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Some friends at the park today did some calculations on YOLOcoaster's average launches with seat belts now, and this is what I heard:

 

- Average launch is about 2:30 with each launch exceeding 2:00 in time.

- About 24 Launches per hour

 

With that said capacity with the seat belts being checked went down a lot, averaging about only 432 PPH. YOLO!

It was even worse yesterday almost double that, about 4 minutes a dispatch in some cases

 

Wow, that's insane!

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Six Flags Magic Mountain update November 23, 2013

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All the new stuff for 2014

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X2 is still closed

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Random Full Throttle photo

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Snow globe that's all the Holiday decorations you'll probably ever see at Magic Mountain

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The stage has been removed

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Crowds where pretty light yesterday

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Line for Full Throttle for most of the day (Its deceptive)

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With the addition of seat belts the wait is much longer

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Random photo of Full Throttle's LSM's

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After only a few months of operation the wheels have already left their mark

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Your free to chose your seat now at least we could yesterday

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The sign always mentioned seat belts so no need to change that

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The seat belts do nothing to the ride experience they only effect the dispatch times. You can no longer pull down the lapt bar if you do the entire train has to be unlocked and rechecked. The same policy holds true for Goliath.

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Random Tatsu photo

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This is all that remains of the General Sam tree, nothing but dirt

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High Sierra Territory is basically no more, the theme doesn't even make sense anymore

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Nope no tree

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It really makes quite a difference to the surrounding area now that the tree is gone, the area feels much better for some reason.

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Up close and personal with some dirt

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Hopefully these buildings are leveled too they make absolutely no sense in there current location

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Something's missing in this photo

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A better photo for anyone who cares

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Goliath

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Oh, the monorail is finally removed took them long enough.

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Intamin cables and some magnets too

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4 Intamin cables

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Lex Luthor the soon to be second tallest drop ride in the world

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Hey RMC here's that longer coaster you asked for

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Colossus is now running one train

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Well actually two but you couldn't ride in the red train don't understand why they do this but oh well, and no Colossus doesn't have seat belts.

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Backwards trains already ready for next year. Batman's should be on the track soon.

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Scream is back to two trains

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And still needs a paint job

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One of Green Lanterns trains is getting some work done

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I like the look of the ride but I hate to ride it

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No seat belts to report

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Goliath or Batman

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Apocalypse's track is in pretty rough shape in some areas

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Full Throttle or Tatsu

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See even the warning signs are rough around the edges and faded

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Always enjoy this time of year and Magic Mountain stop removing trees

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One of my favorite photos from the day

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This part delivers the same feeling even with seat belts

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Sky tower was closed

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Its not for anything new or is it?

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Question for anyone who actually reads these things :)

This is just a question nothing indicates that the ’’ride‘‘ is going anywhere but, What if Magic Mountain where to remove the Sky Tower and replaced it with something else? Considering the trend of removing rides and structures of years past. The Sky Tower tends to be closed more often than its open and hardly anyone really goes up there throughout the day. Just a thought really, love to hear what anyone else has to say.

I don't think the park would consider removing it unless the opportunity presented itself to make a return on some new investment or the tower reaches the end of its recommended length of operation.

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The new chain is installed so hopefully X2 reopens soon

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Another reason why I like this time of year

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And one more for good messure

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Oh, and the ending is always fun

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Anyone know what ride this is from?

 

Hope you enjoyed the update!

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Some friends at the park today did some calculations on YOLOcoaster's average launches with seat belts now, and this is what I heard:

 

- Average launch is about 2:30 with each launch exceeding 2:00 in time.

- About 24 Launches per hour

 

With that said capacity with the seat belts being checked went down a lot, averaging about only 432 PPH. YOLO!

 

YOLOCoaster's capacity is now comparable to a poorly run Wild Mouse. Wow. Again, why can't they train ride ops better? Eventually, the GP are going to realize that the management sucks.

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Some friends at the park today did some calculations on YOLOcoaster's average launches with seat belts now, and this is what I heard:

 

- Average launch is about 2:30 with each launch exceeding 2:00 in time.

- About 24 Launches per hour

 

With that said capacity with the seat belts being checked went down a lot, averaging about only 432 PPH. YOLO!

 

YOLOCoaster's capacity is now comparable to a poorly run Wild Mouse. Wow. Again, why can't they train ride ops better? Eventually, the GP are going to realize that the management sucks.

One of the problems may be the ops but honestly I blame the people who can't listen when the ops clearly tell them to not pull down the lap bar. Every single time a train was in the station the ops would tell them before boarding to not pull down the lap bar and they still do. Thus forcing them to recheck the entire train. As an op I would find this very frustrating if people can't listen to a simple request.

