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I don't have any question that SFMM will get #20 in a few years. I'm actually waiting for that to happen so then maybe they'll STOP putting in coasters every year and turn their attention to other things like Revolution and Colossus and maybe somewhere down the road, new trains for Gold Rusher.

 

Spent a few hours in the park with some WCB peeps today. It was on ok day, mostly due to the company. Rode Apocalypse, that thing is rough ... REALLY rough. It's now the 2nd best woodie in the park (IMO). Sad too. The part they recently re-tracked was actually the roughest part. And for some reason the AC in the pre-show area wasn't turned on so they were holding everybody outside under the shaded canopies and then letting you in all the way up to the station.

 

Better than nothing ...

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Rode Apocalypse, that thing is rough ... REALLY rough. It's now the 2nd best woodie in the park (IMO).

Agree. Apocalypse has gotten really rough and Colossus has somehow gotten smoother. (Not smooth, but smoothER.) Ive really enjoyed my last few Colossus rides and cannot say the same for Apocalypse.

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I don't think SFMM is going to get to 20 coasters for at least a few more years. They'll have 19, but if Iron Colossus is coming soon, that would be a major investment, but it would keep them at 19 coasters, unless they leave one side as wood? Or maybe they could make both sides each a different coaster, but have them racing? Honestly, I would expect they add another small kiddie coaster the year they do Iron Colossus, that way they can advertise it as the big 20th coaster. But I would love to see them not get their 20th until 2018 and have it be a terrain giga starting from where Deja Vu used to be and moving up to the mountain. That would be awesome, but that would be a serious investment, but it would be so worth it!

 

Haha. This could not possibly some up how I feel any better. A 2000m long Giga with raging airtime would be an awesome investment. I guess the number of 20th coaster could also be symbolic in a 2000m long coaster!

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I don't think SFMM is going to get to 20 coasters for at least a few more years. They'll have 19, but if Iron Colossus is coming soon, that would be a major investment, but it would keep them at 19 coasters, unless they leave one side as wood? Or maybe they could make both sides each a different coaster, but have them racing? Honestly, I would expect they add another small kiddie coaster the year they do Iron Colossus, that way they can advertise it as the big 20th coaster. But I would love to see them not get their 20th until 2018 and have it be a terrain giga starting from where Deja Vu used to be and moving up to the mountain. That would be awesome, but that would be a serious investment, but it would be so worth it!

 

Haha. This could not possibly some up how I feel any better. A 2000m long Giga with raging airtime would be an awesome investment. I guess the number of 20th coaster could also be symbolic in a 2000m long coaster!

 

Unfortunately, this is the land of No Metric System, so the symbolism would probably be a 2,000 foot long coaster, not 2km. Another Yolocoaster, not a Voyage.

 

(It is actually illegal to post metric measurements on US highways, thanks to a law signed in 1995 - we cannot even have signs in both US and Metric, which would be needed to help with the transition.)

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If there is one take-away from my visit this weekend is that Six Flags Magic Mountain has no clue what the park is or who it's demographics are. Neal told us at the lunch "We have identified ourselves at the 'thrill capital of the world'" and if that's the case, why are the building a FOURTH kiddie coaster next year? Clearly they aren't about "families" anymore as they took out a family show venue to put in tables in front of Full Throttle. I get the feeling that they are just trying completely random things with little to no real thought put into any of them and see what "sticks."

 

What makes no sense is that they seemed a bit annoyed by our "YOLO" shirts, yet I walked into the Full Throttle gift shop and took pictures of Full Throttle merchandise with YOLO printed right on it. If you're going after a "YOLO" crowd, they should appreciate the fact that we are embracing it, even if we're poking fun at it. I mean, I watched some of their night time atmosphere and they kept playing things like the Harlem Shake, mentioning things like twerking, and going Gangnam style. Seriously, how do you NOT poke fun at that??!?

 

And you know, it's "ok" to make a bit of fun at something and even poke fun at yourselves. I wish the guys at SFMM would take a nod from Jeff Tucker at Knott's and realize that sometimes parks do things that deserve being made fun of and it's "ok" to call yourselves out on it. How many Windseeker jokes did we make at Knott's and the park management were right there laughing with us?

 

The whole "YOLO" attitude around Full Throttle with the dancers and the band didn't really seem to be resonating with anyone. And I'm not so sure what is so YOLO about doing "Minute to win it" style contests with props that didn't even seem to work. Every time we walked past the live band at night, there was like 5 people dancing and a huge crowd going "WTF is this???" Maybe they saw ElecTRONica at DCA and thought that was "YOLO?" I dunno....

 

I liked Full Throttle. Thought it was actually a pretty "fun" ride. But the area around it and the "theme" they chose for it... I'm sorry, it was embarrassing. How did a ride like Lex Luthor actually get a nice looking queue, station, and some attention to detail, but Full Throttle got some temporary looking tarps and a giant TV. There wasn't even any music playing in the station to give it some atmosphere.

 

I just wish the park would figure out what they are an who their audience really is.

 

YOLO!!!!

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If there is one take-away from my visit this weekend is that Six Flags Magic Mountain has no clue what the park is or who it's demographics are.

