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Other concern...saying that this is a Six Flags policy (or if it was actually state wide) would be the Six Flags-owned Premier Launchers (YOLO, SUF). SUF has amazing dispatches because of its minimalist approach. First off, lockers are enforced and it's just a matter of sit, pull down bar, check, dispatch. I can see it double its dispatch times (or perhaps match YOLO's current dispatch times which are considerably slower than SUF). If YOLO got them, the already slower dispatch times would be even slower yet. Since SFMM does not quite enforce lockers, and the Skyrocket style trains are actually quite difficult to pass through let alone putting goods in the bins.

 

Also agreed about our other gem up here, being Giant Dipper. It's been fine all these years, there's no reason to make changes now. I have a feeling it will not be altered but only time will really tell.

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Other concern...saying that this is a Six Flags policy (or if it was actually state wide) would be the Six Flags-owned Premier Launchers (YOLO, SUF). SUF has amazing dispatches because of its minimalist approach. First off, fluffy, fluffy bunnies filled with medicine and goo are enforced and it's just a matter of sit, pull down bar, check, dispatch. I can see it double its dispatch times (or perhaps match YOLO's current dispatch times which are considerably slower than SUF). If YOLO got them, the already slower dispatch times would be even slower yet. Since SFMM does not quite enforce fluffy, fluffy bunnies filled with medicine and goo, and the Skyrocket style trains are actually quite difficult to pass through let alone putting goods in the bins.

 

Also agreed about our other gem up here, being Giant Dipper. It's been fine all these years, there's no reason to make changes now. I have a feeling it will not be altered but only time will really tell.

Perhaps (or should I say hopefully) it depends on the type of restraint..perhaps the newer Premier cars will get a pass because of how much more comprehensive their restraints are compared to traditional lap bars. Those new cars have such tight restraints a seat belt might actually be uncomfortable.

 

Ironically with the old restraints that Goliath used to have I actually did think seat belts would have been good (and I had a friend who was very nearly ejected from Goliath many years ago with the old ones - restraint failed and he had to hold on) but the new lap bars put in a few years ago are much better..stupid that now that it has better restraints the seat belt has to be added.

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Hmmm...it'll be interesting to see if Disneyland's coasters (Space, Big Thunder) get seatbelts or not...something tells me this may be Six Flags policy because of the Texas Giant accident and they're trying to say it's a state mandate. Much like how Revolution "had" to have OTSRs because it was "California law" for looping coasters.

 

I thought that too, but 3 ops saying it's a CA law and knowing how reliable ride ops are I asked a different ride sup if it was a new Six Flags policy and she said unfortunately it's a CA policy so I would expect them on Disney rides as well as Manta at Sea World, the rides at Discovery Kingdom and the small parks. Well see though but it wouldnt surprise me considering how crazy CA is.

 

It's not California law. The end. Please do some research on California Assembly Bill 850. That's the ONLY law that governs amusement rides in California.

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Hmmm...it'll be interesting to see if Disneyland's coasters (Space, Big Thunder) get seatbelts or not...something tells me this may be Six Flags policy because of the Texas Giant accident and they're trying to say it's a state mandate. Much like how Revolution "had" to have OTSRs because it was "California law" for looping coasters.

 

I thought that too, but 3 ops saying it's a CA law and knowing how reliable ride ops are I asked a different ride sup if it was a new Six Flags policy and she said unfortunately it's a CA policy so I would expect them on Disney rides as well as Manta at Sea World, the rides at Discovery Kingdom and the small parks. Well see though but it wouldnt surprise me considering how crazy CA is.

 

It's not California law. The end. Please do some research on California Assembly Bill 850. That's the ONLY law that governs amusement rides in California.

 

I hope your right, but being told the same thing by 3 different ops and a supervisor (all from different rides mind you) makes it somewhat convincing. I tried finding it online and I too couldn't find anything. Only other thing I could think is maybe the employees were told not to say it's a six flags policy and to say it's a CA policy? Well find out soon enough and see if CA parks add them or if different Six Flags parks out of CA add them that way we know for sure what is true.

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Being as this came from SFMM ride ops, I'm taking this with a grain of salt. Though they'd know more than the Dip n Dots guy, I would be only *slightly* convinced. I tried looking things up last night but found nothing. In the end, we may be worrying ourselves over what could only be just a couple of rides getting seat belts. The words from the ride ops can also very well be something completely misinterpreted (classic game of Telephone scenario).

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I think it's nothing more than a reactive move by SF due to the NTAG incident.

 

Exactly!!!

 

DING DING! I don't care what ride op, manager, or CEO says. Until the State actually has put something out stating there is a new law, I will believe the company is using it as an excuse to mandate changes on rides.

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I hope your right, but being told the same thing by 3 different ops and a supervisor (all from different rides mind you) makes it somewhat convincing.

 

That's 3 different ride ops and a supervisor who don't know what they are talking about. The end.

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Does Goliath have the same lap bars as New Texas Giant? I would wager they're similar, so they're doing their best to make sure what happened with NTG doesn't happen on Goliath.

 

Yeah it sucks capacity wise. There's ways to avoid the capacity problems, for example retractable belts and "clear/secure" lights on the side of the train so you know when they're locked, but Six Flags doesn't think about capacity, they get what's cheap. Thus bringing down quality instead of creating a pleasant safety improvement.

 

Pretty sad if you ask me!

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^ I used to like Goliath ... A LOT. Then I traveled outside of CA and rode some actual good coasters.

 

Hahaha I traveled to CA thinking the same and while it was a nice visit I prefer riding good coasters without the SFMM pillage of my money.

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