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Seriously, you guys are expecting too much. It's just going to be like YOLOcoaster's announcement yet again: disappointment.

 

You have to construct your expectations with the full realization of the park that's going to be fulfilling them. Full Throttle is exactly the kind of ride SFMM would want to build, and later operate and maintain on their budget along with all the other rides that they have.

 

That's one of the reasons why I think these hopes for an "Iron Colossus" of sorts are little far-fetched, at least for now.

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Yeah I'm not sure we'll see a dueling coaster with different elements. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only dueling coaster that Six Flags has installed that features different ride experiences was Batman & Robin: The Chiller. And even then, the most distinct difference was the first part of the ride. The 2nd half was the same. But I think you are right about MAgic Mountain wanting to install their 20th coaster fast...but honestly is it weird to say to lay off the coasters for a bit(unless its the colossus conversion) and install some good thrilling flat rides!!! (S&S Screamin' Swing please)

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^^That is what I have been thinking. In fact, it would not surprise me too much if the park just decided to add new trains, then then modify only one part of the ride to add an inversion.

 

Still, even if they only decided to do a full RMC of just one side, it would still be the one of the best things to happen to the park in the last ten years. This may be the first opportunity in a while for a park to build an exceptional coaster, as the last large-scale attraction built at the park was Tatsu in 2006. Anything added after that was either just a modification to an existing ride, or an attraction that could be easily be found at a medium sized park.

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^ I'm not saying FullThrottle is bad or anything as I haven't even ridden it but I find it funny how they managed to make it sound like something massive (which even broke a record) while, in reality, it was a pretty small investment for an adult coaster. Honestly, I don't really see them doing one side and leaving the other one untouched. Maybe they could do one with I box and the other with topper track but just one would be rather ridiculous, to me.

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As far as Iron Colossus goes, I've always thought SFMM needs to go all out or not do it at all. While it may not be that popular of a ride anymore, Colossus is still one of the most famous coasters in the park and a poorly done refurbishment could potentially do a lot of damage. I do think the potential for something as depicted in the video is there simply because SFMM could promote it as a record breaking ride, but if Iron Colossus is indeed expected to be a 2015 attraction the ride would need to close before this summer in order to have any shot at being ready for next summer.

 

As for the idea of converting one track and leaving the other alone, I'm willing to bet that wouldn't happen. I could see making the ride only a single track, but I don't think the structure would be capable of supporting two significantly different tracks without heavy modification. I do think this would be bad for the ride's image, however, as it is known as a racing coaster (although it never races anymore).

 

It is too early to know what is going to happen, but given the way Six Flags is going now and the stated desire of SFMM for a RMC woodie I do think some form of Iron Colossus will appear in the next few years, though what it will be and how soon I have no idea.

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Seriously, you guys are expecting too much. It's just going to be like YOLOcoaster's announcement yet again: disappointment.

 

You have to construct your expectations with the full realization of the park that's going to be fulfilling them. YOLOcoaster is exactly the kind of ride SFMM would want to build, and later operate and maintain on their budget along with all the other rides that they have.

 

That's one of the reasons why I think these hopes for an "Iron Colossus" of sorts are little far-fetched, at least for now.

 

Hasn't it been known for a while that Colossus has been a target for SF corprate to get the RMC treatment? So I would say the chances of it happening are high

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I have never ridden Colossus, nor been to SFMM, so I can't state my opinion on Colossus, but I would honestly rather see SFMM get more rides and a coaster than having Colossus get RMC treatment. Even though Colossus isn't a spectacular coaster (just from what I heard), people are going to keep riding it, iron horse treatment or no iron horse treatment. I think it could wait.

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I have never ridden Colossus, nor been to SFMM, so I can't state my opinion on Colossus, but I would honestly rather see SFMM get more rides and a coaster than having Colossus get RMC treatment. Even though Colossus isn't a spectacular coaster (just from what I heard), people are going to keep riding it, iron horse treatment or no iron horse treatment. I think it could wait.