 

I agree, I've kinda just given up on trying to understand what they're doing, because like you said, they don't even know. SFMM has become such a weird place to me, lifeless and bizarre. I guess they still have a couple decent coasters and everything, but any possible charm they ever had is gone. It just makes me happy to see Knott's in such good shape nowadays. (Although I feel they're still missing one thing...) It's truly remarkable to see how fast a good (or bad) management team will influence a theme park, as seen in both KBF and SFMM recently.

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Totally agreed with your comments Robb. The kiddie coaster makes absolutely no sense to me. They have 3 now and none of them ever have a line, even on the busiest of days. I would have been less surprised if they had said they were removing Bugs Bunny World and putting in another coaster. We actually walked through BBW a bit on Saturday and the area is totally void of any personality ... or people.

 

I'm still hoping for some improvements to the Full Throttle area once the offseason comes (after Fright Fest) but I'm not holding my breath.

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I think it is pretty obvious the kiddie coaster is just a cheap way to add another coaster to their count, so they can further play that angle out. "Most coasters in the world...but only about half of them are actually thrilling."

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"Most coasters in the world...but only about half of them are actually thrilling."

 

Or running. Still annoyed by my horrible visit in April when X2, Tatsu, Colossus, Gold Rusher, and Canyon Blaster were never running. And of course no Lex Luthor or Sky Tower either.

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Oh, and I was absolutely stunned to find out the SFMM museum in the Sky Tower is completely gone. Just another example of why I feel that park has no clue at all what direction they want to go in.

 

That's too bad. They used to have some interesting stuff in there.

 

Knott's, on the other hand, has a keen interest in their own park history. Even Cedar Point has a museum.

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Totally agreed with your comments Robb. The kiddie coaster makes absolutely no sense to me. They have 3 now and none of them ever have a line, even on the busiest of days. I would have been less surprised if they had said they were removing Bugs Bunny World and putting in another coaster. We actually walked through BBW a bit on Saturday and the area is totally void of any personality ... or people.

 

I'm still hoping for some improvements to the YOLOcoaster area once the offseason comes (after Fright Fest) but I'm not holding my breath.

 

Not entirely true, In the peak summer season both Canyon Blaster and Road Runner Express have lines and sometimes quite lengthy ones. The only kiddie coaster that doesn't get much traffic is Magic Flyer. However, I do agree that BBW does NOT need another coaster. As for Saturday, it was a really slow day at the park. The park has now gone into off season operations and the crowds have exponentially decreased which explains the lack of people in BBW. Although, the personality of the area has reduced over the years as the paint has become saturated and worn off and the lack of shows in the Carrot Club Theater leave guests with a more lifeless experience in BBW.

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Totally agreed with your comments Robb. The kiddie coaster makes absolutely no sense to me. They have 3 now and none of them ever have a line, even on the busiest of days. I would have been less surprised if they had said they were removing Bugs Bunny World and putting in another coaster. We actually walked through BBW a bit on Saturday and the area is totally void of any personality ... or people.

 

I'm still hoping for some improvements to the YOLOcoaster area once the offseason comes (after Fright Fest) but I'm not holding my breath.

 

Not entirely true, In the peak summer season both Canyon Blaster and Road Runner Express have lines.

So what you're saying is that you have to go on the top busiest days of the year for those rides to have any sort of lines?

 

That just further shows how the park doesn't cater to families.

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Totally agreed with your comments Robb. The kiddie coaster makes absolutely no sense to me. They have 3 now and none of them ever have a line, even on the busiest of days. I would have been less surprised if they had said they were removing Bugs Bunny World and putting in another coaster. We actually walked through BBW a bit on Saturday and the area is totally void of any personality ... or people.

 

I'm still hoping for some improvements to the YOLOcoaster area once the offseason comes (after Fright Fest) but I'm not holding my breath.

 

Not entirely true, In the peak summer season both Canyon Blaster and Road Runner Express have lines.

So what you're saying is that you have to go on the top busiest days of the year for those rides to have any sort of lines?

 

That just further shows how the park doesn't cater to families.

 

And do the lines on those days consist of families or enthusiasts getting credits?

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Rode Apocalypse, that thing is rough ... REALLY rough. It's now the 2nd best woodie in the park (IMO).

Agree. Apocalypse has gotten really rough and Colossus has somehow gotten smoother. (Not smooth, but smoothER.) Ive really enjoyed my last few Colossus rides and cannot say the same for Apocalypse.

100% completely agree. I took my very first ride on it in the early evening before WCB night ERT started, and didn't even care to go back to ride it during ERT. When I was in the queue, I looked closely at the track to see (and hear, it was squeaking in the turns) that there was no grease on it. When it opened as Terminator in 2009, I guessed it would get rough in less than 5 years due to poor maintenance, and I guessed right. It felt like the train was running on octagonal wheels (by 2015 it will feel like hexagonal wheels, and by 2020 square wheels considering how poorly maintained it is as of now), and I got off with a headache and feeling like my spine had been compressed.

 

I'm NEVER riding it again until the highly unlikely event (it's SFMM, what do you expect?) of a major retrack, and expect to only see reports of it getting rough to the point of being unrideable. Really hoping CGA takes care of Gold Striker the way they are taking care of Grizzly now, as I would hate to see it get rough as well (I've got my hopes up since CGA has a proper off-season).

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