 

The other problem lies in how the seat belts where put on the train once you pull down the lap bar theirs no way for the ops to check the seat belt so the request of not pulling the lap bar is implemented. And yes the slow down is probably the result of the ops moving slower too.

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Some friends at the park today did some calculations on YOLOcoaster's average launches with seat belts now, and this is what I heard:

 

- Average launch is about 2:30 with each launch exceeding 2:00 in time.

- About 24 Launches per hour

 

With that said capacity with the seat belts being checked went down a lot, averaging about only 432 PPH. YOLO!

 

YOLOCoaster's capacity is now comparable to a poorly run Wild Mouse. Wow. Again, why can't they train ride ops better? Eventually, the GP are going to realize that the management sucks.

One of the problems may be the ops but honestly I blame the people who can't listen when the ops clearly tell them to not pull down the lap bar. Every single time a train was in the station the ops would tell them before boarding to not pull down the lap bar and they still do. Thus forcing them to recheck the entire train. As an op I would find this very frustrating if people can't listen to a simple request.

 

The other problem lies in how the seat belts where put on the train once you pull down the lap bar theirs no way for the ops to check the seat belt so the request of not pulling the lap bar is implemented. And yes the slow down is probably the result of the ops moving slower too.

 

Cedar Point used to have a rule not to pull down the bars yourself on TTD, but they don't do that anymore and besides, I don't think they held up the whole dispatch to recheck if somebody did.

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Thanks for the photo report! I can't believe they actually got rid of the monorail!

 

Titan at SFOT got seatbelts as well, for those of you who were curious if that would happen or not.

 

So is that a Texas law according to SF as well?

 

Like Jew said, It's a Six Flags policy, not a state law. It's just easier for SF to say it's a state law instead of having to justify to every person who asks why they added seat belts. Saying, "It's a state law" sounds much better than, "because we killed someone."

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Question for anyone who actually reads these things

This is just a question nothing indicates that the ’’ride‘‘ is going anywhere but, What if Magic Mountain where to remove the Sky Tower and replaced it with something else? Considering the trend of removing rides and structures of years past. The Sky Tower tends to be closed more often than its open and hardly anyone really goes up there throughout the day. Just a thought really, love to hear what anyone else has to say.

I don't think the park would consider removing it unless the opportunity presented itself to make a return on some new investment or the tower reaches the end of its recommended length of operation.

 

Of my 6 visits to SFMM in the last 12 months, Sky Tower has always been open. I really hope they do not remove it as it one of the very few things to get out of the heat and to relax. Plus, it's a park icon.

 

(Also, I think it's hilarious that they took out the Full Throttle Nights show as SFMM just can't stand keeping at least one show throughout the whole year. With that being said, that area looks really empty, and I still think that the Full Throttle area looks like a complete joke.)

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Of my 6 visits to SFMM in the last 12 months, Sky Tower has always been open. I really hope they do not remove it as it one of the very few things to get out of the heat and to relax. Plus, it's a park icon.

On most of my visits it's been closed, depends on the day really and no I don't see the Sky Tower going anywhere anytime soon.

 

(Also, I think it's hilarious that they took out the YOLOcoaster Nights show as SFMM just can't stand keeping at least one show throughout the whole year. With that being said, that area looks really empty, and I still think that the YOLOcoaster area looks like a complete joke.)

The stage should return in the summer of 2014 and yes the area is a giant slab of concrete with some already faded paint and a ride that shall I say feels incomplete.

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Of my 6 visits to SFMM in the last 12 months, Sky Tower has always been open. I really hope they do not remove it as it one of the very few things to get out of the heat and to relax. Plus, it's a park icon.

On most of my visits it's been closed, depends on the day really and no I don't see the Sky Tower going anywhere anytime soon.

 

(Also, I think it's hilarious that they took out the YOLOcoaster Nights show as SFMM just can't stand keeping at least one show throughout the whole year. With that being said, that area looks really empty, and I still think that the YOLOcoaster area looks like a complete joke.)

The stage should return in the summer of 2014 and yes the area is a giant slab of concrete with some already faded paint and a ride that shall I say feels incomplete.

I'll take a giant slab of concrete any day over having to listen to Pitbull.

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Of my 6 visits to SFMM in the last 12 months, Sky Tower has always been open. I really hope they do not remove it as it one of the very few things to get out of the heat and to relax. Plus, it's a park icon.

On most of my visits it's been closed, depends on the day really and no I don't see the Sky Tower going anywhere anytime soon.