 

If SFMM converted Colossus, it would be quite an attention grabber considering it would be a major ride to the park ranking up with its top coasters. As well, Its a pretty classic coaster and it would probably be a big deal if it was overhauled in such a way.

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^Of course it would grab attention, lol! What I'm saying is that Colossus is not not getting attention so I think it's fine.

 

I've been reading this and I have to jump in on this. I've been to Magic Mountain and I disagree. Colossus feels like it's not getting attention. The ride was good, but there was no line, and only one side was operating, while we waited over an hour for other rides. That whole section of the park feels cut-off and unloved, and converting Colossus to I-Box would draw more people to that area of the park and liven it to to feel new again.

 

I think it's a bit bold to state that a ride is or isn't getting enough attention, especially by someone who has never been to the park.

 

I prefer quality over quantity. A new coaster may be new and shiny, but Colossus and Scream feel like they're getting left behind. I, along with many other enthusiasts, I'm sure, would like to see Magic Mountain invest in bettering itself before adding more attractions.

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Colossus has been a target for SF corprate to get the RMC treatment?

Well no because its simply speculation and rumor.

That's exactly how I treat Iron Colossus its rumor and nothing more. It's all based on speculation and assumption. Until there's evidence or confirmation' date=' iron Colossus is simply speculation and rumor.[/quote']

During the 2011 and 2012 WCB Q&A, SFMM management was extremely enthusiastic about the work that was done on Texas Giant. Nothing's certain until there's an announcement, but it's a realistic possibility.

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I think it's a bit bold to state that a ride is or isn't getting enough attention, especially by someone who has never been to the park.

 

I prefer quality over quantity. A new coaster may be new and shiny, but Colossus and Scream feel like they're getting left behind. I, along with many other enthusiasts, I'm sure, would like to see Magic Mountain invest in bettering itself before adding more attractions.

 

First & foremost, if you prefer quality over quantity, you're probably following the wrong park.

 

Secondly, if Colossus was being left behind, it wouldn't be standing much less operating today. That ride has tried to tear itself apart since the day it began operation. What it hasn't done to itself, weathering and earthquakes have done for it. It's a miracle that ride is still standing and operating today. The park does what it needs to do in order to keep at least one side running, but not much else. There isn't much else they can do considering the structure is going on 36 years old now.

 

By comparison, Texas Giant was only 19 years old when RMC converted it. Rattler was 20 years old. Medusa was 13 years old. Do we know RMC can take a 36 year old structure heavily worn by its own racing layout, weathering, and earthquakes and covert it? If it can't, there's no reason to speculate on when or if "Iron Colossus" will ever exist.

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Update from January 25 and 26:

X2 - On Saturday, did not open until around 11:30am, they were trying to test the ride since park opening at 10:30 but were having unexpected issues. On Sunday, was open about 10 minutes after park opening, it appeared they started testing a bit late; however, later in the day the line was about a 10 minute wait.

Batman - was running one train, the other train had been removed from the track entirely, I assume to retrofit for a backwards run.

Colossus - maintenance was working on the underside of the backwards running trains (old Psyclone trains) in preparation for backwards run.

Goliath - it appears they have reprogrammed the restraint locking mechanisms so they are locked as they are checked (per car) due to the new seatbelts. This significantly increased loading time.

New Kiddie Coaster - a footing has been poured for support columns where the big tree has been removed.

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Goliath - it appears they have reprogrammed the restraint locking mechanisms so they are locked as they are checked (per car) due to the new seatbelts. This significantly increased loading time.

 

 

There is hope for the universe... Hopefully Full Throttle gets this as well.

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Goliath - it appears they have reprogrammed the restraint locking mechanisms so they are locked as they are checked (per car) due to the new seatbelts. This significantly increased loading time.

 

Facepalm. The panel operator has the option to lock/unlock each car manually or lock/unlock all restraints. The reason of doing it a car at a time is to ensure the attendants can check the seatbelts before guests pull down the lapbars.

 

What slows down dispatches the most are guests that don't listen to the spiels. Between the people that are reluctant to put their bags to the side of the train and those that don't buckle their seatbelt are the greatest influence of the slower dispatches.

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