a way, I find it very appropriate considering what SFMM offers. It makes sense...I just wish it was more of a 'middle ground' coaster like Ninja or Gold Rusher. Â I agree. I do not think they need another coaster so small. They need some more in the middle coasters. A custom mouse would be great there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCXfreak Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 I really wish MM would and flat's to the line up. I think they needs to take the Colossus County Fair area and make it like a Fair. Remove Johnny Rockets and some of the Games, just revamp that whole area. Love to see some classic carnival ride's like Zipper, Falling Star and maybe bring back Z-Force. MM let's not always be coaster bound, mix it up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyboy13 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 God, I would love to see a permanent installation of a Zipper. Maybe an old school Enterprise too? MM REALLY needs a dark ride as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeromyL Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 ^^^ I miss the old enterprise ride MM had. Falling stars are fun. And yes. Z-force is missed too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jew Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 As someone who spent time working some of the flats at SFMM (Spin Out, Gearworks, Atom Smasher)…I can tell you no one cares about flat rides at SFMM. I rarely saw more than a 2 or 3 cycle wait for any of those rides. Only Sandblasters got long lines, if you consider bumper cars a flat ride. Tim Burkhart was right when he said they are hard to market and get ROI on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alilstronger Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 ^ If amusement parks put unique flats and not ones like himalaya, music express, tilt a whirl, scrambler, wipe out, tornado, etc than more people would ride them. I do not always ride the common flats unless there is something about them that stands out. You can ride all of the standard flats at local carnivals. There are exceptions to this rule like almost all flats at Knoebels or many at Indiana Beach. Â Parks, especially big parks like a Six Flags or Cedar Fair, should invest in unique flats. They should see what other countries are offering and see if there is possibility to bring these rides to the states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeromyL Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 La rev at Knotts always has a line. And it processes pretty quick. I would say alilstronger is correct. Unique flats still attract lines. I remember the very long lines with Z-force years ago at MM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJeXeL Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Rev takes a while to load which is why it has a line. Tall/larger riders are constantly having to be juggled around to different seats to get the restraint monitoring system to clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alilstronger Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 La rev at Knotts always has a line. And it processes pretty quick. I would say alilstronger is correct. Unique flats still attract lines. I remember the very long lines with Z-force years ago at MM Â Thank you for agreeing. Â When I was at Canada's Wonderland Sledgehammer had a really long line. Now I know that is a ride that is down a lot but the queue stayed full all day and it did not go down the whole time I was there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singemfrc Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 ^ If amusement parks put unique flats and not ones like himalaya, music express, tilt a whirl, scrambler, wipe out, tornado, etc than more people would ride them. I do not always ride the common flats unless there is something about them that stands out. You can ride all of the standard flats at local carnivals. There are exceptions to this rule like almost all flats at Knoebels or many at Indiana Beach. Â Parks, especially big parks like a Six Flags or Cedar Fair, should invest in unique flats. They should see what other countries are offering and see if there is possibility to bring these rides to the states. Agree. With the flats that SFMM has it's no wonder no one cares about them, they're everywhere. When I was at Cedar Point last summer there was considerable interest in MaxxAir which had a pretty long line (and apprently does so regularly enough to warrant a FastLane queue), and while I was standing near the non-operating Skyhawk there was a steady stream of people walking up, finding out it was down, and making disappointed remarks about wishing it was open. I was pretty disappointed myself that it was down, I would have loved to have ridden that one. Â If SFMM would get some unique or even unusual flats I would think they could do pretty well with them, but when it comes to flats its like they either have no imagination or no faith, or both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alilstronger Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 ^ When I was at CP this past summer Skyhawk was open and had a pretty much full queue all 3 days I was there. I was so glad it was part of Fast Lane. MaxxAir had long lines all 3 days too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeromyL Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Think about it. Every flat they have I think has been there at least since the early eighties. The last new one besides the up charge one was z-force. That was late eighties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark549 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 ^ When I was at CP this past summer Skyhawk was open and had a pretty much full queue all 3 days I was there. I was so glad it was part of Fast Lane. MaxxAir had long lines all 3 days too. Â Skyhawk and Maxair have better airtime than the coasters at SFMM. (I haven't been there since FT was built.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyWD98 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Skyhawk and Maxair have better airtime than the coasters at SFMM. (I haven't been there since FT was built.) Sad but true^ Â Hopefully the rumored Iron Colossus gets built into an airtime machine. I'd rather it not have any added inversions since SFMM has more than enough coasters that go upside down.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 GP loves flipply flips and not boring hills. XTREMEEE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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