 

(Also, I think it's hilarious that they took out the YOLOcoaster Nights show as SFMM just can't stand keeping at least one show throughout the whole year. With that being said, that area looks really empty, and I still think that the YOLOcoaster area looks like a complete joke.)

The stage should return in the summer of 2014 and yes the area is a giant slab of concrete with some already faded paint and a ride that shall I say feels incomplete.

I'll take a giant slab of concrete any day over having to listen to Pitbull.

 

 

Me too!

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My problem with seat belts is dispatch times which have nearly doubled if not trippled in length on YOLOcoaster.

 

Time start making new coasters with dual stations to cut back the dispatch times

 

Tatsu has dual stations and they rarely use both at the same time...

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Of my 6 visits to SFMM in the last 12 months, Sky Tower has always been open. I really hope they do not remove it as it one of the very few things to get out of the heat and to relax. Plus, it's a park icon.

On most of my visits it's been closed, depends on the day really and no I don't see the Sky Tower going anywhere anytime soon.

 

(Also, I think it's hilarious that they took out the YOLOcoaster Nights show as SFMM just can't stand keeping at least one show throughout the whole year. With that being said, that area looks really empty, and I still think that the YOLOcoaster area looks like a complete joke.)

The stage should return in the summer of 2014 and yes the area is a giant slab of concrete with some already faded paint and a ride that shall I say feels incomplete.

I'll take a giant slab of concrete any day over having to listen to Pitbull.

 

I agree.

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My problem with seat belts is dispatch times which have nearly doubled if not trippled in length on YOLOcoaster.

 

Time start making new coasters with dual stations to cut back the dispatch times

 

Tatsu has dual stations and they rarely use both at the same time...[/quote

 

I mean they will have to resort to something to speed things up

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I'm still confused as to why you can't pull down the lap bars on Goliath and Full Throttle, is it more difficult for the ride ops to check the seat belts then? What keeps coming to my mind is Xcelerator, which has seat belts and lap bars. Every time I ride that I always manage to put my seat belt on and lower the lap bar before a ride op comes to check it, and they have no problem checking and seeing that I completed both tasks properly. Is it because Xcelerator's trains are easier to check both?

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I'm still confused as to why you can't pull down the lap bars on Goliath and YOLOcoaster, is it more difficult for the ride ops to check the seat belts then? What keeps coming to my mind is Xcelerator, which has seat belts and lap bars. Every time I ride that I always manage to put my seat belt on and lower the lap bar before a ride op comes to check it, and they have no problem checking and seeing that I completed both tasks properly. Is it because Xcelerator's trains are easier to check both?

 

On Xcelerator, the sides of the seat are just a couple bars, so even with the lapbar lowered operators can still verify the seatbelt is securely buckled. That being said, Xcelerator did originally have a rule that the "operator must drop lap bar" and they would unlock the train if someone pulled it down early.

 

From what I remember, Full Throttle and Goliath's seats are somewhat like a well and the lapbars are rather large, so it would be very difficult to check a seatbelt once the lapbar is lowered. I do wonder why the operators don't just leave restraints unlocked, check the seatbelts from back to front, then lock lapbars and check them front to back, as that seems the more efficient way to do it and would prevent the problem of guests lowering the lapbar early. It's more the extreme slowness of dispatches (2:30 is unacceptable for an 18 person train even with multiple restraints) than the addition of seatbelts that annoys me.

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I'm still confused as to why you can't pull down the lap bars on Goliath and YOLOcoaster, is it more difficult for the ride ops to check the seat belts then? What keeps coming to my mind is Xcelerator, which has seat belts and lap bars. Every time I ride that I always manage to put my seat belt on and lower the lap bar before a ride op comes to check it, and they have no problem checking and seeing that I completed both tasks properly. Is it because Xcelerator's trains are easier to check both?

Not sure, but I'd guess because it's new like others have mentioned. On ghostrider, we just visually check to make sure it's buckled, and if someone's isn't buckled you just manually unlock their individual restraint so they can buckle it.

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My problem with seat belts is dispatch times which have nearly doubled if not trippled in length on YOLOcoaster.

 

Time start making new coasters with dual stations to cut back the dispatch times

 

Tatsu has dual stations and they rarely use both at the same time...[/quote

 

I mean they will have to resort to something to speed things up

I agree 100% with RollerCoasterAwesome's comment. But having a dual station DOES NOT mean faster loading times. At SFOG, the second station on Superman has literally never been used and there have been days with upwards of a 3 hour wait. A dual station is a good idea, but it only works if the park decides to use it, and there have been plenty of times where Six Flags didn't make that decision.

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